Chasing History - Red Sox strive for perfection

[grizzaholic]

12-4 at worst..... at best 15-1

Well, they've already lost more than 4 games....thank god they got to play the worst game in baseball, huh?

Baltimore will take 2 of 3 from them.

[bandl]

Well, they've already lost more than 4 games....thank god they got to play the worst game in baseball, huh?

Baltimore will take 2 of 3 from them.

You think they'll end up with a tie in the 4th game of the series?

[grizzaholic]

Baltimore will take 2 of 3 from them.

You think they'll end up with a tie in the 4th game of the series?

OH..I counted wrong. I thought it was a 3 game set.. How about this. Baltimore will take 3 or 4 from them.

[bandl]

You think they'll end up with a tie in the 4th game of the series?

OH..I counted wrong. I thought it was a 3 game set.. How about this. Baltimore will take 3 or 4 from them.

I'd be down with that, although I really don't see that happening. The O's are doo doo.

[grizzaholic]

OH..I counted wrong. I thought it was a 3 game set.. How about this. Baltimore will take 3 or 4 from them.

I'd be down with that, although I really don't see that happening. The O's are doo doo.

They are biding their time before they make their RUN to the top...well more like the WC.

[bandl]

I'd be down with that, although I really don't see that happening. The O's are doo doo.

They are biding their time before they make their RUN to the top...well more like the WC.

Unfeigned.

[UNHWildCats]

12-4 at worst..... at best 15-1

Well, they've already lost more than 4 games....thank god they got to play the worst game in baseball, huh?

11-5 still aint bad.

[bandl]

Well, they've already lost more than 4 games....thank god they got to play the worst game in baseball, huh?

My prediction was wrong, like usual

Agreed

[UNHWildCats]

11-5 still aint bad.

I love you Travis

awwwww

[UNHWildCats]

Sox sweep Orioles. Sox 11-5 in that stretch, so I was 1 game off in my worst case scenerio.


I do look forward to the series in Baltimore, its going to be great to hear the Boston fans boo the hell out of Kevin Gregg as he makes his treck in from the bullpen on his home field.

[ODUalum11]

If it wasn't for a first inning infield single last night that went off of Beckett's foot and Tampa's pitcher pitching lights out as well, Beckett almost had a perfect game going last night but of course the game went almost 6 hours and 16 innings as the Sox won 1-0. I enjoyed this game because I love to see pitcher duels....as long as I'm not there in person.

[andy7171]

Sox sweep Orioles. Sox 11-5 in that stretch, so I was 1 game off in my worst case scenerio.


I do look forward to the series in Baltimore, its going to be great to hear the Boston fans boo the hell out of Kevin Gregg as he makes his treck in from the bullpen on his home field.

Don't count on it. Word on the streets is people are coming out tonight to see a fight. The whole city is a buzz.
I'll be 12 rows behind the O's dugout.

[UNHWildCats]

If it wasn't for a first inning infield single last night that went off of Beckett's foot and Tampa's pitcher pitching lights out as well, Beckett almost had a perfect game going last night but of course the game went almost 6 hours and 16 innings as the Sox won 1-0. I enjoyed this game because I love to see pitcher duels....as long as I'm not there in person.

a few starts ago Beckett was a infield dribbler down the third base line from having a perfect game against Tampa aswell. His last two outings vs TB he has gone 17 innings allowing two infield singles, 12 K and 0 walks.

[UNHWildCats]

Sox sweep Orioles. Sox 11-5 in that stretch, so I was 1 game off in my worst case scenerio.


I do look forward to the series in Baltimore, its going to be great to hear the Boston fans boo the hell out of Kevin Gregg as he makes his treck in from the bullpen on his home field.

Don't count on it. Word on the streets is people are coming out tonight to see a fight. The whole city is a buzz.
I'll be 12 rows behind the O's dugout.

Another day and another Sox crowd in Baltimore... sadly Ortiz and Gregg are suspended for the series so we wont see Gregg booed in his own stadium this time round.

[andy7171]

Don't count on it. Word on the streets is people are coming out tonight to see a fight. The whole city is a buzz.
I'll be 12 rows behind the O's dugout.

Another day and another Sox crowd in Baltimore... sadly Ortiz and Gregg are suspended for the series so we wont see Gregg booed in his own stadium this time round.

My brother asked loudly where all the RedSox fans came from. I said They are Americas team, the MLBs version of the Dallas Cowboys. People infront of us didn't like that. Then the RedSox hit a home run.

[UNHWildCats]

Putting aside the 2-10 start, the Sox have won at a .686 clip since, that leaves them on pace to still win 105 games.

[UNHWildCats]

The AL has 11 players will an OPS over .870 and five of those players occupy the top 5 spots of the Red Sox lineup.

