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Re: Big Sky Sends UND a Warning: We Have A Problem

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JBB wrote:Here is what physical football looks like in a box score:

Score by quarters:
North Dakota State.. 50 75 100 131
Opponents........... 64 74 58 52

As the game wears on The BISON get stronger and the opponents get the stuffing knocked out of them.

Even though The BISON started the year with just a 3 pt win over a BCS/FBS school, the Kansas Jayhawks, The NDSU BISON did outscored opponents on the year by 101 pts.

If you can show me those stats for your team you too can say your team plays physical football, and you had better hope they do. If they dont the BISON will crush them.
A few points:

I like smash-mouth football. That is NDSU's style of play, and it suits them for the type of athletes they get. Lean on your opponent and run the ball. Sometimes it works, sometimes is doesn't. When you are playing a team with a good vertical passing game that can spread it out and score points in a hurry, you better hope that A) You can defend the pass, B) Muster some sort of your own passing game, because if you get behind, it can be hard to catch up just trying to run the ball.

I think NDSU will be good this year, but for them to advance deep into the playoffs they need to become more balanced offensively. If NDSU finds some semblance of a passing game they could be really good. Also, your offensive line was big, but not a lot of athleticism there. There were times in the EWU game where they were beaten badly by smaller/faster/more athletic defensive ends and the QB/RB's run down behind the line of scrimmage. Bigger isn't always better in that regard. :twocents:
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HEY moderator, move the IMPORTANT NDSU thread info to a different thread, let this thread die like the athletic dept up @ und.

this thread was about the big sky wanting und out, cuz its obvious that they are racist, hostile and abusive.
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lakesbison wrote:HEY moderator, move the IMPORTANT NDSU thread info to a different thread, let this thread die like the athletic dept up @ und.

this thread was about the big sky wanting und out, cuz its obvious that they are racist, hostile and abusive.
This coming from a NDSU guy....
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NDSU has never held an entire nation of native americans hostage, glorified hitler or flipped off black hockey players on espn 2
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lakesbison wrote:NDSU has never held an entire nation of native americans hostage, glorified hitler or flipped off black hockey players on espn 2
Hey, I only said I didn't like Illinois Nazis....get it right.
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grizzaholic wrote:
lakesbison wrote:NDSU has never held an entire nation of native americans hostage, glorified hitler or flipped off black hockey players on espn 2
Hey, I only said I didn't like Illinois Nazis....get it right.
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Here is what physical football looks like in a boxscrore: -40 rush yards, 11 sacks.
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Does anyone else suspect that lakes doesn't obsess much about, or even really notice, racism when it doesn't involve UND?
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DJH wrote:Here is what physical football looks like in a boxscrore: -40 rush yards, 11 sacks.
:rofl: :rofl: But NDSU still managed 16 first downs and almost 100 more yards offense than UNI! :rofl: :rofl:

UNI was lucky to win that game. I wasnt impressed by the Panthers. Why, because that was a bad day for the BISON. UNIs seasons played out as well as they could have dreamed. It was a dream season for the Panthers, one in a million, but they sure arent a physical football team. They show no progression in strength as the game wears on as do The BISON.
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grizzaholic wrote:
lakesbison wrote:HEY moderator, move the IMPORTANT NDSU thread info to a different thread, let this thread die like the athletic dept up @ und.

this thread was about the big sky wanting und out, cuz its obvious that they are racist, hostile and abusive.
This coming from a NDSU guy....
You are absolutely one of the rudest posters I have ever seen. You are disrespectful, you exhibit simpleton behavior with your on going ad hominem attacks and generally incapable of talking football because of your apparent lower class upbringing and poor education. You and several others on this board are absolutely vile and you sir are a total EWU bitch! :rofl: :rofl:
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JBB wrote:
DJH wrote:Here is what physical football looks like in a boxscrore: -40 rush yards, 11 sacks.
:rofl: :rofl: But NDSU still managed 16 first downs and almost 100 more yards offense than UNI! :rofl: :rofl:

UNI was lucky to win that game. I wasnt impressed by the Panthers. Why, because that was a bad day for the BISON. UNIs seasons played out as well as they could have dreamed. It was a dream season for the Panthers, one in a million, but they sure arent a physical football team. They show no progression in strength as the game wears on as do The BISON.
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JBB wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
This coming from a NDSU guy....
You are absolutely one of the rudest posters I have ever seen. You are disrespectful, you exhibit simpleton behavior with your on going ad hominem attacks and generally incapable of talking football because of your apparent lower class upbringing and poor education. You and several others on this board are absolutely vile and you sir are a total EWU bitch! :rofl: :rofl:

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JBB wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
This coming from a NDSU guy....
You are absolutely one of the rudest posters I have ever seen. You are disrespectful, you exhibit simpleton behavior with your on going ad hominem attacks and generally incapable of talking football because of your apparent lower class upbringing and poor education. You and several others on this board are absolutely vile and you sir are a total EWU bitch! :rofl: :rofl:
UNI whipped the shit out of the bizon up and down the field all day long. It was like the varsity vs the JV team. It was a big, strong, super athletic, and super fast team going up against against a big, fat, slow ass D2 team. The Panthers pushed them all over the field at will, and the bizon were completely overwhelmed by the team speed that UNI displayed.

