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Wow...you just keep showing your ignorance with each and every post.Skjellyfetti wrote:The War Powers Act defines it for you. Look it up if you're curious.
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Hey, jelly...you still haven't answered why you continue to support Obama sending more troops to Afghanistan. You know, the place where more Americans are gettting killed. I mean, you consider 4,441 in Iraq as too many, but 1,500, (over half of them since Obama's been in office) in Affy is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right.
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To ensure that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda aren't able to return to power/reconstitute themselves in a country where they are given a safe haven. We invaded Afghanistan as a response to 9/11... correctly. We invaded Iraq as a response to 9/11... incorrectly... and took our eyes off the ball we should have been focused on for 7 1/2 years. After 9/11 our focus should have been on Afghanistan and Pakistan. We should not have trusted the Pakistani's to be of any help keeping their border under control. We should have immediately brought the full power of the US military down upon al-Qaeda and the Taliban in the Afghan/Pakistan border.Cluck U wrote:Hey, jelly...you still haven't answered why you continue to support Obama sending more troops to Afghanistan. You know, the place where more Americans are gettting killed. I mean, you consider 4,441 in Iraq as too many, but 1,500, (over half of them since Obama's been in office) in Affy is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right.
Iraq was a terrible decision. Afghanistan is a war that we had to fight and we must win.
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Let's see...was it the Taliban or Al-Qaeda who attacked us on 9/11?Skjellyfetti wrote:To ensure that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda aren't able to return to power/reconstitute themselves in a country where they are given a safe haven. We invaded Afghanistan as a response to 9/11... correctly. We invaded Iraq as a response to 9/11... incorrectly... and took our eyes off the ball we should have been focused on for 7 1/2 years. After 9/11 our focus should have been on Afghanistan and Pakistan. We should not have trusted the Pakistani's to be of any help keeping their border under control. We should have immediately brought the full power of the US military down upon al-Qaeda and the Taliban in the Afghan/Pakistan border.Cluck U wrote:Hey, jelly...you still haven't answered why you continue to support Obama sending more troops to Afghanistan. You know, the place where more Americans are gettting killed. I mean, you consider 4,441 in Iraq as too many, but 1,500, (over half of them since Obama's been in office) in Affy is juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right.
Iraq was a terrible decision. Afghanistan is a war that we had to fight and we must win.
If you are suggesting that we should bomb and put troops in (and keep them there for a decade or so) every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill, then we better get busy.
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Al-Qaeda. But they were harbored and supported by the Taliban.Cluck U wrote:
Let's see...was it the Taliban or Al-Qaeda who attacked us on 9/11?
It's not every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill... it's countries that harbor bad guys that commit massive, wanton acts of violence against us for a decade.Cluck U wrote:If you are suggesting that we should bomb and put troops in (and keep them there for a decade or so) every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill, then we better get busy.![]()
Let me make sure I understand your position. After 9/11... you wanted Bush to do nothing in Afghanistan? You wanted us to just say "Oh geez. We just got fucked. Hope that doesn't happen again.".......?
What would our correct response have been to 9/11 in your opinion?
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A disproportionate response would have been my wish.Skjellyfetti wrote:Al-Qaeda. But they were harbored and supported by the Taliban.Cluck U wrote:
Let's see...was it the Taliban or Al-Qaeda who attacked us on 9/11?
It's not every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill... it's countries that harbor bad guys that commit massive, wanton acts of violence against us for a decade.Cluck U wrote:If you are suggesting that we should bomb and put troops in (and keep them there for a decade or so) every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill, then we better get busy.![]()
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Let me make sure I understand your position. After 9/11... you wanted Bush to do nothing in Afghanistan? You wanted us to just say "Oh geez. We just got fucked. Hope that doesn't happen again.".......?
What would our correct response have been to 9/11 in your opinion?
Level every building, kill every Afghan male between the ages of 15-55. Make them feel such pain that, two generations from now when some Afghan states that "we ought to do something to those imperialist infidel Americans", his countrymen would shout him down in protest considering they never recovered from the last time some Afghan made that ill-advised decision. Guarantee that there is no future, NONE, in deciding to fok with the US or it's citizens in any manner. That would be my wish.