[JoltinJoe]

The AL has 11 players will an OPS over .870 and five of those players occupy the top 5 spots of the Red Sox lineup.

Boston's scoring a lot of runs but the Sox are giving up a lot of runs too. Their pitching ERA right now is below the league average (granted, they play in the AL East and that's going to tend to inflate ERA as against the league average).

Lester goes tonight after three weeks off, but he's an ace and he should continue to pitch well. Beckett has been great. But other than that, the Sox have had big questions. Lackey and Wakefield have been terrible; Dice K is out; Buchholz has missed a lot time.

The Sox need to settle down the back of the rotation and get quality starts down the stretch from guys other than Lester and Beckett through August and September. They will make the playoffs, and even get past the first round, but it's tough to go deeper if you don't have starting depth. Between now and October, they need to develop that back-end of the rotation depth.

Who would have thought the Yankee pitching would be so much better than Boston's? Colon and Garcia were picked off the pile and they've pitched thus far like they did in their better seasons. Who would have believed that in April?

[Col Hogan]

The AL has 11 players will an OPS over .870 and five of those players occupy the top 5 spots of the Red Sox lineup.

Boston's scoring a lot of runs but the Sox are giving up a lot of runs too. Their pitching ERA right now is below the league average (granted, they play in the AL East and that's going to tend to inflate ERA as against the league average).

Lester goes tonight after three weeks off, but he's an ace and he should continue to pitch well. Beckett has been great. But other than that, the Sox have had big questions. Lackey and Wakefield have been terrible; Dice K is out; Buchholz has missed a lot time.

The Sox need to settle down the back of the rotation and get quality starts down the stretch from guys other than Lester and Beckett through August and September. They will make the playoffs, and even get past the first round, but it's tough to go deeper if you don't have starting depth. Between now and October, they need to develop that back-end of the rotation depth.

Who would have thought the Yankee pitching would be so much better than Boston's? Colon and Garcia were picked off the pile and they've pitched thus far like they did in their better seasons. Who would have believed that in April?

That's funny, joe...I was reading the Daily News the other day..a.to read it, the Yankees have nothing after CC...and according to the piece, if Cashman isn't out looking for pitching, the Yankees won't win...

Wakefield and Lackey haven't been terrible....they have been inconsistent...but not terrible...

[UNHWildCats]

The AL has 11 players will an OPS over .870 and five of those players occupy the top 5 spots of the Red Sox lineup.

Boston's scoring a lot of runs but the Sox are giving up a lot of runs too. Their pitching ERA right now is below the league average (granted, they play in the AL East and that's going to tend to inflate ERA as against the league average).

Lester goes tonight after three weeks off, but he's an ace and he should continue to pitch well. Beckett has been great. But other than that, the Sox have had big questions. Lackey and Wakefield have been terrible; Dice K is out; Buchholz has missed a lot time.

The Sox need to settle down the back of the rotation and get quality starts down the stretch from guys other than Lester and Beckett through August and September. They will make the playoffs, and even get past the first round, but it's tough to go deeper if you don't have starting depth. Between now and October, they need to develop that back-end of the rotation depth.

Who would have thought the Yankee pitching would be so much better than Boston's? Colon and Garcia were picked off the pile and they've pitched thus far like they did in their better seasons. Who would have believed that in April?

NYY Quality Starts - 53
Boston Quality Starts - 49

Hardly enough of a difference to declare Yankee pitching to be better.


As for the team ERA... its currently 3.93 and the league average is 3.90. The difference is soo small its meaningless to point out that its worse than league average. Its also worth pointing out, since the 2-10 start was behind them they have had a 3.59 team ERA to go with the .700 winning percent. The pitching is hardly the concern you make it out to be.

[JoltinJoe]

Boston's scoring a lot of runs but the Sox are giving up a lot of runs too. Their pitching ERA right now is below the league average (granted, they play in the AL East and that's going to tend to inflate ERA as against the league average).

Lester goes tonight after three weeks off, but he's an ace and he should continue to pitch well. Beckett has been great. But other than that, the Sox have had big questions. Lackey and Wakefield have been terrible; Dice K is out; Buchholz has missed a lot time.

The Sox need to settle down the back of the rotation and get quality starts down the stretch from guys other than Lester and Beckett through August and September. They will make the playoffs, and even get past the first round, but it's tough to go deeper if you don't have starting depth. Between now and October, they need to develop that back-end of the rotation depth.

Who would have thought the Yankee pitching would be so much better than Boston's? Colon and Garcia were picked off the pile and they've pitched thus far like they did in their better seasons. Who would have believed that in April?

NYY Quality Starts - 53
Boston Quality Starts - 49

Hardly enough of a difference to declare Yankee pitching to be better.


