BSC Poll: Most important offensive player?

[Jibjab]

And that changes what?? Nothing. Exactly. But I love how you all are still bitter about everything.

Bitter? Me? No,

Weber was'nt robbed a chance for a BSC title, not like NAU or the Griz.

Lol at robbed. According to who? You? And other big sky peeps? Your opinions and others, on what happen with those games, are as meaningless as the shit I flushed down the toilet this morning. Get over it. If you have that big of a problem about it, pm me.

[cats2506]

Ryan has been a good guy around here for quite some time. A relative noob has no business getting up in his business.

WTF, I am on Ryans side of that argument but this is just a stupid rule that you just made up.

[Wildcat Ryan]

Bitter? Me? No,

Weber was'nt robbed a chance for a BSC title, not like NAU or the Griz.

Lol at robbed. According to who? You? And other big sky peeps? Your opinions and others, on what happen with those games, are as meaningless as the **** I flushed down the toilet this morning. Get over it. If you have that big of a problem about it, pm me.

Why would I want to waste my time sending you a pm?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

this will not be popular with eagle fans, but the most important offensive player in the BSC plays for the oakland raiders. while i still think EWU is stacked, losing taiwan jones takes away a big dymanic from EWU. same could be said with MSU and orenzo davis, but davis and jones are hardly the same player. defensive coordinators had to gameplan for ONE player when playing EWU. now that that's gone, i think EWU's offense takes a small step back. don't fret eagle fans, you're still very much playoff bound.(and yes, i'm aware of what happened in december and january, but something tells me you're going to remind me anyway...victor/spoils)

to answer the question directly, denarius mcghee is the leagues most important offensive player. MSU goes as he goes.

Game plan for only one guy?? Yeah, I guess that's why BLM threw 37 TDs, and Kaufman caught 15 of them. Of course losing TJ takes away a big dynamic... he was a threat to score every time he touched the ball. That was an added bonus to an already strong team. Not many teams ever have a threat like TJ was for EWU. Now that he's gone, we're back to a more balanced team that still has many weapons. We just won't be scoring in two or three play drives. You act as if that TJ was the only play maker on the team...

[Screamin_Eagle174]

[AZGrizFan]

this will not be popular with eagle fans, but the most important offensive player in the BSC plays for the oakland raiders. while i still think EWU is stacked, losing taiwan jones takes away a big dymanic from EWU. same could be said with MSU and orenzo davis, but davis and jones are hardly the same player. defensive coordinators had to gameplan for ONE player when playing EWU. now that that's gone, i think EWU's offense takes a small step back. don't fret eagle fans, you're still very much playoff bound.(and yes, i'm aware of what happened in december and january, but something tells me you're going to remind me anyway...victor/spoils)

to answer the question directly, denarius mcghee is the leagues most important offensive player. MSU goes as he goes.

Game plan for only one guy?? Yeah, I guess that's why BLM threw 37 TDs, and Kaufman caught 15 of them. Of course losing TJ takes away a big dynamic... he was a threat to score every time he touched the ball. That was an added bonus to an already strong team. Not many teams ever have a threat like TJ was for EWU. Now that he's gone, we're back to a more balanced team that still has many weapons. We just won't be scoring in two or three play drives. You act as if that TJ was the only play maker on the team...

This guy scares the shit out of me.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Game plan for only one guy?? Yeah, I guess that's why BLM threw 37 TDs, and Kaufman caught 15 of them. Of course losing TJ takes away a big dynamic... he was a threat to score every time he touched the ball. That was an added bonus to an already strong team. Not many teams ever have a threat like TJ was for EWU. Now that he's gone, we're back to a more balanced team that still has many weapons. We just won't be scoring in two or three play drives. You act as if that TJ was the only play maker on the team...

This guy scares the shit out of me.

He's got a lot of playing time ahead of him. I hope that the addition of BLM's brother WR Cory Mitchell doesn't take away his targets. Both have outstanding hands, but Kaufman has the IT-factor. Kid will absolutely lay his body on the line to make the play.

[AZGrizFan]

This guy scares the shit out of me.

He's got a lot of playing time ahead of him. I hope that the addition of BLM's brother WR Cory Mitchell doesn't take away his targets. Both have outstanding hands, but Kaufman has the IT-factor. Kid will absolutely lay his body on the line to make the play.

After finally getting the chance to watch the NC game a couple weeks ago, I got nervous all over again for the 17th watching Kaufman play.

[SDHornet]

He's got a lot of playing time ahead of him. I hope that the addition of BLM's brother WR Cory Mitchell doesn't take away his targets. Both have outstanding hands, but Kaufman has the IT-factor. Kid will absolutely lay his body on the line to make the play.

After finally getting the chance to watch the NC game a couple weeks ago, I got nervous all over again for the 17th watching Kaufman play.

Don't use a 5'6" corner to defend him, it doesn't work.

[uofmman1122]

After finally getting the chance to watch the NC game a couple weeks ago, I got nervous all over again for the 17th watching Kaufman play.

Don't use a 5'6" corner to defend him, it doesn't work.