UNI outclassed the bizon in every way, and its been that way for 3 years running.
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EWURanger wrote:
JBB wrote:Here is what physical football looks like in a box score:

Score by quarters:
North Dakota State.. 50 75 100 131
Opponents........... 64 74 58 52

As the game wears on The BISON get stronger and the opponents get the stuffing knocked out of them.

Even though The BISON started the year with just a 3 pt win over a BCS/FBS school, the Kansas Jayhawks, The NDSU BISON did outscored opponents on the year by 101 pts.

If you can show me those stats for your team you too can say your team plays physical football, and you had better hope they do. If they dont the BISON will crush them.
A few points:

I like smash-mouth football. That is NDSU's style of play, and it suits them for the type of athletes they get. Lean on your opponent and run the ball. Sometimes it works, sometimes is doesn't. When you are playing a team with a good vertical passing game that can spread it out and score points in a hurry, you better hope that A) You can defend the pass, B) Muster some sort of your own passing game, because if you get behind, it can be hard to catch up just trying to run the ball.

I think NDSU will be good this year, but for them to advance deep into the playoffs they need to become more balanced offensively. If NDSU finds some semblance of a passing game they could be really good. Also, your offensive line was big, but not a lot of athleticism there. There were times in the EWU game where they were beaten badly by smaller/faster/more athletic defensive ends and the QB/RB's run down behind the line of scrimmage. Bigger isn't always better in that regard. :twocents:
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NDSU is already pretty balanced. They had 2,913 yds rushining and 2,142 passing (174/153 yds/game respectively). We do run 5 times for every pass though.

I think EWU is a team that could spread out and score pts quickly. They had to go to overtime with NDSU. I would also like to point out how NDSU can put up pts too (see Montana State game).

I think BISON fans would agree we need more consistency at QB, but just as importantly we need to see some able receivers step up.

I also think The BISON need to step it up on special teams. Last year we had pretty good punting but our kick coverage was weak and our FG unit was unreliable.

I expect improvement in all areas. Because there are other good football teams on the schedule I expect NDSU will win some and lose some. In the end they will be either the AQ or at-large from the MVFC.
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DJH wrote:
JBB wrote:
You are absolutely one of the rudest posters I have ever seen. You are disrespectful, you exhibit simpleton behavior with your on going ad hominem attacks and generally incapable of talking football because of your apparent lower class upbringing and poor education. You and several others on this board are absolutely vile and you sir are a total EWU bitch! :rofl: :rofl:
UNI whipped the **** out of the bizon up and down the field all day long. It was like the varsity vs the JV team. It was a big, strong, super athletic, and super fast team going up against against a big, fat, slow ass D2 team. The Panthers pushed them all over the field at will, and the bizon were completely overwhelmed by the team speed that UNI displayed.

UNI outclassed the bizon in every way, and its been that way for 3 years running.
Keep saying it, you might begin to believe it too. They were lucky to get by, had a good day on defense but were in the end out played and lucky to win.
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:lol:

I guess if you end up on the losing end every year, you really have to take pride in your "moral victories", JBB. :thumb:
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Well lucky, We dont have any moral victories at NDSU, thats und. You did win 3 in a row. But never did you establish yourselves as a superior program. All games were competitive, close in score and play on the field and established the 3-0 advantage for UNI, which is one of the most unlikely events in the history of college athletics. :nod:
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I'm sure you NDSU folks are really proud how you were able to keep it somewhat "competitive" with a superior UNI program.

Like I said, "moral victories". :thumb:
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We dont have moral victories at NDSU. Thats und.
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JBB wrote:We dont have moral victories at NDSU. Thats und.
Well, in that case, I guess it has been a complete failure in every way the last three years against a superior UNI program then. Correct? :thumb:
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JBB wrote:We dont have moral victories at NDSU. Thats und.
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I didn't watch the game, but...

Team Stat Comparison

N Dakota St Northern Iowa
1st Downs 16 16
Total Yards 207 434
Passing 247 172
Rushing -40 262
Penalties 9-77 11-106
3rd Down Conversions 6-16 3-12
4th Down Conversions 1-1 0-0
Turnovers 3 3
Possession 32:20 27:40
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JBB wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
This coming from a NDSU guy....
You are absolutely one of the rudest posters I have ever seen. You are disrespectful, you exhibit simpleton behavior with your on going ad hominem attacks and generally incapable of talking football because of your apparent lower class upbringing and poor education. You and several others on this board are absolutely vile and you sir are a total EWU bitch! :rofl: :rofl:
I just don't know what to say...


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I'm also intrigued by this "EWU bitch" thing. Maybe SE can explain it to me
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Silenoz wrote:I didn't watch the game, but...

Team Stat Comparison

N Dakota St Northern Iowa
1st Downs 16 16
Total Yards 207 434
JBB wrote:But NDSU still managed 16 first downs and almost 100 more yards offense than UNI!

Pwned.
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