I know, by what Im hearing from my friends at UND, that being excluded from the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD, is a sore point with them. They have had good success in the Dakotas over the past 100 yrs.
Since 1965, the generally agreed upon date of the "Modern era of Football in the Dakotas", its been a whole lot different, but they should take pride in their long-term success, especially in the early half of the 20th century, and carry that with them. A team and program of their caliber should, in time, be able to become a strong mid-pack player in the Big Sky Conference, just as they were in the NCC.
The BSC is a good home for them. More than enough weak teams to keep their won/loss in balance but also a few teams that can get them some national interest. NDSU and SDSU provided that for them in the old NCC.
But the fact is, there is no room for an outsider in the Dakota Big 3. If Minnesota loses to the BISON again, NDSU doesnt get the Little Brown Jug. Its the same for UND. They no longer participate in the Dakota Football Championship with the Dakota Big 3. They are just another OOC game for the Big 3 Dakota schools will little in common since they quit in 2003.
When the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD, play they are playing for the same stakes: Dakota pride, conference standing, home playoff games, national recognition, etc. The same things that made the competition great among the Dakota schools in the old NCC rolls on with the Dakota Big 3: NDSU, SDSU and USD. UND no longer shares these common traits and interests. They are out west someplace a time zone or two away.
Sure UND can brag, boast and complain, some of their stronger points by-the-way, about not being included but they would be better served trying to get something going for themselves in the BSC. They have a chance to build a great rivalry with old NCC mate UNC.
They could also get some of the Dakota flair if they developed the rivalry with University of Sioux Falls. It could serve as the Jr. Bowl and lead in to the contest between the Mighty Dakota Land Grants, the Border Marker game, as they did for years with USD. USD has since moved up into the Dakota Big 3.
This advice is wise if they do back down to the NCAA and actually gain admittance into the BSC. If they are strong and smart and dont back down, as an independent this advice is even more important.
Good luck to UND as the Big 3 Dakota schools: NDSU, SDSU and USD, march into the future in a grand competition that will capture not only the eyes of the Mighty Dakota Territories, but the eyes of the nation as well.
THE DAKOTA BIG 3
THE DAKOTA BIG 3
I split this out of another thread. Its a topic that is gaining national attention and is certainly of regional interest. Its a hot topic. Please read and discuss:
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Re: THE DAKOTA BIG 3
Shouldn't this be in smack?
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Re: THE DAKOTA BIG 3
It's not a hot topic if you're the only one referring to it. Please cite any links by anyone other than yourself.
This is the only 'Dakota Big Three' reference I could find (other than Dodge trucks)



This is the only 'Dakota Big Three' reference I could find (other than Dodge trucks)



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It is a revolving cycle that never ends.Grizalltheway wrote:
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
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Re: THE DAKOTA BIG 3
I found a picture of JBBgrizzaholic wrote:It is a revolving cycle that never ends.Grizalltheway wrote:

And his theme song
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Re: THE DAKOTA BIG 3
The dakota big 3 is the Dakota JV league, when in comparison to the FIGHTING SIOUX, the KING of the Dakotas.
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Re: THE DAKOTA BIG 3
although a trophy for the Dakota Big 3 round-robin football championship has not been develped yet i dont think the Border Marker should be it. As you all know the Boarder Marker is the coveted trophy that NDSU and SDSU compete for every year. With it comes the defacto title of "Best Football Team in the Dakotas".
I think the form of the round-robin competition should be that USD has to beat the winner of the Border Marker game. The Border Marker would stay with the winner of the NDSU/SDSU contest. When decided, a new trophy should be issued for the Dakota College Football Champs and the Dakota Big 3 title and kept in the State Capital Building of the winning team.
It would be nice if UND could be part of it but they cant. They can call themselves anything they want though, cant they?

