Mohammed Salman Hamdani

[YoUDeeMan]

read my other post you ignorant ****.

Your "other post" is just another pile of crap.

Oh wait, someone will get "humiliated" by a meeting asking questions about the radicalization of some Muslims, so don't ask questions.



Jesus Christ, what a bunch of stupid, emotional whack-jobs. "Hey, I've worked with Muslims and they are all nice people. However, they are such nice people that I fear that a bunch of them will be driven to radicalization if they are offended."

[YoUDeeMan]

There are no "non-combatants" in an occupied territory.

So you'd be okay with Palestinians blowing up Israeli settlements in the West Bank?

Prepare to hand in your neo-con card.

I don't give a crap about the Israeli settlements.

Prepare to hand in your intelligence card. It was given to you on false pretenses.

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[CID1990]

I just have to say.... Grizzalltheway's avatar...

Perfect.

I know a couple gals here in Vietnam who look just like that and they cost only 30 bucks for 90 minutes. Just sayin.

[Grizalltheway]

So you'd be okay with Palestinians blowing up Israeli settlements in the West Bank?

Prepare to hand in your neo-con card.

I don't give a crap about the Israeli settlements.

Prepare to hand in your intelligence card. It was given to you on false pretenses.

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Wow. You really knocked that one out of the park.

[Grizalltheway]

I just have to say.... Grizzalltheway's avatar...

Perfect.

I know a couple gals here in Vietnam who look just like that and they cost only 30 bucks for 90 minutes. Just sayin.

I'm on the next flight to to Saigon.

[houndawg]

I just have to say.... Grizzalltheway's avatar...

Perfect.

I know a couple gals here in Vietnam who look just like that and they cost only 30 bucks for 90 minutes. Just sayin.

Great deal!


What do you do for the other 89 minutes?

[houndawg]

Whatever we do we must NOT, for God's eeerrrrrrrrr Allah's sake, offend any Muslims.

Let us praise the peaceful Muslim religion, it's contributions to the world such as jihad, honor killings, the PLO, 9/11, Al Qaeda, Yassar Arafat, the Iranian Mullahs, the Taliban, Qadaffi, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the "blind sheik," Al Aqsa, Khobar Tower Bombings, USS Cole bombing, Jakarta Bombing, etc etc etc etc... I could go on for hours...

... also, let's not forget that practically every armed conflict in the world currently has one single thing in common- Muslims.

King is right to have these hearings. The jihadists have brought their crusade inside our shores and inside the ranks of our military as the grenade incident in Iraq and the Fort Hood shootings demonstrate. The problem needs to be identified and dealt with, the sooner the better.

There's some stuff I like in this post:

1) Islam should be openly and routinely criticized - Globally (period) and who cares who it pisses off
2) What do 85% of all Global violent conflicts have in common - Gee let me guess... Islam (We have a winner Bob)

All religions should be openly and routinely criticized.

[Chizzang]

There's some stuff I like in this post:

1) Islam should be openly and routinely criticized - Globally (period) and who cares who it pisses off
2) What do 85% of all Global violent conflicts have in common - Gee let me guess... Islam (We have a winner Bob)

All religions should be openly and routinely criticized.

Probably...
sure okay anytime religion extends beyond what I think is it's proper station in society I agree

The problem is not everybody agrees with my assessment of "proper station in society"

Islam has extended itself into the realm of political far too deeply
It's taken 50 different revolutions and 800 years to get Christianity the f)ck out of the place Islam is rushing towards and that's not good at all

[YoUDeeMan]

I don't give a crap about the Israeli settlements.

Prepare to hand in your intelligence card. It was given to you on false pretenses.

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Wow. You really knocked that one out of the park.

Always funny to see the wimpy kid that struck out complain about how someone else could have hit their ball harder.

[kalm]

All religions should be openly and routinely criticized.

Probably...
sure okay anytime religion extends beyond what I think is it's proper station in society I agree

The problem is not everybody agrees with my assessment of "proper station in society"

Islam has extended itself into the realm of political far too deeply
It's taken 50 different revolutions and 800 years to get Christianity the f)ck out of the place Islam is rushing towards and that's not good at all

US muslims have been wise not to push their hidden agenda in the wake of 9/11.

