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It's Obama's watch, so he gets the blame. But the fact is, our foreign policy has been consistently inconsistent regardless of who the President is. I seem to recall having this same discussion under Bush. :lol:
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BlueHen86 wrote:It's Obama's watch, so he gets the blame. But the fact is, our foreign policy has been consistently inconsistent regardless of who the President is. I seem to recall having this same discussion under Bush. :lol:
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houndawg wrote:
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Not talking about terrorists, talking about illegals.

Canadas record speaks for itself, you do understand the difference between the way they screen people and the way Mexico doesnt at all.........I hope. :coffee:
You mean the way they don't screen out terrorists?
Alpha thinks sealing off the Mexico border will somehow solve all of America’s problems. The reality is it would just choke off the supply of cheap labor our service based economy depends on. :twocents:
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You mean the way they don't screen out terrorists?
Alpha thinks sealing off the Mexico border will somehow solve all of America’s problems. The reality is it would just choke off the supply of cheap labor our service based economy depends on. :twocents:

So your saying it would create jobs in the US...........I agree.
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SDHornet wrote: Alpha thinks sealing off the Mexico border will somehow solve all of America’s problems. The reality is it would just choke off the supply of cheap labor our service based economy depends on. :twocents:

So your saying it would create jobs in the US...........I agree.
It would. Agribusiness would be up shit creek though. :nod:
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SDHornet wrote:
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So your saying it would create jobs in the US...........I agree.
It would. Agribusiness would be up shit creek though.

Labor costs would be up, profit margins down. You'd see more competition from locally grown produce ( which is already starting to happen here and will continue with rising fuel prices ), and tropical fruits in northern latitudes would be expensive.

If I were king for a day, I'd put Alpha on the border, deport, and put anyone on government assistance to work in the fields for what they're currently paying the illegals.

0% unemployment, cheap fruit, no anchor babies, problem solved. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote:
It would. Agribusiness would be up shit creek though.

Labor costs would be up, profit margins down. You'd see more competition from locally grown produce ( which is already starting to happen here and will continue with rising fuel prices ), and tropical fruits in northern latitudes would be expensive.

If I were king for a day, I'd put Alpha on the border, deport, and put anyone on government assistance to work in the fields for what they're currently paying the illegals.

0% unemployment, cheap fruit, no anchor babies, problem solved. :thumb:
Kalm what kind of asshole are you? You cant expect people getting free money to work for it, thats just cruel and unusual punishment.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110405/ap_ ... st_obama_1
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is renewing his call for Laurent Gbagbo (loh-RAHN' bahg-BOH') to immediately leave power in Ivory Coast to help end violence that has U.N. peacekeepers and French troops enforcing an international mandate to protect civilians.

Obama commented Tuesday as officials said Gbagbo was huddled in a bunker at home, surrounded by troops supporting Alassane Ouattara (ah-lah-SAHN' wah-tah-RAH'), the country's democratically elected and internationally recognized leader.

Gbagbo's refusal to step aside after losing a November election has brought Ivory Coast to the brink of civil war.

Obama says the violence and bloodshed could have been avoided had Gbagbo respected the election outcome. He also called on Gbagbo to order those who are fighting to keep him in power to put down their weapons.
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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio raided four Phoenix-area Pei Wei restaurants, in search of more 100 illegal workers, many of whom were allegedly using stolen Social Security numbers.

