2011 Missouri Valley Football Discussion

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DJH wrote:
JBB wrote:Even at #13 The BISON are in the Top 10% of FCS squads. Whats your problem? Are you in some kind of denial?
The problem is that you said they were top 10, and picked to win the MVFC.

They are not top 10.

And the only poll that has them winning the MVFC at this point was written by some Bison fan, on an NDSU blog.

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The guy who says the following is the same guy you are knocking as the "NDSU guy"
http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/ wrote:Of all the FCS preseason polls I’ve seen, this is probably the most realistic for this reason: it takes into account the power of the top leagues in the division. I’m not sure who runs CS.com, but they seem to know their stuff. It’s a pretty good website with maps, blogs and stats, check it out sometime.

2011 CS Top 25 Preseason Football Poll

1. Eastern Washington Eagles
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers
3. Montana State Bobcats
4. Georgia Southern Eagles
5. Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
6. Northern Iowa Panthers
7. William & Mary Tribe
8. Wofford Terriers
9. Montana Grizzlies
10. New Hampshire Wildcats
11. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12. Richmond Spiders
13. North Dakota State Bison
14. James Madison Dukes
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What's up fellas?


New to the board, glad to see a MVFC discussion.

What do you guys think of the Necks this year? We lost a lot offensively and defensively, with Barr, Lito, Glazier and very underrated Kretchman gone from last years squad.


We did get some good transfers, with a big NG Emeka Nwankwo from Notre Dame, a transfer from Air Force CB Martinez Davis, Ball State LB Theon Dixon, and a WR from New Mexico Myles Daughtry, I think we should have talent, but it may take some time to gel, and we may be extremely thin. I'm worried about our defense still, mostly due to how bad it has been the last few years.

Best of luck to you guys throughout the year.
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Good to see a WIU poster. :thumb:

I suspect Western will struggle, because of the great loss of talent. But I think they are pretty well coached, and could still be a tough out this year, as they build towards the future.
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Ive always thought WIU was one of the better teams in the league. Very competitive, always have good players and well coached. I think the visiting team has always won since NDSU and WIU started league play?
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Our bloggers had the Necks in the bottom tier of the conference this season due to the loss of Barr and Senatus:
http://letsgoguins.com/fan-blog/417-fan ... redictions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/ wrote:
Of all the FCS preseason polls I’ve seen, this is probably the most realistic for this reason: it takes into account the power of the top leagues in the division. I’m not sure who runs CS.com, but they seem to know their stuff. It’s a pretty good website with maps, blogs and stats, check it out sometime.

2011 CS Top 25 Preseason Football Poll

1. Eastern Washington Eagles
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers
3. Montana State Bobcats
4. Georgia Southern Eagles
5. Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
6. Northern Iowa Panthers
7. William & Mary Tribe
8. Wofford Terriers
9. Montana Grizzlies
10. New Hampshire Wildcats
11. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12. Richmond Spiders
13. North Dakota State Bison
14. James Madison Dukes
I don't see how Delaware could be at 5 after losing Pat Devlin, Walters & Bratton at DB. Richmond with Aaron Corp could be dangerous, but the Spiders also lose Parker (DT) & Rogers (DB) who were quite good for them. I would think William & Mary would be a top 5 team for sure. UNI at 6 seems a bittttt high in my opinion.
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By the way, over at College Football Performance Awards, they've got a phone interview with MVFC commissioner Patty Viverito.http://collegefootballperformance.com/o ... erformers/
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Official MVFC pre-season poll: https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/7768 ... M_ID=26200
2011 Valley Football Preseason Poll

Team (First-place votes) Points

1. UNI (29) 316

2. North Dakota State (6) 275

3. Southern Illinois (1) 207

4. South Dakota State 172

5. Illinois State 169

6. Indiana State 168

7. Western Illinois 151

8. Youngstown State 88

9. Missouri State 74
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alvin kayak wrote:
http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/ wrote:
Of all the FCS preseason polls I’ve seen, this is probably the most realistic for this reason: it takes into account the power of the top leagues in the division. I’m not sure who runs CS.com, but they seem to know their stuff. It’s a pretty good website with maps, blogs and stats, check it out sometime.

