Obama a complete douchebag.

[dbackjon]

40% of America would disapprove of Obama no matter what he did. The right-wing has brainwashed the sheeple to blindly hate him.

[Chizzang]

40% of the population hates every president no matter who it is on either side...

[GannonFan]

40% of the population hates every president no matter who it is on either side...

This. There are sheeple in pretty much equal proportions on both sides of the aisle. I think it coincides with the advent of message boards and being able to comment online on newspaper/magazine articles.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

40% of America would disapprove of Obama no matter what he did. The right-wing has brainwashed the sheeple to blindly hate him.

Yeah and 98% of blacks would vote for him based on race. (because they cant be racists)

Like I said earlier if Obama decided to bring back slavery the blacks would be dancing in the streets and hitting the feeder bar a second time.

This mindset needs to be exported out of our country.

[Chizzang]

40% of America would disapprove of Obama no matter what he did. The right-wing has brainwashed the sheeple to blindly hate him.

Yeah and 98% of blacks would vote for him based on race. (because they cant be racists)

Like I said earlier if Obama decided to bring back slavery the blacks would be dancing in the streets and hitting the feeder bar a second time.

This mindset needs to be exported out of our country.

What's actually more sad than your statement... (which is a 1/2 truth at best)
Is that you completely believe it 100%

Agreed - Obama would probably need to turn into something fairly crazy to lose the black vote - but your simple minded over the top exaggeration shows a few key points pretty clearly about YOU

George Bush got the Conservative vote - and he implemented socialist stimulus packages increased the deficit in record fashion and basically acted like a dumbass for 8 years... Yet he still GOT THE VOTE

So your point is fairly obvious to anybody with a pulse and an IQ over 80
and could be said about any group who blindly buys into something

[BDKJMU]

His approval rating is doing pretty well these days. Over double Bush's lowest. Higher than Reagan's at this point.

Yep...real unemployment is over 10%, but Obama's still polling above 50% which is higher than Reagan at same point in his presidency....

Actually, more like 16%


"....While the December drop from 9.4 percent to 9.0 percent might have looked nice on paper, digging through the real numbers shows the actual jobs picture hasn't improved at all.

In fact, the situation is at best stagnating, despite headline numbers that make it appear things are getting better.

At the heart of the unemployment rate deception are the nearly three million Americans counted as "marginally attached" to the labor force. Those folks would take a job if offered, but actually aren't actively looking and thus not counted in the government's official statistics. There are a million more of them than there were in January 2008, thanks to the lousy job market that seems to be improving only at the margins............

................."Considering that there are about 7 million more unemployed now than three years ago, it suggests the pool of available labor could be 15% bigger than the unemployment figures suggest," he concluded.

That puts the headline unemployment rate well north of 10 percent, even as the so-called "real" unemployment number -- which takes into account an even broader swath of the working-age population -- remains above 16 percent but in a modest decline. In fact, Ashworth attributes the drop from the cycle high of 10.1 percent unemployment to the current level "as much due to a contraction in the labor force" as any illusory improvement in the real jobs picture.

"The 836,000 decline in the labor force since (the October 2009 peak) is only slightly smaller than the 930,000 increase in employment," he wrote. "Over the second half of last year, the labor force shrank by more than employment expanded. ...In other words, the drop in the unemployment rate doesn't reflect an improving job market, but rather a decline in the labor force participation rate.""
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11009525 ... en=RSSFeed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Yeah and 98% of blacks would vote for him based on race. (because they cant be racists)

Like I said earlier if Obama decided to bring back slavery the blacks would be dancing in the streets and hitting the feeder bar a second time.

This mindset needs to be exported out of our country.

What's actually more sad than your statement... (which is a 1/2 truth at best)
Is that you completely believe it 100%

Agreed - Obama would probably need to turn into something fairly crazy to lose the black vote - but your simple minded over the top exaggeration shows a few key points pretty clearly about YOU

George Bush got the Conservative vote - and he implemented socialist stimulus packages increased the deficit in record fashion and basically acted like a dumbass for 8 years... Yet he still GOT THE VOTE

So your point is fairly obvious to anybody with a pulse and an IQ over 80
and could be said about any group who blindly buys into something

Its not simple minded its the fact that blacks voted for him because hes black. (98% on them) You cant get within 20% of any of your simple minded scenarios about conservatives or right wing christians.

The black vote for Obama is the single biggest act of racism in the last 150 years.

[BDKJMU]

40% of America would disapprove of Bush no matter what he did. The left-wing has brainwashed the sheeple to blindly hate him.

You were saying.

[eagleskins]

We just had both the dumbest, and worst president in the history of western civilization the last 8 years. And some of you racists voted for him twice.

