dbackjon wrote:Did he do any of this on American Soil?
Crap, I forget from the 60 Minutes piece where it was, but Hamilton said he called Armstrong on the secondary cell phone numbers all the doping cyclists kept for that purpose, used code word "Edgar Allan Poe" or "Poe" to refer to EPO, and he got a package of it sent to him from Armstrong via the mail. If it was USPS, that's just priceless.
The illegal blood doping via transfusion that was mentioned took place in Spain. They'd fly them down at night during off rest days during the Tour.
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dbackjon wrote:Did he do any of this on American Soil?
Crap, I forget from the 60 Minutes piece where it was, but Hamilton said he called Armstrong on the secondary cell phone numbers all the doping cyclists kept for that purpose, used code word "Edgar Allan Poe" or "Poe" to refer to EPO, and he got a package of it sent to him from Armstrong via the mail. If it was USPS, that's just priceless.
Do you fools really believe what you are reading???
It is all a ploy by the FRENCH to try and get win number (1). I mean come on folks. It isn't all that hard to see. The French have never won a battle, EVER...when they had a civil war it ended with a tie. SHIT. Their country's flag is a white one.
Give Lance a break. He has done lots of good in his time in the spot-light. France is just trying to get an edge on a victory.
Don't let them have it.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
He hasn't fail one drug test over the years. How much did this "friend" get paid to give this interview or write this book? I'm assuming this is in a book this guy wrote. WTF is going to buy a book written by a bicyclist NOT named Lance Armstong?
"Elaine, you're from Baltimore, right?"
"Yes, well, Towson actually."
andy7171 wrote:He hasn't fail one drug test over the years. How much did this "friend" get paid to give this interview or write this book? I'm assuming this is in a book this guy wrote. WTF is going to buy a book written by a bicyclist NOT named Lance Armstong?
How much did the federal grand jury pay him to say all this?
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
No, he didn't. But in the .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013% chance that he did...he gets a pass.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
No, he didn't. But in the .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013% chance that he did...he gets a pass.
I trust that you are acting in this thread, no? I mean, you don't seriously think Fraudstrong won 7 TdF's in a row clean do you? I've always respected your judgement.
grizzaholic wrote:
No, he didn't. But in the .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013% chance that he did...he gets a pass.
I trust that you are acting in this thread, no? I mean, you don't seriously think Fraudstrong won 7 TdF's in a row clean do you? I've always respected your judgement.
HE BEAT CANCER...of the BALLS!!! He is just that good. He got cancer and was so pissed off he kicked that shit right in the nuts, hehe, hooked up with a chick and rode a bike and won some French thing.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
grizzaholic wrote:
No, he didn't. But in the .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000013% chance that he did...he gets a pass.
I trust that you are acting in this thread, no? I mean, you don't seriously think Fraudstrong won 7 TdF's in a row clean do you? I've always respected your judgement.
I would doubt that he won all 7, but I would bet that he won plenty of them clean. He was public enemy number one for the entire worldwide anti-doping community, as well as the entire nation of France, and you're telling me they couldn't catch him, just once, in all that time? Either he was one of the greatest riders of all time or he was/is the greatest criminal mastermind of all time and we should seriously look into employing him in the CIA or a similar post. They catch cyclists galore all the time, even ones they are barely looking to catch, yet Armstrong couldn't be caught. Ever. I think he probably doped early on (late 90's), but probably won the majority of those Tours cleanly.
93henfan wrote:
I trust that you are acting in this thread, no? I mean, you don't seriously think Fraudstrong won 7 TdF's in a row clean do you? I've always respected your judgement.
I would doubt that he won all 7, but I would bet that he won plenty of them clean. He was public enemy number one for the entire worldwide anti-doping community, as well as the entire nation of France, and you're telling me they couldn't catch him, just once, in all that time? Either he was one of the greatest riders of all time or he was/is the greatest criminal mastermind of all time and we should seriously look into employing him in the CIA or a similar post. They catch cyclists galore all the time, even ones they are barely looking to catch, yet Armstrong couldn't be caught. Ever. I think he probably doped early on (late 90's), but probably won the majority of those Tours cleanly.
GannonFan wrote:
I would doubt that he won all 7, but I would bet that he won plenty of them clean. He was public enemy number one for the entire worldwide anti-doping community, as well as the entire nation of France, and you're telling me they couldn't catch him, just once, in all that time? Either he was one of the greatest riders of all time or he was/is the greatest criminal mastermind of all time and we should seriously look into employing him in the CIA or a similar post. They catch cyclists galore all the time, even ones they are barely looking to catch, yet Armstrong couldn't be caught. Ever. I think he probably doped early on (late 90's), but probably won the majority of those Tours cleanly.
We'll agree to disagree.
93, he is the best cyclist ever to don a helmet. He beat cancer. He has MR. T necklace of medals. Why must you try and hurt this mans rep?
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
Our local bicycling hero and former Armstrong teammate George Hincapie apparently testified that they both used EPO. There may be no fire, but there's a hell of a lot of smoke around Armstrong.
I don't know why you guys are berating the fellow. He's going to go down as the greatest piss tester in cycling history (except for the one he failed at the 2001 Tour Swisse).
93henfan wrote:I don't know why you guys are berating the fellow. He's going to go down as the greatest piss tester in cycling history (except for the one he failed at the 2001 Tour Swisse).
