Big Sky Sends UND a Warning: We Have A Problem

[Silenoz]

When I google the exact phrase "Big Dakota 3" it returns a handful of posts by JBB and several porn flicks.

If its on the internet its true!

The Big Dakota 3 are: NDSU, SDSU and USD. They compete for the highest honor of best college football team in the Dakotas. True, its a de-facto title, but its real in the sense that all sports fans in the Dakotas watch the Big Three and generally agree the round robin will decide the Dakota Championship. There are a few fans from UND, a school that plays out west someplace and reports most of its scores after midnight, that object, but they are no longer part of the heritage moving forward. They have moved on doing the best thing for UND athletics you know. Even though they are among the worst teams in the FCS they should be able to carve out a comfortable niche in the bottom heavy BSC.

The wonder that is the human mind. I have no doubts that you sincerely believe everything you post

[JBB]

The NDSU Model is greatly admired and employed by most successful programs in our division. It does not include intra-divisional scheduling. That undermines the FCS, disrespects other conference members and exploits smaller weaker programs for financial gain.

[Grizalltheway]

When I google the exact phrase "Big Dakota 3" it returns a handful of posts by JBB and several porn flicks.

What about "NDSU model?"

[Silenoz]

The NDSU Model is greatly admired and employed by most successful programs in our division. It does not include intra-divisional scheduling. That undermines the FCS, disrespects other conference members and exploits smaller weaker programs for financial gain.

Oh my god I am laughing too hard; co-workers might start wondering what is up

[JBB]

Of course UND can call themselves King of the Dakotas. They can call themselves anything they want cant they?

Either way they are not among the Big 3 Dakota Schools: NDSU, SDSU and USD.

[JBB]

Double post

[Silenoz]

When teams employ loudness at their games, they commonly refer to it as the "Montana factor", basically because they modeled it after the Grizzly conglomerate. Just FYI

[NDSUFREAK]

This thread changes topic so fast!! Now jbb has made up a completely new championship that all the dakota's intently follow? goodness

But you know, I have a theory...jbb is a closet UND fan just trying to make NDSU fans looks retarded.

[DJH]

University of North Dakota all time records against their little brothers:

UND- 62
NDSU-45

UND-59
USD-29

UND-46
SDSU-33

All time record, 167-107.


THE KING OF THE DAKOTAS.

[JBB]

Well their bitches can call them king, heck they can call themselves king, but they cant call themselves Sioux!

The important thing to remember is UND no longer competes in the Dakotas. They quit and now play out west some place. For those schools that are involved with them a new future can be built. They have some tremendous opportunities with peer institutions they have a tradition with such as UNC and Sioux Falls University if they feel they need a "local" flair.

As the Dakota heritage moves forward we can all reflect on the past and enjoy it. For most of us its the future we look forward to and that means exciting times between the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD.

Good luck to UND, they need it.

[JBB]

This thread changes topic so fast!! Now jbb has made up a completely new championship that all the dakota's intently follow? goodness

But you know, I have a theory...jbb is a closet UND fan just trying to make NDSU fans looks retarded.

I imagine, because you are such a thoughtful and polite fellow, that you dont recognize the Border Marker for what it is: The College Football Championship of the Dakotas and you probably dont feel USD is part of that?

The Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD

The Stakes: College football supremacy in the Dakotas

The games: The round robin in the MVFC

USD isnt really in until they gain membership into the MVFC. You see they havent completed their transition yet and, just like UND, are not members of the NCAA Division 1.

Current Football Champion of the Dakotas: NDSU, Kings of college football in the Dakota Territiories!

[clenz]

I think Sioux Falls was brought up in this thread....

You fucktard, there is no Sioux Falls University in any division (JUCO, NAIA D3-D1)

There is a University of Sioux Falls that is D2.

[JBB]

When teams employ loudness at their games, they commonly refer to it as the "Montana factor", basically because they modeled it after the Grizzly conglomerate. Just FYI

Often these types of expressions will take on a "local convention". I think thats good. I suppose all you guys going around saying hey the crowd is loud! Its the "Montana Factor"?

Here in the Dakotas, at least with the Big 3 schools, NDSU, SDSU and USD, we call it the 12th man. That type of thing is not really part of "The Model" however. I was referring to the business model, not game time terminology, local or otherwise.

[JBB]

I think Sioux Falls was brought up in this thread....

You ****, there is no Sioux Falls University in any division (JUCO, NAIA D3-D1)

There is a University of Sioux Falls that is D2.

They are not D2 you dumb a**, they are transitioning to D2, which makes them fair game scheduling in the BSC and UND has them covered. Series stands at 1-0 in favor of Sioux Falls.

[clenz]

I think Sioux Falls was brought up in this thread....

You ****, there is no Sioux Falls University in any division (JUCO, NAIA D3-D1)

There is a University of Sioux Falls that is D2.

They are not D2 you dumb a**, they are transitioning to D2, which makes them fair game scheduling in the BSC and UND has them covered. Series stands at 1-0 in favor of Sioux Falls.

As of July 1 they are no lo longer NAIA.

The are as much D2 ad Texas State, UTSA, etc... are FBS

[EWURanger]

Wow, the season cannot get here soon enough.

