FCS Cupcake Feast

[grizzaholic]

Im sorry, but by not listing them on the schedule as exhibition games there is an element of deception. The games should state on the schedule they are exhibitions. Back east and down south and even around here, not everybody knows who these schools are that are being scheduled so they might take it for granted that the defending National Champions or another Big Sky team is playing a Division 1 game and they shouldn't be deceived. They should be informed.

Its done in Basketball. Of course if you have no stomach to be accountable on the exhibitions games thats another story.

Ah, fuck it. I tried to show where we agree and be agreeable with you on matters but you want to be a dick anyway so shame on me I guess.

I couldn't give a fuck what you call them. You seem to think that trivialities matter so term them however you'd like.

You lost to a team that had an exhibition game last year and you did not compete against them with any more integrity than the exhibition team did. In fact, you competed less valiantly.
Stomach that shit.

But the REFS.....

[JBB]

You didnt agree. I said the games should be listed as exhibitions. You certainly dont feel that way now do you? People arent as familiar with the lower divisions as the Big Sky Schools and their fans. When I see some of those teams I have no idea what kind of game it is. Im not alone. They are exhibition games and should be listed as such and should not be included in the won loss record. What part of they dont count dont you understand?

[grizzaholic]

You didnt agree. I said the games should be listed as exhibitions. You certainly dont feel that way now do you? People arent as familiar with the lower divisions as the Big Sky Schools and their fans. When I see some of those teams I have no idea what kind of game it is. Im not alone. They are exhibition games and should be listed as such and should not be included in the won loss record. What part of they dont count dont you understand?

How many D2/NAIA games does NDSU have this year?

[JBB]

If our schedule listed those games as exhibition you would know wouldnt you? But that count is zero. I dont think The BISON have played a lower division school since we left D2 unless it was first year of the transition.

[grizzaholic]

If our schedule listed those games as exhibition you would know wouldnt you? But that count is zero. I dont think The BISON have played a lower division school since we left D2 unless it was first year of the transition.

Really. Hummmm.....

[Grizalltheway]

You didnt agree. I said the games should be listed as exhibitions. You certainly dont feel that way now do you? People arent as familiar with the lower divisions as the Big Sky Schools and their fans. When I see some of those teams I have no idea what kind of game it is. Im not alone. They are exhibition games and should be listed as such and should not be included in the won loss record. What part of they dont count dont you understand?

Then do some research, you dumb, lazy fuck.

[grizzaholic]

If our schedule listed those games as exhibition you would know wouldnt you? But that count is zero. I dont think The BISON have played a lower division school since we left D2 unless it was first year of the transition.

Really. Hummmm.....

Want to recant that statement?

[JBB]

What Im seeing is a conference that wants to pad its won lost record with lower division teams and parade the exibition wins as legitimate. Fact is they dont count, they should be asterisked as exhibition and should not be included in the won loss record. They should be listed just as they are in Basketball.

The transition is designed to give schools time to separate from their old opponents and work into the schedules of the schools in the new division. Only a school with a weak program would over do this but some schools do. I dont really have a problem playing an exhibition game or two in transition but those games should still be listed as such and shouldn't show up in the won lost record.

Ps. we have maintained traditional rivalries with several lower division schools in basketball during regular season. The focus of this conversation is football.

[grizzaholic]

What Im seeing is a conference that wants to pad its won lost record with lower division teams and parade the exibition wins as legitimate. Fact is they dont count, they should be asterisked as exhibition and should not be included in the won loss record. They should be listed just as they are in Basketball.

The transition is designed to give schools time to separate from their old opponents and work into the schedules of the schools in the new division. Only a school with a weak program would over do this but some schools do. I dont really have a problem playing an exhibition game or two in transition but those games should still be listed as such and shouldn't show up in the won lost record.

Ps. we have maintained traditional rivalries with several lower division schools in basketball during regular season. The focus of this conversation is football.

NO shit sherlock. That is what I am asking.

[JBB]

Some of those games count toward the necessary regular season wins for the NCAA tournament. They count!

The football games are non counters. They should be listed as exhibition and not included in the won loss record. They dont count.

[JBB]

Those non counter football games should accounted for like this:

Wed, Nov 03 Minnesota-Crookston (Exb.) - Fargo, N.D. 7 p.m. 101 - 45 (W)
STATS
Sat, Nov 06 Concordia Moorhead (Exb.) - Fargo, N.D. 7 p.m. 84 - 70 (W)
STATS

Those are the non counters on NDSUs schedule last year.

[grizzaholic]

Those games count toward the necessary wins for the NCAA tournament.