He ate a poppy seed muffin and drank a Jone's brand soda before the test. Total accident. He said sorry. He showed them the grocery store receipt for $3.64 +tax and the empty bottle and cap, which he recycled, and the muffin wrapper which he composted.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
93henfan wrote:I don't know why you guys are berating the fellow. He's going to go down as the greatest piss tester in cycling history (except for the one he failed at the 2001 Tour Swisse).
He ate a poppy seed muffin and drank a Jone's brand soda before the test. Total accident. He said sorry. He showed them the grocery store receipt for $3.64 +tax and the empty bottle and cap, which he recycled, and the muffin wrapper which he composted.
C'mon man - you make him sound like the first coming of Tim Tebow. Next thing you know you'll be telling me banged Sheryl Crow and knocked up his wife with one testicle.
grizzaholic wrote:
He ate a poppy seed muffin and drank a Jone's brand soda before the test. Total accident. He said sorry. He showed them the grocery store receipt for $3.64 +tax and the empty bottle and cap, which he recycled, and the muffin wrapper which he composted.
C'mon man - you make him sound like the first coming of Tim Tebow. Next thing you know you'll be telling me banged Sheryl Crow and knocked up his wife with one testicle.
He is actually Tim Tebow's real father. NO JOKE.
and maybe he did knock up that Crow bitch as well, but they aborted the fetus and donated it to stem-cell research.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
GannonFan wrote:
I would doubt that he won all 7, but I would bet that he won plenty of them clean. He was public enemy number one for the entire worldwide anti-doping community, as well as the entire nation of France, and you're telling me they couldn't catch him, just once, in all that time? Either he was one of the greatest riders of all time or he was/is the greatest criminal mastermind of all time and we should seriously look into employing him in the CIA or a similar post. They catch cyclists galore all the time, even ones they are barely looking to catch, yet Armstrong couldn't be caught. Ever. I think he probably doped early on (late 90's), but probably won the majority of those Tours cleanly.
We'll agree to disagree.
And without any tangible proof, neither of us will be proven right or wrong.
93henfan wrote:I don't know why you guys are berating the fellow. He's going to go down as the greatest piss tester in cycling history (except for the one he failed at the 2001 Tour Swisse).
.LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for Lance Armstrong have demanded an on-air apology from "60 Minutes" after the head of Switzerland's anti-doping laboratory denied allegations he tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs at the 2001 Tour de Suisse.
In a letter sent on Wednesday to CBS News Chairman and "60 Minutes" executive producer Jeff Fager, lawyer Elliot Peters said the May 22 segment about Armstrong was built on a series of falsehoods, and he accused the reputable CBS show of sloppy journalism.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
93henfan wrote:I don't know why you guys are berating the fellow. He's going to go down as the greatest piss tester in cycling history (except for the one he failed at the 2001 Tour Swisse).
.LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for Lance Armstrong have demanded an on-air apology from "60 Minutes" after the head of Switzerland's anti-doping laboratory denied allegations he tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs at the 2001 Tour de Suisse.
In a letter sent on Wednesday to CBS News Chairman and "60 Minutes" executive producer Jeff Fager, lawyer Elliot Peters said the May 22 segment about Armstrong was built on a series of falsehoods, and he accused the reputable CBS show of sloppy journalism.
From the article you linked:
Last week, the head of Switzerland's anti-doping laboratory, Martial Saugy, denied allegations Armstrong tested positive for performing-enhancing drugs during the 2001 Tour de Suisse.
Saugy said his lab did find suspicious levels of EPO in four urine samples from the race Armstrong won, but he didn't know if any belonged to the seven-time Tour de France winner.
Seriously? WHAT... THE... FUCK... ???
He doesn't know who the samples belonged to? What kind of cluster fuck is that guy running? He has four people doping and he doesn't know who they are? Coverup much?
Is this a bad joke? Fraudstrong's attorneys are pinning their defense on that Mr. Magoo?
This only further convinces me that Fraudstrong was doping hard for at least his first three TdFs and more than likely all seven. Thanks for posting.
.LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for Lance Armstrong have demanded an on-air apology from "60 Minutes" after the head of Switzerland's anti-doping laboratory denied allegations he tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs at the 2001 Tour de Suisse.
In a letter sent on Wednesday to CBS News Chairman and "60 Minutes" executive producer Jeff Fager, lawyer Elliot Peters said the May 22 segment about Armstrong was built on a series of falsehoods, and he accused the reputable CBS show of sloppy journalism.
From the article you linked:
Last week, the head of Switzerland's anti-doping laboratory, Martial Saugy, denied allegations Armstrong tested positive for performing-enhancing drugs during the 2001 Tour de Suisse.
Saugy said his lab did find suspicious levels of EPO in four urine samples from the race Armstrong won, but he didn't know if any belonged to the seven-time Tour de France winner.
Seriously? WHAT... THE... FUCK... ???
He doesn't know who the samples belonged to? What kind of cluster fuck is that guy running? He has four people doping and he doesn't know who they are? Coverup much?
Is this a bad joke? Fraudstrong's attorneys are pinning their defense on that Mr. Magoo?
This only further convinces me that Fraudstrong was doping hard for at least his first three TdFs and more than likely all seven. Thanks for posting.
I didn't read it. I just thought I would post something else about the greatest bike rider ever...EVER.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
