Gay man stoned to death by nutjob Christian:

[Skjellyfetti]

A 28-year-old Upper Darby man has been charged with murder after telling police that he stoned a 70-year-old man to death when the man made homosexual advances toward him, authorities say.

John Joe Thomas, 28, of Sunshine Road in Upper Darby, spent almost every day with 70-year-old Murray Seidman at Seidman’s Lansdowne home, police say. Days before Seidman’s body was found on Jan. 12, Thomas allegedly beat Seidman to death with a sock full of rocks.

Thomas told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

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[YoUDeeMan]

Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

C'mon, man...if God sent you a message to stone someone, you'd be looking for a goddamned boulder and a giant sling shot.

[93henfan]

Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

C'mon, man...if God sent you a message to stone someone, you'd be looking for a goddamned boulder and a giant sling shot.

Or a joint!

[Chizzang]

Ah...
That right there is the chewy goodness of the Bible
Love Peace Understanding Empathy and the occasional stoning to death



I think it's long past over due to get some newer books with some new rules

[CID1990]

I think if we could convince guys like that that the Old Testament is actually the jewboy half of the Bible they might eschew it.

[travelinman67]

Ah...
That right there is the chewy goodness of the Bible
Love Peace Understanding Empathy and the occasional stoning to death



I think it's long past over due to get some newer books with some new rules

Youse prophet, Hippie...

[89Hen]

Gay man stoned to death by nutjob

FIFY

[Chizzang]

Gay man stoned to death by nutjob

FIFY

Following instructions to the letter

[mainejeff]

Gay man stoned to death by nutjob

FIFY

Gotta take the bad Christians with the good ones, 89.

[Skjellyfetti]

WHY DIDN'T MODERATE CHRISTIANS STOP THIS ATROCITY?!?!

[kalm]

WHY DIDN'T MODERATE CHRISTIANS STOP THIS ATROCITY?!?!

There's is a religion of kindness and forgiveness.

[andy7171]

You're all a bunch of a-holes. At least he wasn't a Cathoic.

[89Hen]

FIFY

Following instructions to the letter

How's that?

[Skjellyfetti]

"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

[Skjellyfetti]

Following instructions to the letter

How's that?

"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

[JohnStOnge]

I suppose we'll never know but I suspect the guy was a gold digger. I suspect him being beneficiary in the victim's will had more to do with it than him reading the Bible did. It's pretty weird for a 28 year old guy to be spending "almost every day" with a 70 year old guy . If the victim was really a homosexual I suspect the young guy was exploiting the old guy's homosexual attraction to him for financial purposes.

[SeattleGriz]

WHY DIDN'T MODERATE CHRISTIANS STOP THIS ATROCITY?!?!

Bigot.

[CID1990]

I suppose we'll never know but I suspect the guy was a gold digger. I suspect him being beneficiary in the victim's will had more to do with it than him reading the Bible did. It's pretty weird for a 28 year old guy to be spending "almost every day" with a 70 year old guy . If the victim was really a homosexual I suspect the young guy was exploiting the old guy's homosexual attraction to him for financial purposes.

Occam's Razor.

Your explanation is the simplest.

But KYjelly's mileage will invariably vary.

[native]

I suppose we'll never know but I suspect the guy was a gold digger. I suspect him being beneficiary in the victim's will had more to do with it than him reading the Bible did. It's pretty weird for a 28 year old guy to be spending "almost every day" with a 70 year old guy . If the victim was really a homosexual I suspect the young guy was exploiting the old guy's homosexual attraction to him for financial purposes.

Occam's Razor.

Your explanation is the simplest.

But KYjelly's mileage will invariably vary.

[Chizzang]

I suppose we'll never know but I suspect the guy was a gold digger. I suspect him being beneficiary in the victim's will had more to do with it than him reading the Bible did. It's pretty weird for a 28 year old guy to be spending "almost every day" with a 70 year old guy . If the victim was really a homosexual I suspect the young guy was exploiting the old guy's homosexual attraction to him for financial purposes.

This argument only stands if it is applied across the board...
So when an Islamic guy shoots somebody - what excuse would you accept for that crime that follows your logic being used here in this situation..?

We here in America jump right to "Islamic Terrorist" crazy Islamic nut jobs Etc.. (I know I sure think that)

But why don't we consider this a Christian terrorist act
The perpetrator even quotes the Old Testament
If an Islamic guy quotes the Koran prior to a stoning - are we even having this conversation..?