As for the team ERA... its currently 3.93 and the league average is 3.90. The difference is soo small its meaningless to point out that its worse than league average. Its also worth pointing out, since the 2-10 start was behind them they have had a 3.59 team ERA to go with the .700 winning percent. The pitching is hardly the concern you make it out to be.

The pitching will be a concern in October. They need more consistency at the back of the rotation to get through the three rounds of the post-season. That was my point. You can bash your way through the regular season by outscoring opponents and when you can feast on weaker staffs. It's tougher to win like that when you are consistently facing the tougher pitching staffs of the league's best teams.

[JoltinJoe]

Boston's scoring a lot of runs but the Sox are giving up a lot of runs too. Their pitching ERA right now is below the league average (granted, they play in the AL East and that's going to tend to inflate ERA as against the league average).

Lester goes tonight after three weeks off, but he's an ace and he should continue to pitch well. Beckett has been great. But other than that, the Sox have had big questions. Lackey and Wakefield have been terrible; Dice K is out; Buchholz has missed a lot time.

The Sox need to settle down the back of the rotation and get quality starts down the stretch from guys other than Lester and Beckett through August and September. They will make the playoffs, and even get past the first round, but it's tough to go deeper if you don't have starting depth. Between now and October, they need to develop that back-end of the rotation depth.

Who would have thought the Yankee pitching would be so much better than Boston's? Colon and Garcia were picked off the pile and they've pitched thus far like they did in their better seasons. Who would have believed that in April?

That's funny, joe...I was reading the Daily News the other day..a.to read it, the Yankees have nothing after CC...and according to the piece, if Cashman isn't out looking for pitching, the Yankees won't win...

Wakefield and Lackey haven't been terrible....they have been inconsistent...but not terrible...

Lackey's ERA is over 6.00 and Wake is over 5.00. That's not very good.

Right now, the Yankee ERA is almost a half-run a game better than the Sox. That's a significant difference. Whether it will hold is another matter, but you'd have to admit that the Yankee pitching has been a lot better than Boston's up to this point. I don't think you would have guessed in April that, on July 25, the Yankees would be pitching to an ERA almost a half-run per game lower than the Boston staff.

[UNHWildCats]

That's funny, joe...I was reading the Daily News the other day..a.to read it, the Yankees have nothing after CC...and according to the piece, if Cashman isn't out looking for pitching, the Yankees won't win...

Wakefield and Lackey haven't been terrible....they have been inconsistent...but not terrible...

Lackey's ERA is over 6.00 and Wake is over 5.00. That's not very good.

Right now, the Yankee ERA is almost a half-run a game better than the Sox. That's a significant difference. Whether it will hold is another matter, but you'd have to admit that the Yankee pitching has been a lot better than Boston's up to this point. I don't think you would have guessed in April that, on July 25, the Yankees would be pitching to an ERA almost a half-run per game lower than the Boston staff.

Again, if you put aside the 2-10 start when the team was doing nothing well and the team ERA is 3.59 which is just a tad below the Yankees 3.50

Now some people will argue its not fair to take away 12 games worth of stats, but the .700 3.59 ERA Red Sox from game 13 on is certainly the real Red Sox and not the 2-10 6.24 ERA team we saw the first two weeks.

[JoltinJoe]

Lackey's ERA is over 6.00 and Wake is over 5.00. That's not very good.

Right now, the Yankee ERA is almost a half-run a game better than the Sox. That's a significant difference. Whether it will hold is another matter, but you'd have to admit that the Yankee pitching has been a lot better than Boston's up to this point. I don't think you would have guessed in April that, on July 25, the Yankees would be pitching to an ERA almost a half-run per game lower than the Boston staff.

Again, if you put aside the 2-10 start when the team was doing nothing well and the team ERA is 3.59 which is just a tad below the Yankees 3.50

Now some people will argue its not fair to take away 12 games worth of stats, but the .700 3.59 ERA Red Sox from game 13 on is certainly the real Red Sox and not the 2-10 6.24 ERA team we saw the first two weeks.

Let me even more blunt: Who do you hand the ball to in Game 3 of the ALDS? Confident in that guy?

[GannonFan]

Again, if you put aside the 2-10 start when the team was doing nothing well and the team ERA is 3.59 which is just a tad below the Yankees 3.50

Now some people will argue its not fair to take away 12 games worth of stats, but the .700 3.59 ERA Red Sox from game 13 on is certainly the real Red Sox and not the 2-10 6.24 ERA team we saw the first two weeks.

Let me even more blunt: Who do you hand the ball to in Game 3 of the ALDS? Confident in that guy?

I trust the irony of a Yankee fan questioning the quality of someone else's 3rd starter isn't lost on you, JJ, is it? Who are you handing the ball to in Game 3 of the ALDS? Confident in your guy?