[Grizalltheway]

Wow. You really knocked that one out of the park.

Always funny to see the wimpy kid that struck out complain about how someone else could have hit their ball harder.

Cluck. All you did was dodge the question and post a Paul McCartney song. You're not nearly as smart or clever as you'd like to think.

[YoUDeeMan]

That is ONE incident of a muslim US citizen going ape-shit on American soil. Did King want to have hearings on the radicalization of American christians after OKC?

Is A LOT MORE THAN ONE since 9/11 involving radicalized muslim US Citizens & legal permanent residents going or plotting to go apeshit on American soil. Pull your

• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking radioactive-laced "dirty bomb" to use in an attack against Amrica. Padilla was convicted of conspiracy in August, 2007.

• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda after attending jihadist camp in Pakistan. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.

• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with plotting to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.

• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.

• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers

• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.

• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.

• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.

• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.

• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up natural gas refinery in Wyoming, the Transcontinental Pipeline, and a refinery in New Jersey. Reynolds was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

-2006, Syed Haaris Ahmed, a Pakistani, and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, an American of Bangladeshi descent, were charged with conspiring to make videos for extremists. They were convicted.

-2006, Seven men, including five U.S. citizens, were charged with conspiring to blow up Chicago's Sears Tower. Six were convicted.

-2007, Former U.S. sailor Hassan Abujihaad was accused of giving locations of Navy ships to a group that supports terrorists. He got 10 years.

-2007 Six New Jersey men were imprisoned in a conspiracy to attack Fort Dix.

-2007 An American and three others allegedly plotted to bomb fuel lines at JFK. All 3 of 4 have been convicted, 2 received life sentences, one 15 years, 4th awaits trial.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... otter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2008 Christopher Paul, a U.S. citizen, was arrested for conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction against U.S. and European targets. He got 20 years.

-2009 Four men were charged with plotting to bomb Bronx synagogues. All 4 were convicted.

-Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, a Jordanian living in Dallas, was charged in 2009 with trying to car-bomb an office tower. Pled guilty, sentenced to 24 years.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairp ... untain.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Michael Finton of Illinois was busted in 2009 in a courthouse bomb plot inspired by American Taliban John Walker Lindh.

-Bryant Neal Vinas of Long Island was busted in 2009 for allegedly giving Al Qaeda information on the subways and Long Island Rail Road. Plead guilty, case sealed:
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-22/just ... s=PM:CRIME" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brooklyn-born Betim Kaziu was charged in 2009 with trying to join an Al Qaeda affiliate in hope of killing U.S. troops.

-Twelve Americans were indicted in 2009 for allegedly supporting Al Shabaab, a terror group seeking to overthrow the Somali government.

-Colleen LaRose, aka Jihad Jane, 09' was charged with plotting to kill a Swedish cartoonist who had depicted the Prophet Mohammed. Plead guilty 3 days ago and is awaiting sentencing:
http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-05/n ... burg-woman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Sharif Mobley, a 26-year-old New Jersey man, was arrested in March in a roundup of Al Qaeda suspects in Yemen.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335 ... z1GKwR2Oit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/201 ... owing.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2009' Muslim convert Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad opened fire with a rifle in a drive-by shooting on soldiers in front of a United States military recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas, in a jihad attack. He killed Private William Long, and wounded Private Quinton Ezeagwula.After his arrest, Muhammad acknowledged shooting the men. He told police that he had intended to kill as many Army personnel as possible. He had an SKS rifle, a Mossberg International 702 rifle, two handguns, 562 rounds of ammunition, and military books in his car. He said that he had been sent by Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and that "the attack was justified according to Islamic Laws and the Islamic Religion. Jihad—to fight those who wage war on Islam and Muslims.” He had recently returned from 16 months in Yemen, and it was the first of two gunfire attacks in 2009 on US military facilities by Muslims with links to radical clerics in Yemen, who were upset at U.S. military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Muhammad is charged with capital murder, attempted capital murder, and 10 counts of unlawful discharge of a weapon. Muhammad also reportedly faced 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act.[5] Muhammad is pleading guilty, and awaiting a February 2011 jury trial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Littl ... e_shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7730637&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Nov 2009 muslim US Army major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 and wounded 29 at Ft Hood. The ball was dropped one in the name of tolerance despite clear warning signs.

