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Re: Wisconsin Teachers need to be fired and replaced

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HI54UNI wrote:There are studies that show good teachers can overcome the poor home life issues (poverty, bad parenting, etc.) that many kids deal with. It's too bad that we have to lean on the schools to do what mom and dad should be doing but a good school with good teachers can help fill that void.
The trick will be finding good teachers to work for minimum wage and no bennies.
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houndawg wrote:The trick will be finding good teachers to work for minimum wage and no bennies.
Or ones that can put up with your hyperbole. :roll:
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:The trick will be finding good teachers to work for minimum wage and no bennies.
Or ones that can put up with your hyperbole. :roll:
They loved my hyperbole and were wowed by my metaphor and simile. :nod:
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89Hen wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Ok. So states like South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas that don't have collective bargaining and have the worst education systems attract the worst teachers... I agree with you.

The teachers are much better in states like Wisconsin with collective bargaining. :nod:
Why did you omit Virginia from your list and why don't you talk about Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada... where they do have collective bargaining?
Because they don't prove his point...duh!
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By contrast, here in Wisconsin, our concerns are based in reality. Wisconsinites are marching because this bill will destroy unions by taking away their right to collectively bargain, which will have adverse effects on teachers, and hundreds of thousands of blue-collar, hard-working Americans across the state. We're also not too thrilled that this bill will give the Republican-controlled government unilateral power to take families off BadgerCare, or about the $117 million in corporate tax breaks pushed through by Scott Walker to gin up the budget crisis in the first place.

While speaking with protesters at the Tea Party counter-rally this past Saturday, I was bombarded with the talking point that teachers making yearly salaries of $75,000 had to tighten their fancy Prada belts if Wisconsin is going to reduce its deficit.

Time for some more facts. The average salary for teachers in Wisconsin is $48,267. The median household income for Wisconsin families, according to the US Census Bureau is $51, 237. If anybody deserves to be adequately compensated, it's teachers, and they are making less than the median household income. These teachers are no more responsible for state's budget problems than our bus drivers. I promise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
By contrast, here in Wisconsin, our concerns are based in reality. Wisconsinites are marching because this bill will destroy unions by taking away their right to collectively bargain, which will have adverse effects on teachers, and hundreds of thousands of blue-collar, hard-working Americans across the state. We're also not too thrilled that this bill will give the Republican-controlled government unilateral power to take families off BadgerCare, or about the $117 million in corporate tax breaks pushed through by Scott Walker to gin up the budget crisis in the first place.

While speaking with protesters at the Tea Party counter-rally this past Saturday, I was bombarded with the talking point that teachers making yearly salaries of $75,000 had to tighten their fancy Prada belts if Wisconsin is going to reduce its deficit.

Time for some more facts. The average salary for teachers in Wisconsin is $48,267. The median household income for Wisconsin families, according to the US Census Bureau is $51, 237. If anybody deserves to be adequately compensated, it's teachers, and they are making less than the median household income. These teachers are no more responsible for state's budget problems than our bus drivers. I promise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
Of course prices will fall since the corporations got another tax break.....
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houndawg wrote:
kalm wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
Of course prices will fall since the corporations got another tax break.....
Oh, so it's just like free trade then. Makes perfect sense. :lol:
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kalm wrote:
By contrast, here in Wisconsin, our concerns are based in reality. Wisconsinites are marching because this bill will destroy unions by taking away their right to collectively bargain, which will have adverse effects on teachers, and hundreds of thousands of blue-collar, hard-working Americans across the state. We're also not too thrilled that this bill will give the Republican-controlled government unilateral power to take families off BadgerCare, or about the $117 million in corporate tax breaks pushed through by Scott Walker to gin up the budget crisis in the first place.

While speaking with protesters at the Tea Party counter-rally this past Saturday, I was bombarded with the talking point that teachers making yearly salaries of $75,000 had to tighten their fancy Prada belts if Wisconsin is going to reduce its deficit.

Time for some more facts. The average salary for teachers in Wisconsin is $48,267. The median household income for Wisconsin families, according to the US Census Bureau is $51, 237. If anybody deserves to be adequately compensated, it's teachers, and they are making less than the median household income. These teachers are no more responsible for state's budget problems than our bus drivers. I promise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
By contrast, here in Wisconsin, our concerns are based in reality. Wisconsinites are marching because this bill will destroy unions by taking away their right to collectively bargain, which will have adverse effects on teachers, and hundreds of thousands of blue-collar, hard-working Americans across the state. We're also not too thrilled that this bill will give the Republican-controlled government unilateral power to take families off BadgerCare, or about the $117 million in corporate tax breaks pushed through by Scott Walker to gin up the budget crisis in the first place.

While speaking with protesters at the Tea Party counter-rally this past Saturday, I was bombarded with the talking point that teachers making yearly salaries of $75,000 had to tighten their fancy Prada belts if Wisconsin is going to reduce its deficit.

Time for some more facts. The average salary for teachers in Wisconsin is $48,267. The median household income for Wisconsin families, according to the US Census Bureau is $51, 237. If anybody deserves to be adequately compensated, it's teachers, and they are making less than the median household income. These teachers are no more responsible for state's budget problems than our bus drivers. I promise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
Median income?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

They are nowhere close to below............if your being honest with your stats....but your not so.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:The trick will be finding good teachers to work for minimum wage and no bennies.
Or ones that can put up with your hyperbole. :roll:
Exactly. Fed minimum wage ($7.25 an hr) is less than 15k a yr on a 40 hr week year round.

They're not working year round, and still avg is close to 4x minimum wage. No one is talking about teachers working for anywhere remotely close to minimum wage. So Houndawg, quit with your hyperbole. :roll:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
kalm wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vin ... 26326.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those greedy SOB's, marching to defend their below median incomes. I'm just glad Walker was there to slash corporate taxes in anticipation of the state's revenue shortfall. :thumb:
Median income?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

They are nowhere close to below............if your being honest with your stats....but your not so.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Do you have something to share that supports your jabbering?
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