FCS Cupcake Feast

[JBB]

The BCS is full of teams that pad their schedules with exhibition games. It didnt work for Montana this year. NDSU has beaten Montana in several National Championship games you freakin pile of dog dung.

The BISON also kicked their ass at the Washington Grizz Stadium. I think that point should be obvious to you, The BISON are good. They play anybody anytime. They win and win a lot. Montana fans should know that better than any others.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You freakin foolish dog pile. They dont count.

Everybody know that. Thanks for the update though.

How many NC's you got on your schedule this year? It's all D1 so it must be a lot.

dog pile?

alright, fair enough.

[DJH]

If our schedule listed those games as exhibition you would know wouldnt you? But that count is zero. I dont think The BISON have played a lower division school since we left D2 unless it was first year of the transition.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=262432449

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252442449

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=242552449

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=242622449

[JBB]

Wonderful.

All of NDSUs games are counters. We dont need no stinkin asterisk.

[grizzaholic]

:TAG: Ursus


Your turn to try and get a straight answer out of this guy.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The BCS is full of teams that pad their schedules with exhibition games. It didnt work for Montana this year. NDSU has beaten Montana in several National Championship games you freakin pile of dog dung.

The BISON also kicked their ass at the Washington Grizz Stadium. I think that point should be obvious to you, The BISON are good. They play anybody anytime. They win and win a lot. Montana fans should know that better than any others.

It has worked for MT, nothing has worked for NDSU however.

Now you are going to back to D2 glory whilst belittling the D2's?

Awesome.

Playing anybody anywhere and losing the majority of those contest isn't overly impressive. Thanks for the word up though.

[JBB]

DJH checks in.

What is the most current game on that list?

[grizzaholic]

And JBB, try using the quote feature. It helps.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Wonderful.

All of NDSUs games are counters. We dont need no stinkin asterisk.

Yes, you take no chances and have the maximum amount of chances to get to the wins you need to make the playoffs and have failed in spite of that...other than making the play in game this year...which should not count in a playoff record either because you had to be one of the four shittiest teams in the field to even make that game.

[JBB]

Our FCS history is short. So far it includes victories over the Minnesota Gophers, Kansas Jayhawks, Ball State and Central Michigan. Our second year of playoff eligibility saw us go all the way to the bill fette bowl.

You guys have been in this division since 1974. Montana's biggest loss since moving up is to a D2 team, NDSU. NDSU has been here a couple years. The D2 record is good enough to show we have played non counters in the last 10 yrs it should be good enough to count the national championships and the Big Win at Washington Grizz.

[JBB]

NDSU went on to beat the Big Sky Co-Champions in a route going away too, dont forget that.

[JBB]

The cupcake feast is not to be found on the NDSU schedule. Some of the FBS teams that have scheduled us thought they were getting a cupcake, but they got beat. Those are big wins and they count in a big way. Ft lewis et al dont count. They arent even wins. They are exhibitions.

If thats what you want on your schedule thats your business. Im just saying the games that dont count should be listed as exhibition and not included in the won loss record. Its just to avoid misleading the public into thinking your team is better than it is, or to hedge the bet and disguise a possibly embarrassing loss.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Our FCS history is short. So far it includes victories over the Minnesota Gophers, Kansas Jayhawks, Ball State and Central Michigan. Our second year of playoff eligibility saw us go all the way to the bill fette bowl.

You guys have been in this division since 1974. Montana's biggest loss since moving up is to a D2 team, NDSU. NDSU has been here a couple years. The D2 record is good enough to show we have played non counters in the last 10 yrs it should be good enough to count the national championships and the Big Win at Washington Grizz.

Why do you keep saying things like "in our second year of eligibility?"

I mean I know 3-8 doesn't exactly make you eligible for the playoffs but technically you were eligible.

BTW I know you think those wins against Ball St. or Central Mich. are impressive. To guys like you I'm sure they are. They really ain't more than a foot note to most though. Sorry about that.

new Hampshire has more impressive FBS wins, not to mention JMU or App. St.

Just like when you guys played UM MSU was handling you and then let up not realizing that they needed to play the fourth quarter and in UM's case the second half. I'm not saying they ain't legit cuz they are wins. You got lucky in both games that the other team took you as an exhibition game. So be it, that's how it goes.

Congrats on all the success.

[kalm]

So JBB, a quick hypothetical for ya.

NDSU has a choice between filling it's third OOC slate with either a 5th home game against a DII at the Fabulous Fargo Dome, or for the sake of an all DI schedule, start the season with three consecutive road games by travelling to an FCS school and host only 4 home games the whole regular season?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The cupcake feast is not to be found on the NDSU schedule. Some of the FBS teams that have scheduled us thought they were getting a cupcake, but they got beat. Those are big wins and they count in a big way. Ft lewis et al dont count. They arent even wins. They are exhibitions.