-2010 muslim convert charged with trying to blow up military recruiting center in Maryland:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/201 ... ing-center" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2010, a 30-year-old Pakistani-American was sentenced to life in prison for attempting to detonate a vehicle bomb in Times Square.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2010/times.square.plot/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heck, I might have missed some...

Odd that Grizhalfway hasn't responded.

[Grizalltheway]

Is A LOT MORE THAN ONE since 9/11 involving radicalized muslim US Citizens & legal permanent residents going or plotting to go apeshit on American soil. Pull your

• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking radioactive-laced "dirty bomb" to use in an attack against Amrica. Padilla was convicted of conspiracy in August, 2007.

• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda after attending jihadist camp in Pakistan. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.

• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with plotting to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.

• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.

• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers

• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.

• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.

• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.

• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.

• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up natural gas refinery in Wyoming, the Transcontinental Pipeline, and a refinery in New Jersey. Reynolds was sentenced to 30 years in prison.

-2006, Syed Haaris Ahmed, a Pakistani, and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, an American of Bangladeshi descent, were charged with conspiring to make videos for extremists. They were convicted.

-2006, Seven men, including five U.S. citizens, were charged with conspiring to blow up Chicago's Sears Tower. Six were convicted.

-2007, Former U.S. sailor Hassan Abujihaad was accused of giving locations of Navy ships to a group that supports terrorists. He got 10 years.

-2007 Six New Jersey men were imprisoned in a conspiracy to attack Fort Dix.

-2007 An American and three others allegedly plotted to bomb fuel lines at JFK. All 3 of 4 have been convicted, 2 received life sentences, one 15 years, 4th awaits trial.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... otter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2008 Christopher Paul, a U.S. citizen, was arrested for conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction against U.S. and European targets. He got 20 years.

-2009 Four men were charged with plotting to bomb Bronx synagogues. All 4 were convicted.

-Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, a Jordanian living in Dallas, was charged in 2009 with trying to car-bomb an office tower. Pled guilty, sentenced to 24 years.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairp ... untain.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Michael Finton of Illinois was busted in 2009 in a courthouse bomb plot inspired by American Taliban John Walker Lindh.

-Bryant Neal Vinas of Long Island was busted in 2009 for allegedly giving Al Qaeda information on the subways and Long Island Rail Road. Plead guilty, case sealed:
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-22/just ... s=PM:CRIME" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brooklyn-born Betim Kaziu was charged in 2009 with trying to join an Al Qaeda affiliate in hope of killing U.S. troops.

-Twelve Americans were indicted in 2009 for allegedly supporting Al Shabaab, a terror group seeking to overthrow the Somali government.

-Colleen LaRose, aka Jihad Jane, 09' was charged with plotting to kill a Swedish cartoonist who had depicted the Prophet Mohammed. Plead guilty 3 days ago and is awaiting sentencing:
http://articles.philly.com/2011-03-05/n ... burg-woman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Sharif Mobley, a 26-year-old New Jersey man, was arrested in March in a roundup of Al Qaeda suspects in Yemen.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335 ... z1GKwR2Oit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/201 ... owing.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2009' Muslim convert Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad opened fire with a rifle in a drive-by shooting on soldiers in front of a United States military recruiting office in Little Rock, Arkansas, in a jihad attack. He killed Private William Long, and wounded Private Quinton Ezeagwula.After his arrest, Muhammad acknowledged shooting the men. He told police that he had intended to kill as many Army personnel as possible. He had an SKS rifle, a Mossberg International 702 rifle, two handguns, 562 rounds of ammunition, and military books in his car. He said that he had been sent by Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and that "the attack was justified according to Islamic Laws and the Islamic Religion. Jihad—to fight those who wage war on Islam and Muslims.” He had recently returned from 16 months in Yemen, and it was the first of two gunfire attacks in 2009 on US military facilities by Muslims with links to radical clerics in Yemen, who were upset at U.S. military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Muhammad is charged with capital murder, attempted capital murder, and 10 counts of unlawful discharge of a weapon. Muhammad also reportedly faced 15 counts of engaging in a terrorist act.[5] Muhammad is pleading guilty, and awaiting a February 2011 jury trial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Littl ... e_shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7730637&page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-Nov 2009 muslim US Army major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 and wounded 29 at Ft Hood. The ball was dropped one in the name of tolerance despite clear warning signs.