[SuperHornet]

We just had both the dumbest, and worst president in the history of western civilization the last 8 years. And some of you racists voted for him twice.

Sounds like you subscribe to the U of Delaware theory of racism....

[SeattleGriz]

We just had both the dumbest, and worst president in the history of western civilization the last 8 years. And some of you racists voted for him twice.

Oh Lord here we go. The old moron/genius routine. Bush is so stupid, but yet he was so smart he fooled everyone into the war in Iraq. But yet, Obama can't come up with anything new in regards to the War on Terror or either war.

Either Obama is a complete dolt, or there really was something to the whole Bush stance on terror, if a complete left nut job like Obama signs on for all of Bush's policies.

Bigot.

[houndawg]

We just had both the dumbest, and worst president in the history of western civilization the last 8 years. And some of you racists voted for him twice.

Oh Lord here we go. The old moron/genius routine. Bush is so stupid, but yet he was so smart he fooled everyone into the war in Iraq. But yet, Obama can't come up with anything new in regards to the War on Terror or either war.

Either Obama is a complete dolt, or there really was something to the whole Bush stance on terror, if a complete left nut job like Obama signs on for all of Bush's policies.

Bigot.

Nobody was "fooled" into the War on Iraq, SG. You must have been off the planet if you believe that. The nation was stampeded into a completely unnecessary war by a lying government that had the chutzpah to blather incessantly about mushroom clouds in 45 minutes, and WMD, and what a horrible dictator we installed in Iraq, and the rights of women, of all things, and how we were going to do it alone if old Europe wanted to believe that lying Hans Blix and his inability to find any nukes, and Iraqi oil was going to pay for all of it........

[houndawg]

Things are not improving and will continue to deteriorate. Inflation is now starting and will be a big problem.

Maybe Carter has some of those wip inflation now (WIN) pins in his garage he can loan B.O.

==
43.2 Million on foodstamps, 9 to 10% unemployment and inflation looming...

43.2 Million on food stamps
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-0 ... ports.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

GALLUP: Unemployment at 10.3%... underemployed at 19.7%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125639/Gallu ... force.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Inflation to rear ugly head?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/inflat ... 2011-02-13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's cute, Bongo.

Whip Inflation Now was the Ford Administration, young fellow.

[Chizzang]

Oh Lord here we go. The old moron/genius routine. Bush is so stupid, but yet he was so smart he fooled everyone into the war in Iraq. But yet, Obama can't come up with anything new in regards to the War on Terror or either war.

Either Obama is a complete dolt, or there really was something to the whole Bush stance on terror, if a complete left nut job like Obama signs on for all of Bush's policies.

Bigot.

Nobody was "fooled" into the War on Iraq, SG. You must have been off the planet if you believe that. The nation was stampeded into a completely unnecessary war by a lying government that had the chutzpah to blather incessantly about mushroom clouds in 45 minutes, and WMD, and what a horrible dictator we installed in Iraq, and the rights of women, of all things, and how we were going to do it alone if old Europe wanted to believe that lying Hans Blix and his inability to find any nukes, and Iraqi oil was going to pay for all of it........

There was actually 4 phases of psychology used... you mentioned them It's funny that now so much time later we all know that Hans Blix was right (obviously) and the UN was right - Blix contradicted the Bush claims over and over and over again... and No "stock piles" of Nukes were ever found

Israel was also ignored during the "rush to war"
Israel has arguably the best intelligence available regarding Middle East States
They have a Threat ranking system - it's actually quite simple - and Iraq was ranked a 2 (out of 10) and interestingly enough the United States is Ranked a 3 as a threat to Israel...

Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey all rank above 6 (for example)
Of course why make that public knowledge - that the U.S. is seen as a bigger threat than Iraq in 2003

So the about face was started:
Where we were now going to be fighting for FREEDOM and Democracy

and we all know how that went - congress got bullied and usually fall in line anyway (as long as the "story" is good enough and will help with re-election) when it comes to war because defense contractors have money and money is what it's always about anyway...




Interesting stuff...

[SeattleGriz]

Oh Lord here we go. The old moron/genius routine. Bush is so stupid, but yet he was so smart he fooled everyone into the war in Iraq. But yet, Obama can't come up with anything new in regards to the War on Terror or either war.

Either Obama is a complete dolt, or there really was something to the whole Bush stance on terror, if a complete left nut job like Obama signs on for all of Bush's policies.

Bigot.