Don't worry.

We've got the best corner in FCS.

[mtjack]

At least Montana deserved to be in the championship, they didnt get the constant gifts, unlike a certain gold and blue team did against NAU, and then to get those same gifts in the championship.

It doesnt happen often, but I felt incrediblly bad for the GRIZ, nobody should have to play 2 teams at the same time.

The Big Sky probably told the refs to make sure the Bears made it to the finals so that they wouldnt lose money.

I was bitter for a few days but got over it. I don't hold the officiating in last season's hoops semis/finals against UNC's team, coaches or fan. I hold it against the refs themselves for getting caught up in the setting and giving UNC a +18 discrepancy in free throws. I don't see that being the case without Beitzel this coming year. I also don't see UNC and NAU having as good a hoops season as last year. Cameron Jones and Devon Beitzel types don't come along all that often in the Big Sky Conference.

[mtgrizfan4life]

I voted other. BSC and FCS football.......let me introduce you to Gerald Kemp. Rather it be as QB, or playing the role of "Slash" be prepared for his impact to be felt. BTW, Kemp is a pure athlete, with speed, size, and versatility, 6'2" 215 LBS, throws better than given credit for, and by the way has 4.4 speed. I heard 4.3, but I never believe that kind of speed until it is clocked by NFL scouts.

Of the players listed, I would go with McGhee. I am hoping Kemp and McGhee will both be healthy and starting come GRIZ/Cat week. What a show that will be.

[mtjack]

It's a toss up to vote for McGhee (MSU) or Moore (ISU). I think McGhee is more important to the point that if he's hurt/ineffective then MSU is up shit creek with all of the preseason expectations in place. But I see ISU having a tough time scoring many points unless they come from Moore. Quite the conundrum......guess I'll go with McGhee.

[BigSkyBears]

And that changes what?? Nothing. Exactly. But I love how you all are still bitter about everything.

Bitter? Me? No,

Weber was'nt robbed a chance for a BSC title, not like NAU or the Griz.

You know how big of a loser you keep sounding like when you keep making excuses like this? Months after and you still can't get over the fact that we won the Tourney and won the conference regular season. That means we were the best team in the conference. Get over it, loser.

[kittiekop]

I kind of took the opposite approach with this one. One of the big reasons both MSU and EWU had the success they had last year was because of the depth of their teams. Both DM and BLM are important to their offenses, sure, but both teams are loaded with other offensive talent that can keep their teams going if the star disappears. Neither would be the SAME team, but I don't think either team would fold either like some would like you to believe.

Being a Cat fan, I watched through spring practices and the spring scrimmage and came out impressed with the progress Grayson Galloway made having the entire spring to practice with the offense. Is Grayson another McGhee? No, but the kid is mobile, appears to be a smart QB, has a strong arm and throws a nice long ball. The backfield is more a "committee" approach than past years, but there is enough talent there and in the WR corps to keep the offense moving - even without DM.

I'm not up on who's in line at EWU behind BLM, but with returning experience in the backfield, and someone has already pointed out Kaufman catching passes, there would be a drop off without BLM, but EWU would keep clicking too.

I think teams like ISU without Moore and NCU without Orms would be in a tighter pinch without those players than either of the two front runners.

[SuperHornet]

What is wrong with me? I saw that name Kaufman and my brain immediately went to Rev. Napoleon Kaufman.

[SDHornet]

Don't use a 5'6" corner to defend him, it doesn't work.

Don't worry.

We've got the best corner in FCS.

So who will cover the other WR threats EWU has?

[cats2506]

I kind of took the opposite approach with this one. One of the big reasons both MSU and EWU had the success they had last year was because of the depth of their teams. Both DM and BLM are important to their offenses, sure, but both teams are loaded with other offensive talent that can keep their teams going if the star disappears. Neither would be the SAME team, but I don't think either team would fold either like some would like you to believe.

Being a Cat fan, I watched through spring practices and the spring scrimmage and came out impressed with the progress Grayson Galloway made having the entire spring to practice with the offense. Is Grayson another McGhee? No, but the kid is mobile, appears to be a smart QB, has a strong arm and throws a nice long ball. The backfield is more a "committee" approach than past years, but there is enough talent there and in the WR corps to keep the offense moving - even without DM.

I'm not up on who's in line at EWU behind BLM, but with returning experience in the backfield, and someone has already pointed out Kaufman catching passes, there would be a drop off without BLM, but EWU would keep clicking too.

I think teams like ISU without Moore and NCU without Orms would be in a tighter pinch without those players than either of the two front runners.

Good post, One thing I would add about MSU's backfield by committee, we were in the same position last year, a fairly large stable of backs just waiting for one to stand out. I have no doubt that one will step up as the season commences, last year it was about the 3rd game before OD really became the starter.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Don't worry.

We've got the best corner in FCS.

So who will cover the other WR threats EWU has?

The 5'6" corners.

[EWURanger]

Don't worry.

We've got the best corner in FCS.

So who will cover the other WR threats EWU has?

This guy.