-2010 muslim convert charged with trying to blow up military recruiting center in Maryland:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/201 ... ing-center" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-2010, a 30-year-old Pakistani-American was sentenced to life in prison for attempting to detonate a vehicle bomb in Times Square.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2010/times.square.plot/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heck, I might have missed some...

Odd that Grizhalfway hasn't responded.

How many of those actually carried out their plans? How many non-Muslims went crazy and shot up malls, churches, schools etc in that time frame? Really, I'd love to see similar numbers from you or BDK.

And, FWIW, I never denied that there are radical elements inside the US. I simply disagreed with the manner in which King went about dealing with it.

[YoUDeeMan]

Cluck. All you did was dodge the question and post a Paul McCartney song. You're not nearly as smart or clever as you'd like to think.

I know that understanding English isn't your specialty, but I did answer your question.

THIS IS YOUR QUESTION: "So you'd be okay with Palestinians blowing up Israeli settlements in the West Bank?"

HERE IS MY ANSWER: "I don't give a crap about the Israeli settlements."

No dodge. You wanted to know if I was "okay" with something...Libs always want everyone to show emotions about everything. I don't care if the Palistinians and Isrealis blow each other up...it's OK either way. Really...doesn't matter at all to me. If you don't like that answer, tough...although it does ruin your "clever " "neo-con" side step.

Hey, if a Palestinian thinks Isreal took their land, then sure, go for it...blow up the invaders. If the Jews say they, as a people, were actually there first, way back at the crossroads of religious stupidity, and that they were forced to flee and now they are coming back home, then yee-ha, let them build their settlements...hell, they can blow each other up forever (and they just might do that) and it would all be "okay" with me.

Then again, anyone with a brain would have figured that out from my first post.

Getting back to Ireland...I don't have any problem with anyone supporting the IRA...something alluded to earlier in this thread. Thus, the link to the song.

See? Not that hard...except for you.

[YoUDeeMan]

How many of those actually carried out their plans? How many non-Muslims went crazy and shot up malls, churches, schools etc in that time frame? Really, I'd love to see similar numbers from you or BDK.

And, FWIW, I never denied that there are radical elements inside the US. I simply disagreed with the manner in which King went about dealing with it.

How would you deal with the threat?

[Grizalltheway]

How many of those actually carried out their plans? How many non-Muslims went crazy and shot up malls, churches, schools etc in that time frame? Really, I'd love to see similar numbers from you or BDK.

And, FWIW, I never denied that there are radical elements inside the US. I simply disagreed with the manner in which King went about dealing with it.

How would you deal with the threat?

The way we're dealing with it now. Not with hysterics and McCarthy-esque bullshit.

[kalm]

I feel much safer knowing Peter King is on the case and holding some hearings.

[YoUDeeMan]

How would you deal with the threat?

The way we're dealing with it now. Not with hysterics and McCarthy-esque bullshit.

Gotcha.

They're, "dealing with it". Let them work. Shhhhh..don't talk about it. Hush, hush, keep it down now.

How's that working in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the rest of the Middle East?

As far as hysterics, what quotes have you heard form the commission that you'd consider hysterical? Any specifics? What have you found offensive? What specific items have you heard that any Muslim has found to be offensive?

[YoUDeeMan]

Here is an American Muslim who gets it at yesterday's hearings. Unfortunately, he and the silent majority of Muslims in the world have been either totally ineffectual or missing in action in reigning in the excesses of political Islam.

http://a12iggymom.wordpress.com/2011/03 ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice post!


Smart dude. Much smarter than Grizhalftruths who says things are already being handled.