Nobody was "fooled" into the War on Iraq, SG. You must have been off the planet if you believe that. The nation was stampeded into a completely unnecessary war by a lying government that had the chutzpah to blather incessantly about mushroom clouds in 45 minutes, and WMD, and what a horrible dictator we installed in Iraq, and the rights of women, of all things, and how we were going to do it alone if old Europe wanted to believe that lying Hans Blix and his inability to find any nukes, and Iraqi oil was going to pay for all of it........

So what of all the Youtube clips with Clinton, Gore, Kerry and the rest of the establishment Dems proclaiming we needed to do something about Iraq? The what, 17 UN resolutions? The newly discovered via Wikileaks yellow cake they took out of Iraq in truckloads. But most importantly, why has Barack Obama actually increased the antiterror policies and changed nothing in the two wars? Must be something, or BO is the idiot because he cannot formulate his own ideas.

Conservative story about Wikileaks and yellowcake:

http://townhall.com/columnists/larryeld ... page/full/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bush, in building the case for war against Iraq, lied to the nation. He falsely claimed that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Africa. Time magazine specifically referred to the yellowcake "lie" in accusing Bush of fabricating the case for war. Therefore, were Iraq to have had yellowcake -- an assertion called a "lie" -- it would have confirmed the presence of WMD, giving credence to Bush's declaration of Iraq as a "grave and gathering threat."

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found: "By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

[Grizalltheway]

Nobody was "fooled" into the War on Iraq, SG. You must have been off the planet if you believe that. The nation was stampeded into a completely unnecessary war by a lying government that had the chutzpah to blather incessantly about mushroom clouds in 45 minutes, and WMD, and what a horrible dictator we installed in Iraq, and the rights of women, of all things, and how we were going to do it alone if old Europe wanted to believe that lying Hans Blix and his inability to find any nukes, and Iraqi oil was going to pay for all of it........

So what of all the Youtube clips with Clinton, Gore, Kerry and the rest of the establishment Dems proclaiming we needed to do something about Iraq? The what, 17 UN resolutions? The newly discovered via Wikileaks yellow cake they took out of Iraq in truckloads. But most importantly, why has Barack Obama actually increased the antiterror policies and changed nothing in the two wars? Must be something, or BO is the idiot because he cannot formulate his own ideas.

Conservative story about Wikileaks and yellowcake:

http://townhall.com/columnists/larryeld ... page/full/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bush, in building the case for war against Iraq, lied to the nation. He falsely claimed that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Africa. Time magazine specifically referred to the yellowcake "lie" in accusing Bush of fabricating the case for war. Therefore, were Iraq to have had yellowcake -- an assertion called a "lie" -- it would have confirmed the presence of WMD, giving credence to Bush's declaration of Iraq as a "grave and gathering threat."

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found: "By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

Changed nothing?

If I'm not mistaken, he set a deadline to get most combat troops out of Iraq, and stuck to it...

[Chizzang]

Nobody was "fooled" into the War on Iraq, SG. You must have been off the planet if you believe that. The nation was stampeded into a completely unnecessary war by a lying government that had the chutzpah to blather incessantly about mushroom clouds in 45 minutes, and WMD, and what a horrible dictator we installed in Iraq, and the rights of women, of all things, and how we were going to do it alone if old Europe wanted to believe that lying Hans Blix and his inability to find any nukes, and Iraqi oil was going to pay for all of it........

So what of all the Youtube clips with Clinton, Gore, Kerry and the rest of the establishment Dems proclaiming we needed to do something about Iraq? The what, 17 UN resolutions? The newly discovered via Wikileaks yellow cake they took out of Iraq in truckloads. But most importantly, why has Barack Obama actually increased the antiterror policies and changed nothing in the two wars? Must be something, or BO is the idiot because he cannot formulate his own ideas.

Conservative story about Wikileaks and yellowcake:

http://townhall.com/columnists/larryeld ... page/full/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bush, in building the case for war against Iraq, lied to the nation. He falsely claimed that Iraq was attempting to purchase yellowcake from Africa. Time magazine specifically referred to the yellowcake "lie" in accusing Bush of fabricating the case for war. Therefore, were Iraq to have had yellowcake -- an assertion called a "lie" -- it would have confirmed the presence of WMD, giving credence to Bush's declaration of Iraq as a "grave and gathering threat."

But ... there ... was ... yellowcake. This brings us back to WikiLeaks.

Wired magazine's contributing editor Noah Shachtman -- a nonresident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution -- researched the 400,000 WikiLeaked documents released in October. Here's what he found: "By late 2003, even the Bush White House's staunchest defenders were starting to give up on the idea that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But WikiLeaks' newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction (emphasis added). ... Chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam's toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict -- and may have brewed up their own deadly agents."

The "chemical Weapons Labs" were garages and basements...
never NOT ONCE were they actually confirmed as State sponsored or actual LABs...

