Gov Shutdown

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:11 pm

if there is a shutdown Obama will be for certain not reelected unless Boehner screws up Newt-like

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:13 pm

93henfan wrote:...and there are some indications they want to start tearing away at our benefits, which are not a cadillac plan, as I've mentioned before.

Good first step, IMO. All companies should drop health benis, retirement, and maybe some others.

I have read your other threads about people wanting to fuck over Gov't employees so I won't touch that one.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:15 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:All companies should drop health benis, retirement, and maybe some others.

Why?

citdog · Post by **citdog** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:19 pm

i for one am glad to see the national government shut down. i'd LOVE to see that starry banner ripped down all over the Southern States. it's COVERED in our blood. we should be doing this all over the South!

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Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:19 pm

93henfan wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:All companies should drop health benis, retirement, and maybe some others.
Why?

These are the days of slim profit margins. It's time to rid the P&L of as many line items as possible and shift that money into salaries of the best and brightest. Both sides of the aisle want more money in the hands of the workers. Wouldn't this make sense?

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:20 pm

youngterrier wrote:if there is a shutdown Obama will be for certain not reelected unless Boehner screws up Newt-like

it will have very little effect on the 2012 race one way or the other.

citdog · Post by **citdog** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:22 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
youngterrier wrote:if there is a shutdown Obama will be for certain not reelected unless Boehner screws up Newt-like
it will have very little effect on the 2012 race one way or the other.

believe that all you want lube boy but it will.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:25 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Why?
These are the days of slim profit margins. It's time to rid the P&L of as many line items as possible and shift that money into salaries of the best and brightest. Both sides of the aisle want more money in the hands of the workers. Wouldn't this make sense?

You think that money would go to workers (other than ones with a three-letter job title)? Cough.

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:28 pm

citdog wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
it will have very little effect on the 2012 race one way or the other.

believe that all you want lube boy but it will.

there were two under Clinton... one for ~week and one for ~month and neither effected his reelection chances.

what the economy does will have far, far greater implications for 2012. to say Obama will "for certain" not be reelected because of a government shutdown is just foolish.

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:28 pm

93henfan wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:
These are the days of slim profit margins. It's time to rid the P&L of as many line items as possible and shift that money into salaries of the best and brightest. Both sides of the aisle want more money in the hands of the workers. Wouldn't this make sense?
You think that money would go to workers (other than ones with a three-letter job title)? Cough.

It's a start and Congress can lead by example. They could shed THEIR benefits first. Make most government employees lose theirs and bring that cash down to the bottom line. Thereby reducing the amount we barrow from the Chinese every month.

CID1990 · Post by **CID1990** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:29 pm

We've been having a lot of the same issues, figuring out how to handle the shutdown. State apparently kept some SOPs from the last one, because the chickens running around with their heads cut off stuff has been kept to a minimum.

I'm non-essential since I'm not currently assigned to American citizen services, so I'll be furloughed in place if we shut down.

I have heard rumors that I'll be losing some pay and/or benefits. (I hope it's dental first, I have yet to figure out what my dental plan pays for)

citdog · Post by **citdog** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:30 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
citdog wrote:

believe that all you want lube boy but it will.
there were two under Clinton... one for ~week and one for ~month and neither effected his reelection chances.

what the economy does will have far, far greater implications for 2012. to say Obama will "for certain" not be reelected because of a government shutdown is just foolish.

he will not be reelected because darkys can't work for 8 years straight. everybody knows that.

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:30 pm

CID1990 wrote:I have heard rumors that I'll be losing some pay and/or benefits. (I hope it's dental first, I have yet to figure out what my dental plan pays for)

Dude, our dental plans are worthless. Best to just pay out of pocket.

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:33 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:to say Obama will "for certain" not be reelected because of a government shutdown is just foolish.

True, but to say Obama should not be reelected because he is a fool is the truth. What's worse is that he may be reelected because the foolish are allowed to vote is also true. Time to impose a voter test. (Don't bring Jim Crow into this)

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:34 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:What's worse is that he may be reelected because the foolish are allowed to vote is also true.

Or because Republicans are very likely to nominate a bigger fool.

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:38 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:What's worse is that he may be reelected because the foolish are allowed to vote is also true.
Or because Republicans are very likely to nominate a bigger fool.

Given the Donk offerings the last three cycles, I doubt the Conks are your worst enemy.

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:40 pm

I never thought I'd ever say this, but I wish Hillary won the Donk nomination.

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:42 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Or because Republicans are very likely to nominate a bigger fool.
Given the Donk offerings the last three cycles, I doubt the Conks are your worst enemy.

Obama has actually won a national election... and did so by a huge margin. The Republican field is full of losers, has beens, talk show hosts, etc.

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:44 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
youngterrier wrote:if there is a shutdown Obama will be for certain not reelected unless Boehner screws up Newt-like
it will have very little effect on the 2012 race one way or the other.

niether will the stimulus or Obamacare

Post by **93henfan** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:45 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:I wish Hillary won the Donk nomination.

Can I have your permission to put that in my signature block?

citdog · Post by **citdog** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:47 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote: Given the Donk offerings the last three cycles, I doubt the Conks are your worst enemy.
Obama has actually won a national election... and did so by a huge margin. The Republican field is full of losers, has beens, talk show hosts, etc.

barry will not win a single Southern State. he has no chance at reelection.

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:48 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote: Given the Donk offerings the last three cycles, I doubt the Conks are your worst enemy.
Obama has actually won a national election... and did so by a huge margin. The Republican field is full of losers, has beens, talk show hosts, etc.

The shine has rubbed off that button for all but you. You spend so much time with your head in a hole you haven't noticed. He's an empty suit.

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:48 pm

Unless the economy greatly improves I doubt he will be reelected, unless Sarah Palin or some other crazy whacko gets the nomination

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:50 pm

bobbythekidd wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Obama has actually won a national election... and did so by a huge margin. The Republican field is full of losers, has beens, talk show hosts, etc.
The shine has rubbed off that button for all but you. You spend so much time with your head in a hole you haven't noticed. He's an empty suit.

he's disappointed everyone, even his far left base. Granted, They WILL vote for him come election day, but I don't think the "independent" voters will do the same

Post by **bobbythekidd** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:52 pm

93henfan wrote:
bobbythekidd wrote:I wish Hillary won the Donk nomination.
Can I have your permission to put that in my signature block?

Even out of context, I still wish it were true. Hillary would have been beatable or she would have been better than what we have.

The dude won a popularity contest. He was really popular at the time.

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