The raid turned up dozens of illegal aliens, and as a result, Pei Wei bought a full page ad in the local paper—seeking new, legal hires.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Kalm what kind of asshole are you? You cant expect people getting free money to work for it, thats just cruel and unusual punishment.
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Yeah good luck getting those former welfare recipients to work in the fields picking fruit and veggies from dawn to dusk. :lol:

I am not opposed to sending them there to work, I just don’t see how it would happen. It would take an extreme level of desperation to get those folks out into the fields. Also they would be no where near as efficient as the folk who are currently doing the job which would put the producers at risk of losing product ($$$). I can’t imagine many of them being happy about the possibility of smaller profits.
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SDHornet wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Kalm what kind of asshole are you? You cant expect people getting free money to work for it, thats just cruel and unusual punishment.
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Yeah good luck getting those former welfare recipients to work in the fields picking fruit and veggies from dawn to dusk. :lol:

I am not opposed to sending them there to work, I just don’t see how it would happen. It would take an extreme level of desperation to get those folks out into the fields. Also they would be no where near as efficient as the folk who are currently doing the job which would put the producers at risk of losing product ($$$). I can’t imagine many of them being happy about the possibility of smaller profits.

Hunger and a lack of shelter would seem to me.......to be a great motivator.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Yeah good luck getting those former welfare recipients to work in the fields picking fruit and veggies from dawn to dusk. :lol:

I am not opposed to sending them there to work, I just don’t see how it would happen. It would take an extreme level of desperation to get those folks out into the fields. Also they would be no where near as efficient as the folk who are currently doing the job which would put the producers at risk of losing product ($$$). I can’t imagine many of them being happy about the possibility of smaller profits.

Hunger and a lack of shelter would seem to me.......to be a great motivator.
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kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote:
It would. Agribusiness would be up shit creek though.

Labor costs would be up, profit margins down. You'd see more competition from locally grown produce ( which is already starting to happen here and will continue with rising fuel prices ), and tropical fruits in northern latitudes would be expensive.

If I were king for a day, I'd put Alpha on the border, deport, and put anyone on government assistance to work in the fields for what they're currently paying the illegals.

0% unemployment, cheap fruit, no anchor babies, problem solved. :thumb:
Way to go kalm! :nod: :thumb:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Hunger and a lack of shelter would seem to me.......to be a great motivator.
Ain't gonna happen. :coffee: :coffee:
Exactly. My money is on them resorting to criminal behavior before heading to the fields. Which of course brings us back to the question of who will do this work when the illegal’s are deported?
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SDHornet wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ain't gonna happen. :coffee: :coffee:
Exactly. My money is on them resorting to criminal behavior before heading to the fields. Which of course brings us back to the question of who will do this work when the illegal’s are deported?
If they resort to criminal activities...then lock them up. Then, ship the criminals out to pick the fields to make restitution to society. :nod:

No one thought that a person with a Master's degree would wash dishes for $8/hour. The video above is proving a lot of people wrong. Hundreds of people showed up for a job that was formerly done by illegals. :thumb:

Keep deporting the illegal workers.
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Cluck U wrote:If they resort to criminal activities...then lock them up. Then, ship the criminals out to pick the fields to make restitution to society. :nod:
I have no problem forcing chain gangs to work in the fields, although these people will have no incentive to work hard/efficiently. Also I would think “low risk/non violent” criminals would only be the ones allowed outside of a prison.
No one thought that a person with a Master's degree would wash dishes for $8/hour. The video above is proving a lot of people wrong. Hundreds of people showed up for a job that was formerly done by illegals. :thumb:
So when/if things recover who will replace these over qualified dish washers when they move on to a better paying job? Having these legal people doing these jobs is great and it’s something that should have always been going on, but this still doesn’t answer the question of who will work the fields if all the illegal labor is deported.
Keep deporting the illegal workers.
That’s what ICE is paid to do. Of course placing heavy fines on employers who hire illegal labor would also help solve this problem as well.
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What is receiveing little attention is the ties that Gbagbo has with the evangelical community in the states. Both Gbagbo and his wife are Evangelicals, and have close ties to the "Family" and other far-right Evangelical political groups, who have been pressuring for the US to support Gbagbo
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I thought Ivory Coast was a gentle laundry detergent. Remember the one with the picture of a smiling infant on the box, peeking out from under a clean towel?

What's that you say? That was Ivory Snow?

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