Consider that my friend... Christian Apologists need to man-up and get real

[JohnStOnge]

This argument only stands if it is applied across the board...
So when an Islamic guy shoots somebody - what excuse would you accept for that crime that follows your logic being used here in this situation..?

I'm pretty sure that if everything was the same in this scenario except that the killer was Muslim and cited the Koran for killing the guy I would have the same suspiscion.

The 28 year old guy had somehow managed to become the sole executor of the victim's will and also was a beneficiary in it. He had been spending a bunch of time with the guy. It looks to me like there was a lot more to this story than a guy just deciding to kill somebody because the Bible said they should kill homosexuals.

Now, if you can find a case that's like this in which I had a different outlook when the killer was Muslim then you've got me. But I don't think you're going to find one. This was not a situation in which someone just blew themselves up in the middle of a bunch of people they didn't even know or walked into a train station and started shooting people in uniform.

I really don't think it's the "same thing."

[CID1990]

I suppose we'll never know but I suspect the guy was a gold digger. I suspect him being beneficiary in the victim's will had more to do with it than him reading the Bible did. It's pretty weird for a 28 year old guy to be spending "almost every day" with a 70 year old guy . If the victim was really a homosexual I suspect the young guy was exploiting the old guy's homosexual attraction to him for financial purposes.

This argument only stands if it is applied across the board...
So when an Islamic guy shoots somebody - what excuse would you accept for that crime that follows your logic being used here in this situation..?

We here in America jump right to "Islamic Terrorist" crazy Islamic nut jobs Etc.. (I know I sure think that)

But why don't we consider this a Christian terrorist act
The perpetrator even quotes the Old Testament
If an Islamic guy quotes the Koran prior to a stoning - are we even having this conversation..?



Consider that my friend... Christian Apologists need to man-up and get real

If I were an investigator in this case, I would be looking for a motive other than religion (because the defense will certainly use that as part of their argument for an insanity case).

Money is a very strong motive in murder cases in a country that is run by it.

[Chizzang]

Right...
All I'm saying is - we don't know sh!t about this case other than a few tid-bits and we're ready to excuse the Old Testament stoning as "something else"

We see other crimes we don't know sh!t about...
And if it's got an Islamic guy we've already decided everything we need to know

Psychologically we find what we're already looking for... it's how our brains work
You see it all over this board (over and over again) decision already made based on little evidence - excuses for bad behavior accepted due to alignment of personal preference - lies believed because of predisposition - stories exaggerated to meet expectations already at hand...

Blah blah blah... sorry I'm preaching




never mind

[CID1990]

Right...
All I'm saying is - we don't know sh!t about this case other than a few tid-bits and we're ready to excuse the Old Testament stoning as "something else"

We see other crimes we don't know sh!t about...
And if it's got an Islamic guy we've already decided everything we need to know

Psychologically we find what we're already looking for... it's how our brains work
You see it all over this board (over and over again) decision already made based on little evidence - excuses for bad behavior accepted due to alignment of personal preference - lies believed because of predisposition - stories exaggerated to meet expectations already at hand...

Blah blah blah... sorry I'm preaching




never mind

Oh no, I am absolutely sure that there are nut jobs out there who will hear the Old testament version of God speaking to them in the middle of the night (with a King James dialect, no doubt).

I'm just saying that there is an even bigger smoking gun in this case that involves money. Given that I think greedy bastards WAY outweigh the religious nuts in ANY country, I'd say the smart money is on homeboy knocking off the old fag for his dough.

The "God told me to do it" story is an insanity plea.

[Chizzang]

Right...
All I'm saying is - we don't know sh!t about this case other than a few tid-bits and we're ready to excuse the Old Testament stoning as "something else"

We see other crimes we don't know sh!t about...
And if it's got an Islamic guy we've already decided everything we need to know

Psychologically we find what we're already looking for... it's how our brains work
You see it all over this board (over and over again) decision already made based on little evidence - excuses for bad behavior accepted due to alignment of personal preference - lies believed because of predisposition - stories exaggerated to meet expectations already at hand...

Blah blah blah... sorry I'm preaching




never mind

Oh no, I am absolutely sure that there are nut jobs out there who will hear the Old testament version of God speaking to them in the middle of the night (with a King James dialect, no doubt).

I'm just saying that there is an even bigger smoking gun in this case that involves money. Given that I think greedy bastards WAY outweigh the religious nuts in ANY country, I'd say the smart money is on homeboy knocking off the old fag for his dough.

The "God told me to do it" story is an insanity plea.

Yeah... but that takes a lot of the fun out of the argument