[Grizalltheway]

Here is an American Muslim who gets it at yesterday's hearings. Unfortunately, he and the silent majority of Muslims in the world have been either totally ineffectual or missing in action in reigning in the excesses of political Islam.

http://a12iggymom.wordpress.com/2011/03 ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice post!


Smart dude. Much smarter than Grizhalftruths who says things are already being handled.

How many plots have actually come to fruition in the last ten years, dick face?

[Wedgebuster]

As a very, very young boy, I spent 2 years in a Muslim country. My sister was 4 years older and attended grade school there, my brother was 8 years older and he attended Jr. High over there. My dad was an Army Officer, and he was kept busy on military business while my mother dealt with the house servants that we were required to employ, and the heavily armed guards who kept watch at our front gate.

My families take on Muslims;

1) You can not trust them, they do not accept us as their equals, ever.
2) They can respect you, if you hold all the power, but you still can not trust them.
3) The only true power we will ever have on them is force, they respect that, but you still can't trust them.

4) Last but not least, you can not trust them.

[kalm]

As a very, very young boy, I spent 2 years in a Muslim country. My sister was 4 years older and attended grade school there, my brother was 8 years older and he attended Jr. High over there. My dad was an Army Officer, and he was kept busy on military business while my mother dealt with the house servants that we were required to employ, and the heavily armed guards who kept watch at our front gate.

My families take on Muslims;

1) You can not trust them, they do not accept us as their equals, ever.
2) They can respect you, if you hold all the power, but you still can not trust them.
3) The only true power we will ever have on them is force, they respect that, but you still can't trust them.

4) Last but not least, you can not trust them.

What are you trying to get at here?

[LeadBolt]

Nice post!


Smart dude. Much smarter than Grizhalftruths who says things are already being handled.

How many plots have actually come to fruition in the last ten years, dick face?

How many would you recommend as the appropriate number we sit back and allow to happen before we ask questions?

[YoUDeeMan]

How many would you recommend as the appropriate number we sit back and allow to happen before we ask questions?

Whoa, there LeadBolt...Grizsubzero, despite calling himself a Lib, really has a slow, conservative mind...he only deals with what has happened instead of preparing for the future.

Give him a chance to process things. After getting his azz kicked in about the whole Palestine herring, Griznotallthewaythere is still working on the questions below...he didn't have an answer, so he has to do research until he can find a little tiny piece to support his little tiny...idea.

How's that working in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the rest of the Middle East?

As far as hysterics, what quotes have you heard form the commission that you'd consider hysterical? Any specifics? What have you found offensive? What specific items have you heard that any Muslim has found to be offensive?

Hey, Leadbolt, have you ever seen a dog that just can't stop kicking its legs if it gets rubbed in the right place? Some folks are just like that...Grizfraction gets word that there is a hearing about a serious issue, the possibility of more home grown Muslim extremists, and his leg just keeps kicking uncontrollably...except in this case it is his mind. He instantly reacts with jerks and fits even though he really doesn't know what it is that is bothering him.

Give him time to attempt to process the info...it might be all for naught anyway, but I'm sure he'll throw out another spasm soon enough.

[houndawg]

As a very, very young boy, I spent 2 years in a Muslim country. My sister was 4 years older and attended grade school there, my brother was 8 years older and he attended Jr. High over there. My dad was an Army Officer, and he was kept busy on military business while my mother dealt with the house servants that we were required to employ, and the heavily armed guards who kept watch at our front gate.

My families take on Muslims;

1) You can not trust them, they do not accept us as their equals, ever.
2) They can respect you, if you hold all the power, but you still can not trust them.
3) The only true power we will ever have on them is force, they respect that, but you still can't trust them.

4) Last but not least, you can not trust them.

I lived in one for a year when I was 14/15 and had pretty much the opposite experience but I wasn't near a military post and we didn't have servants. Didn't have to go to school so I roamed the countryside unescorted a lot, and never felt threatened. Shopped in the souk alone for several of the moms, and the biggest problem was getting done in time to catch the Land Rover back to camp because of the curiosity and hospitality of the locals. Always had to stop somewhere for the obligatory three cups of mint tea. Berbers are mostly country people, too, and that could make a difference.