Comprehensive List of FCS over FBS wins?

[Silenoz]

That comprehensive list leaves out last season's (2010) Big South wins of Gardner-Webb over Akron and Liberty over Ball State. I do believe that the MAC has sent teams to Bowl Games the last few years. I know that the Big South doesn't get much respect but hey a win is a win is a win. App. State with their string of wins against Wake Forest and the All-Time biggest upset beating Michigan in the Big House clearly has the best history of wins and Kansas State along with Wake Forest appears to have the worst history of BCS teams against FCS teams. It's not all unexpected that Wake Forest doesn't want to play App. State anymore. Heck, maybe even Gardner-Webb could sneak up on WFU this season.

FCS over major FBS. Hence why you don't see wins over teams like Idaho, or wins from before the split

[clenz]

Conference wins?

NDSU is the best team in the MVFC, picked to win it this year. The BCS wins, include wins over Big 10 and Big 12 charter members help define the NDSU program. Congratulations to the other FCS teams on the list as well. You see the elite FCS programs on that list and in most recent history NDSU is a regular winner.

NDSU was picked to win the league by a NSDU blogger....wait until the coaches poll and media poll come out

['NeckFootball]

Western has a couple wins over the MAC level schools....if that even counts lol

[DJH]

Conference wins?

NDSU is the best team in the MVFC, picked to win it this year. The BCS wins, include wins over Big 10 and Big 12 charter members help define the NDSU program. Congratulations to the other FCS teams on the list as well. You see the elite FCS programs on that list and in most recent history NDSU is a regular winner.

Usually "best team" means "better than everyone else". And usually "picked to win" means "picked in front of every other team".

[easterntennhen]

Well navy may not be bcs but they play a national schedule against many bcs conference teams. So I dispute the premise here. Navy is certainly on a level with, if not better than all the teams listed there. Would anybody with any sense dispute that navy is better than wake forest, minnesota, kansas, or any of the other bcs leauge teams listed? I am pretty sure that I am right on this.

[clenz]

Well navy may not be bcs but they play a national schedule against many bcs conference teams. So I dispute the premise here. Navy is certainly on a level with, if not better than all the teams listed there. Would anybody with any sense dispute that navy is better than wake forest, minnesota, kansas, or any of the other bcs leauge teams listed? I am pretty sure that I am right on this.

Navy is probably on part with Wake, maybe a tad better. I'll give you Minnesota and Kansas though

Last season Navy had wins against Georgia Southern, Louisana Tech, Wake Forest, SMU, Notre Dame, ECU, CMU, Arkansas State, and lost to Army, Maryland, Air Force, Duke, San Diego State


No more "impressive" wins than other non-BCS teams.

[JBB]

NDSU is the best team in the MVFC, picked to win it this year. The BCS wins, include wins over Big 10 and Big 12 charter members help define the NDSU program. Congratulations to the other FCS teams on the list as well. You see the elite FCS programs on that list and in most recent history NDSU is a regular winner.

Usually "best team" means "better than everyone else". And usually "picked to win" means "picked in front of every other team".

Exactly how I was using the terms!

[DJH]

NDSU is not the best team, in fact, they never have been the best team. The bizon will not be picked to win the league. The bizon are not/will not be the highest ranked team in the MVFC.

You lose.

[Gil Dobie]

NDSU is not the best team, in fact, they never have been the best team. The bizon will not be picked to win the league. The bizon are not/will not be the highest ranked team in the MVFC.

You lose.

That's right, UNI is the best of the best, 15 conference title's in 25 years, no one else can even possibly think their team is close. If only Lehigh was in the MVFC.

[clenz]

NDSU is not the best team, in fact, they never have been the best team. The bizon will not be picked to win the league. The bizon are not/will not be the highest ranked team in the MVFC.

You lose.

That's right, UNI is the best of the best, 15 conference title's in 25 years, no one else can even possibly think their team is close. If only Lehigh was in the MVFC.

You talk a lot of shit for being a fan of a team that has never finished over .500 in conference play.

[Gil Dobie]

That's right, UNI is the best of the best, 15 conference title's in 25 years, no one else can even possibly think their team is close. If only Lehigh was in the MVFC.

You talk a lot of **** for being a fan of a team that has never finished over .500 in conference play.

