Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.
Sorry for saying "shit" three times in one post, but....


I certainly don't think hypocrisy is the exclusive territory of the Republican PartyIvytalk wrote:Saw the segment on GMA this morning about the (mostly) GOP Congresspeople whose families took big farm subsidies. One guy from Bug Shit,Tennessee, refused to answer a simple yes-or-no question about whether he'd continue to accept the money in view of the budget crisis, saying only (with a shit-eating grin on his face) that "the system has to be changed." He might as well turn in his Tea Party membership card.![]()
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Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.![]()
Sorry for saying "shit" three times in one post, but....

Chizzang wrote:I certainly don't think hypocrisy is the exclusive territory of the Republican PartyIvytalk wrote:Saw the segment on GMA this morning about the (mostly) GOP Congresspeople whose families took big farm subsidies. One guy from Bug ****,Tennessee, refused to answer a simple yes-or-no question about whether he'd continue to accept the money in view of the budget crisis, saying only (with a shit-eating grin on his face) that "the system has to be changed." He might as well turn in his Tea Party membership card.![]()
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Have at it, Chizzang! I'm going to lunch.![]()
Sorry for saying "****" three times in one post, but....
It tends to be everybody in politics - and - probably mostly right now The Tea Party - as they would really like everybody to believe that they are "beyond" the fringe of corruption....
But as a whole I'm completely comfortable hating them all (thank you very much)






Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-outIvytalk wrote:I'd consider running for office myself to clean up Dodge, but then I'd end up on Chizzy's everlasting shit list so it's probably not worth it.![]()
Guess I'll rely on Marco Rubio.

Chizzang wrote:Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-outIvytalk wrote:I'd consider running for office myself to clean up Dodge, but then I'd end up on Chizzy's everlasting **** list so it's probably not worth it.![]()
Guess I'll rely on Marco Rubio.so you're already on my short list

I've made my peace with that situation...Ivytalk wrote:Chizzang wrote:
Well you already tossed me under the bus for being an H drop-outso you're already on my short list
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I promise never to do that again. Buds?

Clear you need to listen to Rush and Maddow more to get your intel.Chizzang wrote:It's fascinating really...
The Tea Party is actually turning out to be EXACTLY what all the liberal soccer moms and TV mouth pieces were criticized for saying it was
How interesting
And Obama is turning out just like the douche nozzles here on the right predicted he would
again, interesting...
Neither of these things were obvious to me (until now)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultur ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills date back to the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support. A Canadian report claimed that for every dollar U.S. farmers earn, 62 cents comes from some form of government, with total aid in 2009 from all levels of government adding up to $180.8 billion.[12]
The beneficiaries of the subsidies have changed as agriculture in the United States has changed. In the 1930s, about 25% of the country's population resided on the nation's 6,000,000 small farms. By 1997, 157,000 large farms accounted for 72% of farm sales, with only 2% of the U.S. population residing on farms. In 2006, the top 3 states receiving subsidies were Texas (10.4%), Iowa (9.0%), and Illinois (7.6%). The Total USDA Subsidies from farms in Iowa totaled $1,212,000,000 in 2006.[13] From 2003 to 2005 the top 1% of beneficiaries received 17% of subsidy payments.[13] In Texas, 72% of farms do not receive government subsidies. Of the close to $1.4 Billion in subsidy payments to farms in Texas, roughly 18% of the farms receive a portion of the payments.[14]
"Direct payment subsidies are provided without regard to the economic need of the recipients or the financial condition of the farm economy. Established in 1996, direct payments were originally meant to wean farmers off traditional subsidies that are triggered during periods of low prices for corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton, rice, and other crops." [15]
Top states for direct payments were Iowa ($501 million), Illinois ($454 million), and Texas ($397 million). Direct payments of subsidies are limited to $40,000 per person or $80,000 per couple.[15]

Glad you stuck in that last parenthetical, brutha!kalm wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultur ... ted_States" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The United States currently pays around $20 billion per year to farmers in direct subsidies as "farm income stabilization"[9][10][11] via U.S. farm bills. These bills date back to the economic turmoil of the Great Depression with 1922 Grain Futures Act, the 1929 Agricultural Marketing Act and the 1933 Agricultural Adjustment Act creating a tradition of government support. A Canadian report claimed that for every dollar U.S. farmers earn, 62 cents comes from some form of government, with total aid in 2009 from all levels of government adding up to $180.8 billion.[12]
The beneficiaries of the subsidies have changed as agriculture in the United States has changed. In the 1930s, about 25% of the country's population resided on the nation's 6,000,000 small farms. By 1997, 157,000 large farms accounted for 72% of farm sales, with only 2% of the U.S. population residing on farms. In 2006, the top 3 states receiving subsidies were Texas (10.4%), Iowa (9.0%), and Illinois (7.6%). The Total USDA Subsidies from farms in Iowa totaled $1,212,000,000 in 2006.[13] From 2003 to 2005 the top 1% of beneficiaries received 17% of subsidy payments.[13] In Texas, 72% of farms do not receive government subsidies. Of the close to $1.4 Billion in subsidy payments to farms in Texas, roughly 18% of the farms receive a portion of the payments.[14]
"Direct payment subsidies are provided without regard to the economic need of the recipients or the financial condition of the farm economy. Established in 1996, direct payments were originally meant to wean farmers off traditional subsidies that are triggered during periods of low prices for corn, wheat, soybeans, cotton, rice, and other crops." [15]
Top states for direct payments were Iowa ($501 million), Illinois ($454 million), and Texas ($397 million). Direct payments of subsidies are limited to $40,000 per person or $80,000 per couple.[15]
Scorpio posted a stat in another thread that something like 90% of the ag subsidies in Montana went to districts controlled by a Republican and given the recent tea bagging activity of the Montana legislature I would say that's some pretty damn awesome hypocrisy.![]()
Both sides are on welfare but at least the conks are smart enough to take greater advantage of it while admitting nothing.![]()
Now excuse me while I go start my campaign to draft Ivy for office. Ivy, a conk Kalm can ge behind.![]()
(no homo)