The football games are non counters. They should be listed as exhibition and not included in the won loss record. They dont count.

And you continue to dodge the question. Nice. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything else from you. GO back to thinking that NDSU will be winning the conference and the Chipper next year when, in fact, they will be lucky to be thought of a last team out of the playoffs this year.

[JBB]

The question is how to account for games that are non counters. Games that count as recognized wins dont need any asterisk or notation. Non counters like the lower division football games should be notated as non counters and should not be included in the won lost record as are exhibition(non counter) basketball games.

UAH even admits they dont count. Games that count should be included no matter what the sport, dont you think?

[grizzaholic]

Those non counter football games should accounted for like this:

Wed, Nov 03 Minnesota-Crookston (Exb.) - Fargo, N.D. 7 p.m. 101 - 45 (W)
STATS
Sat, Nov 06 Concordia Moorhead (Exb.) - Fargo, N.D. 7 p.m. 84 - 70 (W)
STATS

Those are the non counters on NDSUs schedule last year.

SInce you obviously don't want to talk about NDSU's D2/NAIA games.


How about this question. Do you think that a team should be penalized if they lose an "exb" game? Say you schedule Chadron State and they kick your ass...you don't think that it should reflect poorly on you come selection time?

[JBB]

What sport are you talking about? If a game counts it counts. If it doesnt it doesnt count. Lower division football games dont count, should be noted as exhibition and should not be included in the won loss record.

[grizzaholic]

What sport are you talking about? If a game counts it counts. If it doesnt it doesnt count. Lower division football games dont count, should be noted as exhibition an should not be included in the won loss record.

Oh MY FUCKING GOD. THIS IS THE FUCKING FCS FORUM. What fucking sport do you think I am talking about?

So, say the Griz could schedule a DIII and an NAIA team for home games and lose both of them and they shouldn't count against them for TOP 25 rankings and selection for the playoffs?


You be smoking PCP and Heroin.

[JBB]

They dont count. They shouldnt be included in the won loss, but if they do lose those games they wont have much success in any of the others would be my guess. Montana didnt have the necessary wins last season because 1 win didnt count. That game shouldnt have even been included in the won loss and should have been notated as an exhibition. It didnt count.

[grizzaholic]

They dont count. They shouldnt be included in the won loss, but if they do lose those games they wont have much success in any of the others would be my guess. Montana didnt have the necessary wins last season because 1 win didnt count. That game shouldnt have even been included in the won loss and should have been notated as an exhibition. It didnt count.

So if they lose those two games and are on the bubble for getting in....do you take into account that they lost those two games?

or...

What about if they win all of the other games and are vying for a #1 seed...do you give it to them even though they lost to a DIII and a NAIA team?

[JBB]

Im confused about what sport you are talking about because NDSU doesnt play NAIA or D2 in football. We dont play exhibition football.

[grizzaholic]

Im confused about what sport you are talking about because NDSU doesnt play NAIA or D2 in football. We dont play exhibition football.

I am done here. It is posters like you that give teams really bad names.


Keep up these super entertaining threads for all of us to read.

[JBB]

They dont count. If they can get the necessary wins from the remaining games they would be eligible. But SoS is considered. Thats why a win over a Charter Memember Big 12 team goes a long way. It trumps a win over an FCS and a D2 win doesnt count.

[JBB]

Games that dont count shouldnt be counted. They should be noted as non counter exhibition and not included in the record.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

What Im seeing is a conference that wants to pad its won lost record with lower division teams and parade the exibition wins as legitimate. Fact is they dont count, they should be asterisked as exhibition and should not be included in the won loss record. They should be listed just as they are in Basketball.

The transition is designed to give schools time to separate from their old opponents and work into the schedules of the schools in the new division. Only a school with a weak program would over do this but some schools do. I dont really have a problem playing an exhibition game or two in transition but those games should still be listed as such and shouldn't show up in the won lost record.

Ps. we have maintained traditional rivalries with several lower division schools in basketball during regular season. The focus of this conversation is football.

The games don't count for playoff eligibility retard so I don't know what your padding. As I said the exhibition team on EWU's schedule last year played them tougher than NDSU.

I see why you are disgruntled about looking around at records though.

Exhibition games=Championships...take a look around and see for yourself. It's good that you could play a couple of BSC teams and even get by one this year while falling to the other but you at least got to see two of the four NC's that reside in the BSC. The BSC is packed with teams that have done something other than talk about their schedule.

[JBB]

You are a freakin idiot of the largest magnitude. Did you fall a lot when you were young? Your done because you dont make any sense. Cut your losses short.

[JBB]

You freakin foolish dog pile. They dont count.