2011 CS Top 25 Preseason Football Poll

1. Eastern Washington Eagles
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers
3. Montana State Bobcats
4. Georgia Southern Eagles
5. Delaware Fightin’ Blue Hens
6. Northern Iowa Panthers
7. William & Mary Tribe
8. Wofford Terriers
9. Montana Grizzlies
10. New Hampshire Wildcats
11. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
12. Richmond Spiders
13. North Dakota State Bison
14. James Madison Dukes
I don't see how Delaware could be at 5 after losing Pat Devlin, Walters & Bratton at DB. Richmond with Aaron Corp could be dangerous, but the Spiders also lose Parker (DT) & Rogers (DB) who were quite good for them. I would think William & Mary would be a top 5 team for sure. UNI at 6 seems a bittttt high in my opinion.
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DJH wrote:Official MVFC pre-season poll: https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/7768 ... M_ID=26200
2011 Valley Football Preseason Poll

Team (First-place votes) Points

1. UNI (29) 316

2. North Dakota State (6) 275

3. Southern Illinois (1) 207

4. South Dakota State 172

5. Illinois State 169

6. Indiana State 168

7. Western Illinois 151

8. Youngstown State 88

9. Missouri State 74
Surprised about YSU... :? And Indiana State...AND SDSU...but other than that top 3 looks about right.
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Why are you shocked to see a 1 win team picked to finish 7th? You've been reading to many of guinefans posts
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First time in the MVFC we've been picked to finish last.
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clenz wrote:Why are you shocked to see a 1 win team picked to finish 7th? You've been reading to many of guinefans posts
Clenz, you can rip on me at the end of the season if I am wrong, but their is no way in hell we finish 8th in the league this year. 5th or better in my eyes. I just cannot fathom us being as bad as last year with MUCH more depth and MUCH better talent on defense.

Offense was young last year and is a year older. Watch out, they will be a handful yet again.
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MSUBear42 wrote:First time in the MVFC we've been picked to finish last.
poor bears no longer have Indiana State to keep them out of the cellar. :lol:
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clenz wrote:Why are you shocked to see a 1 win team picked to finish 7th? You've been reading to many of guinefans posts
Clenz, you can rip on me at the end of the season if I am wrong, but their is no way in hell we finish 8th in the league this year. 5th or better in my eyes. I just cannot fathom us being as bad as last year with MUCH more depth and MUCH better talent on defense.

Offense was young last year and is a year older. Watch out, they will be a handful yet again.
team should use it as bulletin board material/motivation to prove the pollsters wrong.
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Im not quite sure about the roster situation at YSU. I do think they can replace players and have a good eye for talent. I didnt think they were a bad team last year. They were an equal match for most teams in the league but had a hard time with the win. If they retain a lot of players its a calssic bubbling under situation. I think they are too low at #8.
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JBB assured us that NDSU was going to be picked to win the league. I'm dumbfounded that UNI was picked instead. :?

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This group has no "pedigree". Its a good guess but thats all, a guess. Look at the entire line-up. There are logical flaws from the top down. They do have a few teams placed correctly.
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YSU continues to pile up talent on defense:
http://letsgoguins.com/football/418-ysu ... s-williams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Second transfer from Miami, FL this off-season. Kid had offers to LSU, Penn State, Virginia Tech, among others. He joins a very deep corps at LB for the Penguins which includes Taylor Hill, former MVFC all-conference (Michigan transfer), Davion Rogers (Michigan transfer), and the likes of Thomas Sprague, Ali Cheaib, and oh yeah, the three guys that started last year.
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If my Birds dont figure out how to play defense, we will be right at the bottom...time will tell
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The top ranked defense in the MVC last year will be even better this year.
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I can't wait to see what Jewel Hampton does at the FCS level (Iowa transfer). I expect at least 90 rushing yards per game from him. Of course, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time someone underestimated the MVC (Minnesota)
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rebla 49er wrote:I can't wait to see what Jewel Hampton does at the FCS level (Iowa transfer). I expect at least 90 rushing yards per game from him. Of course, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time someone underestimated the MVC (Minnesota)
He's here because of bad knees I think, although Deji Karim came back from a bad knee...hope Jewell has a work ethic.
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guinzone wrote:
clenz wrote:Why are you shocked to see a 1 win team picked to finish 7th? You've been reading to many of guinefans posts
Clenz, you can rip on me at the end of the season if I am wrong, but their is no way in hell we finish 8th in the league this year. 5th or better in my eyes. I just cannot fathom us being as bad as last year with MUCH more depth and MUCH better talent on defense.

Offense was young last year and is a year older. Watch out, they will be a handful yet again.
The MVC as a whole was young last year. Most teams could be significantly better and have the same record as last year - not saying they will, but the potential is there.
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houndawg wrote:
guinzone wrote: Clenz, you can rip on me at the end of the season if I am wrong, but their is no way in hell we finish 8th in the league this year. 5th or better in my eyes. I just cannot fathom us being as bad as last year with MUCH more depth and MUCH better talent on defense.

Offense was young last year and is a year older. Watch out, they will be a handful yet again.
The MVC as a whole was young last year. Most teams could be significantly better and have the same record as last year - not saying they will, but the potential is there.
Yeah...he seems to forget that UNI was breaking in 7 or 8 new starters on offense, and 4 or 5 on defense, yet this year brings back 9 on both sides of the ball.....

Don't expect UNI to be as bad as we were last year.
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