I think the form of the round-robin competition should be that USD has to beat the winner of the Border Marker game. The Border Marker would stay with the winner of the NDSU/SDSU contest. When decided, a new trophy should be issued for the Dakota College Football Champs and the Dakota Big 3 title and kept in the State Capital Building of the winning team.
It would be nice if UND could be part of it but they cant. They can call themselves anything they want though, cant they?
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over 100 years of domination for UND. They have nothing left to prove, as they are so clearly superior to every other dakota institution.
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NDSU
USD
SDSU
If there.was.a.4th itd be U Sioux Falls
thats the order, NDSU bitch slapped them both last year.
USD
SDSU
If there.was.a.4th itd be U Sioux Falls
thats the order, NDSU bitch slapped them both last year.
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Yes, you are correct. That is the order of the consolation champion of the Dakotas.lakesbison wrote:NDSU
USD
SDSU
If there.was.a.4th itd be U Sioux Falls
thats the order, NDSU bitch slapped them both last year.
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How many D-I championships have been won by the so-called "Dakota 3?" I think UND has won something like 7 in hockey... that's pretty impressive. I live in Oregon, and the only team I ever see on TV from the Dakotas is UND on one of the Fox / Root Sports affiliates.
I'd say UND is the "Dakota 1" with the other 3 programs being the "Lesser 3." Especially the Bi-Sons. Get at me when your QB doesn't fumble away possession at the one inch line.
I'd say UND is the "Dakota 1" with the other 3 programs being the "Lesser 3." Especially the Bi-Sons. Get at me when your QB doesn't fumble away possession at the one inch line.
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Is'nt being the best football team in the Dakotas akin to being the best hockey player in Ecuador?

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LDopaPDX wrote:How many D-I championships have been won by the so-called "Dakota 3?" I think UND has won something like 7 in hockey... that's pretty impressive. I live in Oregon, and the only team I ever see on TV from the Dakotas is UND on one of the Fox / Root Sports affiliates.
I'd say UND is the "Dakota 1" with the other 3 programs being the "Lesser 3." Especially the Bi-Sons. Get at me when your QB doesn't fumble away possession at the one inch line.
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No. JaBBer actually believes his verbal flatulence.....grizzaholic wrote:Shouldn't this be in smack?
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Man I'm a SDSU fan and whenever she (I am convinced JBB is a she, only a woman can be this irrational) brings up this Big Dakota 3 shit I wanna punt my damn computer, just for making us look like douches by assosiation, and for teaming us up with USD. I can't imagine what NDSU fans think of this.

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What do the hamburgers, jackbunnies, and roadrunner chasers have that UND doesn't?
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Since jbb loves pictures so much...LDopaPDX wrote:How many D-I championships have been won by the so-called "Dakota 3?" I think UND has won something like 7 in hockey... that's pretty impressive. I live in Oregon, and the only team I ever see on TV from the Dakotas is UND on one of the Fox / Root Sports affiliates.
I'd say UND is the "Dakota 1" with the other 3 programs being the "Lesser 3." Especially the Bi-Sons. Get at me when your QB doesn't fumble away possession at the one inch line.

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A win over a I-A/FBS school (which I think is where the actual origin of the construct that is the "Dakota Big 3" in JBB's mind was born out of)Pwns wrote:What do the hamburbers, jackbunnies, and roadrunner chasers have that UND doesn't?

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yeah, what he said ^^Thumper 76 wrote:Man I'm a SDSU fan and whenever she (I am convinced JBB is a she, only a woman can be this irrational) brings up this Big Dakota 3 **** I wanna punt my damn computer, just for making us look like douches by assosiation, and for teaming us up with USD. I can't imagine what NDSU fans think of this.


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There is a point of diminishing returns in trying to publicly dismiss and disrespect your rival, beyond which it becomes obvious to everyone that your rival is well and truly under your skin. Not sure exactly where that line is, but making up and capitalizing an imaginary championship which virtually no one else in your own fanbase or the SDSU and USD fanbases even recognizes is almost certainly on the wrong side of it.
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