UNI is the best of the best

Nobody else can have an opinion

[clenz]

You talk a lot of **** for being a fan of a team that has never finished over .500 in conference play.

UNI is the best of the best

Nobody else can have an opinion

Check the siggy, bitch

[Gil Dobie]

UNI is the best of the best

Nobody else can have an opinion

Check the siggy, bitch

Siggy says UNI is the best of the best and no National Championships.

I can respond without calling names too.

[DJH]

NDSU is not the best team, in fact, they never have been the best team. The bizon will not be picked to win the league. The bizon are not/will not be the highest ranked team in the MVFC.

You lose.

That's right, UNI is the best of the best, 15 conference title's in 25 years, no one else can even possibly think their team is close. If only Lehigh was in the MVFC.

This is not a matter of opinion. Its a matter of facts.

Lehigh was a good team last year. Not sure why you continue to disparage them.

[Gil Dobie]

That's right, UNI is the best of the best, 15 conference title's in 25 years, no one else can even possibly think their team is close. If only Lehigh was in the MVFC.

This is not a matter of opinion. Its a matter of facts.

Lehigh was a good team last year. Not sure why you continue to disparage them.

In a previous post, not on this thread, I said UNI, Lehigh, WIU could have beaten Montana St last year. Lehigh is a legit team, sorry you are taking it in the negative light.

[AZGrizFan]

The BCS wins, include wins over Big 10 and Big 12 charter members help define the NDSU program.

We use NC flags to define our program. Beating up on FBS bottom-feeders isn't all that tough...But, when you HAVE no NC flags, I can see why you'd grasp at some meaningless thing like FBS wins to "define" your program.

[grizzaholic]

The BCS wins, include wins over Big 10 and Big 12 charter members help define the NDSU program.

We use NC flags to define our program. Beating up on FBS bottom-feeders isn't all that tough...But, when you HAVE no NC flags, I can see why you'd grasp at some meaningless thing like FBS wins to "define" your program.

I would think he would grasp at wins vs UNI....oh wait.

[JBB]

Nothing wrong with big fish/small pond. You guys are good at it. The best.

An FCS championship, even in the expanded playoff format like EWUs championship, is still a decent measure of success. Its not the only one though.

[grizzaholic]

Nothing wrong with big fish/small pond. You guys are good at it. The best.

An FCS championship, even in the expanded playoff format like EWUs championship is, is still a decent measure of success. Its not the only one though.

Way to give a backhanded compliment. You, miss, are a douche.

[JBB]

I can understand your frustration, using only one measure of success to define your program is certainly limiting.

[DJH]

Nothing wrong with big fish/small pond. You guys are good at it. The best.

An FCS championship, even in the expanded playoff format like EWUs championship is, is still a decent measure of success. Its not the only one though.

Without that expanded playoff format, your bizon still have 0 playoff appearances.

[JBB]

My point exactly. If NDSUs success is diminished by the expanded playoff field, then everyones is. The Eagles are good, but the field was expanded you know?

[AZGrizFan]

Nothing wrong with big fish/small pond. You guys are good at it. The best.

An FCS championship, even in the expanded playoff format like EWUs championship, is still a decent measure of success. Its not the only one though.

The pond we play in is the same size pond your bison play in. To be the best you've got to beat the best. That means get ALL the way through the playoffs, beating the best that FCS has to offer. NDSU has yet to accomplish that fact, and all the bottom-feeder FBS wins in the world won't change that. Creating fictitious "measures of success" to placate your feelings because your team has yet to actually accomplish anything is the epitome of myopia.

Your "conglomerate" needs to undergo a P&A.

[JBB]

When measuring NDSUs success, wins against the BCS/FBS help define our program. Thats the essence of the thread. The FCS schools that have the wins, especially in the numbers NDSU has, are the big FCS programs. This thread helps you make that list. Thanks for starting it!

[DJH]

My point exactly. If NDSUs success is diminished by the expanded playoff field, then everyones is. The Eagles are good, but the field was expanded you know?

lol, no.

EWU was a top 5 team most of the year, and won their conference championship. They didn't need that last expanded playoff spot to back into the playoffs.

If you want to argue that EWU's title run was watered down, then the only logical argument that makes that statement true is that EWU benefited from playing weak teams that were not worthy of being in the playoffs in previous years. (like NDSU)

You just slammed NDSU, and you didn't even know it. Dumbass.

As usual, I win.