My wish, however, would not be to continue to chase shadows with limited rules of engagement in order to institute "freedom" and "democracy" to a group of people that offer absolutely no redeeming qualities to global society as a whole. We have no problems insuring the extinction of certain animals through irresponsible behavior, but have a soft spot in our heart for a society who still wipe their ass with their left hand in the 21st century. There is not ONE afghan life that is worth saving at the expnse of one American life. Let them wallow in the squalor their society seem to enjoy living in.....
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Appa, my friend. You're a fucking GENIUS.Appaholic wrote:A disproportionate response would have been my wish.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Al-Qaeda. But they were harbored and supported by the Taliban.
It's not every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill... it's countries that harbor bad guys that commit massive, wanton acts of violence against us for a decade.![]()
Let me make sure I understand your position. After 9/11... you wanted Bush to do nothing in Afghanistan? You wanted us to just say "Oh geez. We just got fucked. Hope that doesn't happen again.".......?
What would our correct response have been to 9/11 in your opinion?
Level every building, kill every Afghan male between the ages of 15-55. Make them feel such pain that, two generations from now when some Afghan states that "we ought to do something to those imperialist infidel Americans", his countrymen would shout him down in protest considering they never recovered from the last time some Afghan made that ill-advised decision. Guarantee that there is no future, NONE, in deciding to fok with the US or it's citizens in any manner. That would be my wish.
My wish, however, would not be to continue to chase shadows with limited rules of engagement in order to institute "freedom" and "democracy" to a group of people that offer absolutely no redeeming qualities to global society as a whole. We have no problems insuring the extinction of certain animals through irresponsible behavior, but have a soft spot in our heart for a society who still wipe their ass with their left hand in the 21st century. There is not ONE afghan life that is worth saving at the expnse of one American life. Let them wallow in the squalor their society seem to enjoy living in.....
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Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.ASUG8 wrote:Dang Appa - did ya have some urine in your Wheaties this AM?
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Appaholic for president 2012.Appaholic wrote:Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.ASUG8 wrote:Dang Appa - did ya have some urine in your Wheaties this AM?
Can I be your SecDef? I will DEFINITELY put that plan into action...
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Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.![]()
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Sure....but we bettter get UN approval before we act...AZGrizFan wrote:Appaholic for president 2012.Appaholic wrote:
Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.![]()
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That's why you can't be my Sec of Int....that's reserved for Houndawg...AZGrizFan wrote:BTW, I feel the same about wolves as Appa does about Afghanites.grizzaholic wrote:![]()
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I'll call up UN Secretary General Sun Yung Moon for his approval RIGHT after I've entered the launch codes for 7-10 trident nuclear missles and hit "send".Appaholic wrote:Sure....but we bettter get UN approval before we act...AZGrizFan wrote:
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I kinda agree with you, but what percentage of the Afghan people had any say in what the Taliban government did? In any event, with you as our leader, we might want march up that hill and dim the beacon light.Appaholic wrote:Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.ASUG8 wrote:Dang Appa - did ya have some urine in your Wheaties this AM?
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The same percentage that allowed the Taliban to control their government and speak for their citizens. We bombed the german & japanese citizens to break the will and win WW2 with no regard to how it played out in the end because we, as Americans, believed that, no matter how low we might have needed to sink to win the battle, it still wouldn't be as low as the gutter that our enemy lived in and would drag us into if we didn't defeat them. But here we are 10 yrs later, building schools, financing corrupt governments, and getting our kids killed with no endgame in sight...at least not a coherent one.kalm wrote:I kinda agree with you, but what percentage of the Afghan people had any say in what the Taliban government did? In any event, with you as our leader, we might want march up that hill and dim the beacon light.Appaholic wrote:
Nope, just tired of this idea that permeates in our electorate like we owe the Afghan people soemthing. Our primary, actually ONLY, concern with regard to this country should be to not have another terrorist strike orignate from this area. Whether the locals are safe, free, or part of a democratic process is ancillary. If a responsible democratic government happens to result from our extermination of terrorist groups or their supporters, so be it. If not, who cares...the day the afghans gave tacit approval to lauch the 9/11 attacks by allowing Al Quaeda safe harbor to train, the afghan people via their governments irresponsible decision forfeited their right to have any say over their future destiny. Might makes right.