Sorry, couldn't resist. All joking aside, Montana has probably the best secondary in the Big Sky, so it should be an interesting match-up there with our primary three receivers at 6'5, 6'3, and 6'3. Another guy to watch is going to be Cory Mitchell, Bo Levi's older brother who was a RS Freshman last year. Guy's been catching everything that's been thrown his way in Spring and Fall camps. He only goes 6'2 but he's got some incredible hands.

Also, people focus on Kaufman, but Edwards is another big play receiver. He'll be a Junior this year and made some clutch catches in the playoffs against NDSU, Nova, and in the Chipper. Probably the biggest one was the long fourth down conversion play he made over the middle where it bounced off his shoulder and into his hands to set EWU up with a TD to tie the game up. You also can't forget about Greg Herd and Tyler Hart. I'm really happy about where we're at with our receiving corp this year. The only thing I'd like to see different is to utilize our TE's a little more in the passing game this year than we did last. I'd like to see someone step up into a Nate Overbay type role this season. With a more mature group (2 or 3 Freshman last year) I think that will happen. There's some talent and size there (four of them are 6'5 and big dudes), but of course for that to happen we'll need solid productivity from our backs so it will be interesting to see how the running games progresses with no true home-run hitter like TJ but some very capable backs in Mario Brown, Demitrius Bronson, Dariell Beumonte, et al.

[catbooster]

What is wrong with me? I saw that name Kaufman and my brain immediately went to Rev. Napoleon Kaufman.

I've wondered the same thing...

[catbooster]

I kind of took the opposite approach with this one. One of the big reasons both MSU and EWU had the success they had last year was because of the depth of their teams. Both DM and BLM are important to their offenses, sure, but both teams are loaded with other offensive talent that can keep their teams going if the star disappears. Neither would be the SAME team, but I don't think either team would fold either like some would like you to believe.

Being a Cat fan, I watched through spring practices and the spring scrimmage and came out impressed with the progress Grayson Galloway made having the entire spring to practice with the offense. Is Grayson another McGhee? No, but the kid is mobile, appears to be a smart QB, has a strong arm and throws a nice long ball. The backfield is more a "committee" approach than past years, but there is enough talent there and in the WR corps to keep the offense moving - even without DM.

I'm not up on who's in line at EWU behind BLM, but with returning experience in the backfield, and someone has already pointed out Kaufman catching passes, there would be a drop off without BLM, but EWU would keep clicking too.

I think teams like ISU without Moore and NCU without Orms would be in a tighter pinch without those players than either of the two front runners.

Good post, One thing I would add about MSU's backfield by committee, we were in the same position last year, a fairly large stable of backs just waiting for one to stand out. I have no doubt that one will step up as the season commences, last year it was about the 3rd game before OD really became the starter.

Yep, I agree with both posts. But it is the pre-season, and until those back-ups or replacements actually play, it's all guesswork. We've probably all seen players who look great in practice, but never seem to do as well in a game, or vice-versa. I think the 'cats will be better this year than last, but we won't really know for awhile.

[Herky]

After finally getting the chance to watch the NC game a couple weeks ago, I got nervous all over again for the 17th watching Kaufman play.

Don't use a 5'6" corner to defend him, it doesn't work.

Damn Kyle Monson!

[Herky]

What is wrong with me?

A few things:

1) Most of what you post is typical of what a mental patient would scroll on the wall of their padded room with their own feces.

2) The ability to discern reality from delusions escapes you.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

So who will cover the other WR threats EWU has?

This guy.



Sorry, couldn't resist. All joking aside, Montana has probably the best secondary in the Big Sky, so it should be an interesting match-up there with our primary three receivers at 6'5, 6'3, and 6'3. Another guy to watch is going to be Cory Mitchell, Bo Levi's older brother who was a RS Freshman last year. Guy's been catching everything that's been thrown his way in Spring and Fall camps. He only goes 6'2 but he's got some incredible hands.

Also, people focus on Kaufman, but Edwards is another big play receiver. He'll be a Junior this year and made some clutch catches in the playoffs against NDSU, Nova, and in the Chipper. Probably the biggest one was the long fourth down conversion play he made over the middle where it bounced off his shoulder and into his hands to set EWU up with a TD to tie the game up. You also can't forget about Greg Herd and Tyler Hart. I'm really happy about where we're at with our receiving corp this year. The only thing I'd like to see different is to utilize our TE's a little more in the passing game this year than we did last. I'd like to see someone step up into a Nate Overbay type role this season. With a more mature group (2 or 3 Freshman last year) I think that will happen. There's some talent and size there (four of them are 6'5 and big dudes), but of course for that to happen we'll need solid productivity from our backs so it will be interesting to see how the running games progresses with no true home-run hitter like TJ but some very capable backs in Mario Brown, Demitrius Bronson, Dariell Beumonte, et al.

As incredible as Edward's long catch up the middle was... that was on 2nd down actually, after the two 4th down conversions by Tyler Hart and Greg Herd, respectively. I noticed that when I went back to rewatch the game a couple weeks ago.