This would be the equivalent of calling 5 guys and a few machine guns a Major Terrorist Organization

This has all been shown (over and over) there has not been any "stock pile" of anything other than AK47's and grenades and RPG's no yellow cake of any (ANY SIGNIFICANCE) has been properly logged by the U.S. Military

And there never will be... thats why we switched tunes in the middle of the song... Freedom and Democracy became the battle cry after the other battle cries proved suspicious (at best)

[SeattleGriz]

Changed nothing?

If I'm not mistaken, he set a deadline to get most combat troops out of Iraq, and stuck to it...

Obama just reiterated what was already in place. He may have changed a few dates and times, but that plan was already set in motion to begin slow troop withdrawal.

[Chizzang]

Changed nothing?

If I'm not mistaken, he set a deadline to get most combat troops out of Iraq, and stuck to it...

Obama just reiterated what was already in place. He may have changed a few dates and times, but that plan was already set in motion to begin slow troop withdrawal.

Sh!t Sandwich...

I'm not sure why this makes any difference... If your handed a sh!t sandwich
Surely you're not suggesting that what Obama does "absolves" the Bush atrocities
Obama will have his HUGE pile of crap for whoever comes next - but - Bush owns Iraq and it's going to be a trillion dollar pile of sh!t pretty much forever... and your kids will be paying for that and so will there kids

[SeattleGriz]

Obama just reiterated what was already in place. He may have changed a few dates and times, but that plan was already set in motion to begin slow troop withdrawal.

Sh!t Sandwich...

I'm not sure why this makes any difference... If your handed a sh!t sandwich
Surely you're not suggesting that what Obama does "absolves" the Bush atrocities
Obama will have his HUGE pile of crap for whoever comes next - but - Bush owns Iraq and it's going to be a trillion dollar pile of sh!t pretty much forever... and your kids will be paying for that and so will there kids

Point noted, and what you say it true, but I was simply responding to GATW's statement that Obama set a deadline. The deadline was already in place.

[Grizalltheway]

Changed nothing?

If I'm not mistaken, he set a deadline to get most combat troops out of Iraq, and stuck to it...

Obama just reiterated what was already in place. He may have changed a few dates and times, but that plan was already set in motion to begin slow troop withdrawal.

So he did the right thing by not changing it (as he did in keeping Gates on as SecDef).

[bulldog10jw]

Sh!t Sandwich...

I'm not sure why this makes any difference... If your handed a sh!t sandwich
Surely you're not suggesting that what Obama does "absolves" the Bush atrocities
Obama will have his HUGE pile of crap for whoever comes next - but - Bush owns Iraq and it's going to be a trillion dollar pile of sh!t pretty much forever... and your kids will be paying for that and so will there kids

You mean dozens of trillions, don't you?

[BlackFalkin]

Fuckin' A, where do I start?

Outside of Jimmy Carter, has there ever been such a trainwreck of a President?

Obama has set back Black relations 25 years by being an incompetent retard.

fuck

Look Ras, when it comes to race relations over the past 40 years....aint nothin changed but the weather.

[Chizzang]

Sh!t Sandwich...

I'm not sure why this makes any difference... If your handed a sh!t sandwich
Surely you're not suggesting that what Obama does "absolves" the Bush atrocities
Obama will have his HUGE pile of crap for whoever comes next - but - Bush owns Iraq and it's going to be a trillion dollar pile of sh!t pretty much forever... and your kids will be paying for that and so will there kids

You mean dozens of trillions, don't you?

I believe I do mean "dozens of Trillions"
It's at $3 Trillion right now with no end in sight

Bush said it would cost $60 billion
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02200.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[CID1990]

Yeah and 98% of blacks would vote for him based on race. (because they cant be racists)

Like I said earlier if Obama decided to bring back slavery the blacks would be dancing in the streets and hitting the feeder bar a second time.

This mindset needs to be exported out of our country.

What's actually more sad than your statement... (which is a 1/2 truth at best)
Is that you completely believe it 100%

Agreed - Obama would probably need to turn into something fairly crazy to lose the black vote - but your simple minded over the top exaggeration shows a few key points pretty clearly about YOU

George Bush got the Conservative vote - and he implemented socialist stimulus packages increased the deficit in record fashion and basically acted like a dumbass for 8 years... Yet he still GOT THE VOTE

So your point is fairly obvious to anybody with a pulse and an IQ over 80
and could be said about any group who blindly buys into something

I think you are right that there are people who will vote their party regardless, but when the alternative to Bush was John Kerry I think that was a big motivator for the fence sitters to hold their nose and push the Bush button.

Personally I went third party and did it again in the last election.