And the Taliban leader (Omar) and AlQueda leader (bin Laden) are still free while we borrow money to try to win friends in a region of the world that still bases their governmental decisions on perceived slights older than the USA itself. And whose society think nothing of executing anyone who even attempts to engage in a rational debate regarding their religious philosophy. Fok 'em and feed 'em fish. If they so desperately want to continue to live in day-to-day filth and misery that their existence is based upon, then we ought to give them all the misery they fokking seem to crave and relish in.....
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You are an idiot. Sending in more troops is your fantastic idea of...well, I'm not sure. You were one of the idiots saying that having our troops in Iraq would result in Muslims hating America...more terrorists coming out of the woodwork. Yet putting more troops in Affy is going to do...what? Let's ask the Russians.Skjellyfetti wrote:Al-Qaeda. But they were harbored and supported by the Taliban.Cluck U wrote:
Let's see...was it the Taliban or Al-Qaeda who attacked us on 9/11?
It's not every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill... it's countries that harbor bad guys that commit massive, wanton acts of violence against us for a decade.Cluck U wrote:If you are suggesting that we should bomb and put troops in (and keep them there for a decade or so) every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill, then we better get busy.![]()
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Let me make sure I understand your position. After 9/11... you wanted Bush to do nothing in Afghanistan? You wanted us to just say "Oh geez. We just got fucked. Hope that doesn't happen again.".......?
What would our correct response have been to 9/11 in your opinion?
Hint: it will get more US troops killed.
Thanks Obama...you are killing the poor soldiers from lower and working class families while you pander to your rich oil friends. OBAMA = BUSH...yet jellystupid attacks Bush while sticking to his O-man like a wad of jizz.
Again, explain to me why we are bombing Kadafi's defensive positions in Libya...and toss in another incorrect reference to the War Powers Act.
jelly represents the worst part of America...a spineless wimp that demands action while not actually having any idea about that which he speaks. Obama is doing exactly what Bush did...and you support Obama's actions.
As far as what I would have done about Affy...Appa nailed it. Hit them so hard that everyone feels pain. Send a message to the world...if you harbor people who will do us harm, we will obliterate them and you without mercy. That includes the Saudis and everyone else.
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Cluck U wrote:You are an idiot. Sending in more troops is your fantastic idea of...well, I'm not sure. You were one of the idiots saying that having our troops in Iraq would result in Muslims hating America...more terrorists coming out of the woodwork. Yet putting more troops in Affy is going to do...what? Let's ask the Russians.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Al-Qaeda. But they were harbored and supported by the Taliban.
It's not every country that harbors bad guys who wish us ill... it's countries that harbor bad guys that commit massive, wanton acts of violence against us for a decade.![]()
Let me make sure I understand your position. After 9/11... you wanted Bush to do nothing in Afghanistan? You wanted us to just say "Oh geez. We just got ****. Hope that doesn't happen again.".......?
What would our correct response have been to 9/11 in your opinion?
Hint: it will get more US troops killed.
Thanks Obama...you are killing the poor soldiers from lower and working class families while you pander to your rich oil friends. OBAMA = BUSH...yet jellystupid attacks Bush while sticking to his O-man like a wad of jizz.![]()
Again, explain to me why we are bombing Kadafi's defensive positions in Libya...and toss in another incorrect reference to the War Powers Act.![]()
jelly represents the worst part of America...a spineless wimp that demands action while not actually having any idea about that which he speaks. Obama is doing exactly what Bush did...and you support Obama's actions.
As far as what I would have done about Affy...Appa nailed it. Hit them so hard that everyone feels pain. Send a message to the world...if you harbor people who will do us harm, we will obliterate them and you without mercy. That includes the Saudis and everyone else.
Last year on the other board skelly enthusiastically proposed invading Pakistan, too!
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