If thats what you want on your schedule thats your business. Im just saying the games that dont count should be listed as exhibition and not included in the won loss record. Its just to avoid misleading the public into thinking your team is better than it is, or to hedge the bet and disguise a possibly embarrassing loss.

new flash here slick...the public that cares isn't mislead. The beauty of your statement is that you make an absolute living off of trying to make NDSU something that it clearly is not.

Your rosy outlook and utter spin on anything good or bad about NDSU is simply adorable.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

So JBB, a quick hypothetical for ya.

NDSU has a choice between filling it's third OOC slate with either a 5th home game against a DII at the Fabulous Fargo Dome, or for the sake of an all DI schedule, start the season with three consecutive road games by travelling to an FCS school and host only 4 home games the whole regular season?

Don't get sucked into this kalm. I'm already in here and it ain't pretty brother.

The wasted mind of a JBB is a terrible thing.

[grizzaholic]

So JBB, a quick hypothetical for ya.

NDSU has a choice between filling it's third OOC slate with either a 5th home game against a DII at the Fabulous Fargo Dome, or for the sake of an all DI schedule, start the season with three consecutive road games by travelling to an FCS school and host only 4 home games the whole regular season?

Don't get sucked into this kalm. I'm already in here and it ain't pretty brother.

The wasted mind of a JBB is a terrible thing.

Kalm. If Ursus needs a break and you are willing to give up a few brain cells and have at it I am sure Ursus will tag you in for a couple hours.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Im sorry, but by not listing them on the schedule as exhibition games there is an element of deception. The games should state on the schedule they are exhibitions. Back east and down south and even around here, not everybody knows who these schools are that are being scheduled so they might take it for granted that the defending National Champions or another Big Sky team is playing a Division 1 game and they shouldn't be deceived. They should be informed.

Its done in Basketball. Of course if you have no stomach to be accountable on the exhibitions games thats another story.

Except that we have an all D-I schedule in 2011, so like usual you're talkin' out of your ass.

[JBB]

You do know that a hypothetical scenario is not real dont you? You are also aware any answer I may give is not relevant to the question at hand, which is:

Non counter lower division games should be notated as exhibition and not included in the won-loss record.

Now, If NDSU were to schedule a non counter, and the rules were as they should be, the lower division game should be properly notated exhibition and the results should not be included in the final won/loss record.

Its that simple. Im not sure what it is that you folks don't understand?

Your lower division games should be properly notated exhibition and the results kept off the official won/loss record.

Thats my point.

[JBB]

I dont care if you have weak schedules, are trying to avoid injury with cupcake games because of lack of depth, have no available opponents in the FCS you can afford to bring into your "stadiums", Its irrelevant. In the end the big teams, the big winners, are still standing, as was NDSU last season, and they get the call the tournament. All others stay home.

What I care about is scoring the season results correctly and not misleading the public. Non-counter games, such as the NAIA and D2 games scheduled pretty much through out the BSC, year in and year out, should be notated exhibition and the results not included in the official won/loss record.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Our FCS history is short. So far it includes victories over the Minnesota Gophers, Kansas Jayhawks, Ball State and Central Michigan. Our second year of playoff eligibility saw us go all the way to the bill fette bowl.

You guys have been in this division since 1974. Montana's biggest loss since moving up is to a D2 team, NDSU. NDSU has been here a couple years. The D2 record is good enough to show we have played non counters in the last 10 yrs it should be good enough to count the national championships and the Big Win at Washington Grizz.

Sorry to break this to you JBB, but no, you don't have wins over those schools. You said it yourself; they don't count.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You do know that a hypothetical scenario is not real dont you? You are also aware any answer I may give is not relevant to the question at hand, which is:

Non counter lower division games should be notated as exhibition and not included in the won-loss record.

Now, If NDSU were to schedule a non counter, and the rules were as they should be, the lower division game should be properly notated exhibition and the results should not be included in the final won/loss record.

Its that simple. Im not sure what it is that you folks don't understand?

Your lower division games should be properly notated exhibition and the results kept off the official won/loss record.

Thats my point.

Exactly. Since UM played down to NDSU, that game doesn't count. Wiped from the records. Further, Ball State, Minnesota, Kansas.... all play down games for them, so as you say... they don't count!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Speaking of not counting for anything... having a conversation with JBB is like playing an NAIA team. Guess what JBB?




You don't count!

[JBB]

Those impressive wins by The NDSU BISON do count. They are included in the playoff consideration for FCS and more importantly would have counted as wins toward bowl invites for the defeated Charter Members of the BCS conferences and the other MAC wins. Thats a distinction simpler minds may have missed?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Those impressive wins by The NDSU BISON do count. They are included in the playoff consideration for FCS and more importantly would have counted as wins toward bowl invites for the defeated Charter Members of the BCS confernces and the other MAC wins. Thats a distinction simpler minds may have missed?

Nope. They were play down games for Kansas, Ball State etc; they don't count, just like the post you just made. Doesn't count. Your posts should be labeled "exhibition."