[JBB]

They are not D2 you dumb a**, they are transitioning to D2, which makes them fair game scheduling in the BSC and UND has them covered. Series stands at 1-0 in favor of Sioux Falls.

As of July 1 they are no lo longer NAIA.

The are as much D2 ad Texas State, UTSA, etc... are FBS

Thanks for the update. I thought they had another year, but Ill take your word for it. That might take some of the embarrassment out of this years contest in GF and provide an opportunity for all BSC fans to puff out their chests and say: UND is joining our conference and nod knowingly.

Their true bitches can then go on to give us a history of USF and tell everyone that they have a good football team good enough to beat almost any FCS team in the country, just like UND fans!

[DJH]

Can't argue with the facts. The FIGHING SIOUX own NDSU, SDSU, and USD, and are the KINGS of the Dakotas.

[Gil Dobie]

UND will add a lot to the Big Sky. The have a rich sports tradition.

[NDSUFREAK]

This thread changes topic so fast!! Now jbb has made up a completely new championship that all the dakota's intently follow? goodness

But you know, I have a theory...jbb is a closet UND fan just trying to make NDSU fans looks retarded.

I imagine, because you are such a thoughtful and polite fellow, that you dont recognize the Border Marker for what it is: The College Football Championship of the Dakotas and you probably dont feel USD is part of that?

The Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD

The Stakes: College football supremacy in the Dakotas

The games: The round robin in the MVFC

USD isnt really in until they gain membership into the MVFC. You see they havent completed their transition yet and, just like UND, are not members of the NCAA Division 1.

Current Football Champion of the Dakotas: NDSU, Kings of college football in the Dakota Territiories!

I only recognize the Dakota Marker as a trophy between NDSU and SDSU. The only championship there is, is the game played in Frisco

[SloStang]

Double post

One was too many.

[JBB]

[JBB]

I know, by what Im hearing from my friends at UND, that being excluded from the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD, is a sore point with them. They have had good success in the Dakotas over the past 100 yrs.

Since 1965, the generally agreed upon date of the "Modern era of Football in the Dakotas", its been a whole lot different, but they should take pride in their long-term success, especially in the early half of the 20th century, and carry that with them. A team and program of their caliber should, in time, be able to become a strong mid-pack player in that conference, just as they were in the NCC.

The BSC is a good home for them. More than enough weak teams to keep their won/loss in balance but also a few teams that can get them some national interest. NDSU and SDSU provided that for them in the old NCC.

But the fact is, there is no room for an outsider in the Dakota Big 3. If Minnesota loses to the BISON again, NDSU doesnt get the Little Brown Jug. Its the same for UND. They no longer participate in the Dakota Football Championship with the Dakota Big 3. They are just another OOC game for the Big 3 Dakota schools will little in common since they quit in 2003.

When the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD, play they are playing for the same stakes: Dakota pride, conference standing, home playoff games, national recognition, etc. The same things that made the competition great among the Dakota schools in the old NCC rolls on with the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD. UND no longer shares these common traits and interests. They are out west someplace a time zone or two away.

Sure UND can brag, boast and complain, some of their stronger points by-the-way, about not being included but they would be better served trying to get something going for themselves in the BSC. They have a chance to build a great rivalry with old NCC mate UNC.

They could also get some of the Dakota flair if they developed the rivalry with University of Sioux Falls. It could serve as the Jr. Bowl and lead in to the contest between the Mighty Dakota Land Grants, the Border Marker game, as they did for years with USD. USD has since moved up into the Dakota Big 3.

This advice is wise if they do back down to the NCAA and actually gain admittance into the BSC. If they are strong and smart and dont back down, as an independent this advice is even more important.

Good luck to UND as the Big 3 Dakota schools: NDSU, SDSU and USD, march into the future in a grand competition that will capture not only the eyes of the Mighty Dakota Territories, but the eyes of the nation as well.

[JBB]

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GeauxSioux, on 08 July 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:
The ramblings of an oft banned poster...Big Sky Sends UND a Warning: We Have A Problem

I love the post by a UNI fan that UND's record against the other Dakota schools.

That is an awesome post. I hate JBB and his Dakota 3 BS. All because the South Dakota teams face the Bison big deal. Tell you what when we play NDSU and beat them there will be no mention of JBB's Dakota 3 Championship.

Yes Darell that is correct. Even if your AD ever does have what it takes to sign contracts with NDSU, you know he has turned NDSU down 3 or 4 times in the last couple yrs, win or lose it doesnt matter to the Big Dakota 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD. Its just another OOC game in Fargo. Of course if you go on the NCAA "list" Im sure any offers that might be forthcoming from NDSU will not appear.

[houndawg]

The NDSU Model is greatly admired and employed by most successful programs in our division. It does not include intra-divisional scheduling. That undermines the FCS, disrespects other conference members and exploits smaller weaker programs for financial gain.

Do you realize how much egg you're going to have on your faces if you don't make the playoffs after buying wins against a pair of non-scholly teams? Money well spent if you make the playoffs, but it sho does look like NDSU isn't brimming with confidence about their MVC season. Stands to reason, though, since you can't break .500 when the league is at rock bottom, you're going to need those body bag games........