dbackjon wrote:MrTitleist wrote:Jim O'Day can't hide now! A school that Montana views as its equal is going to make the jump!
Maybe, possibly, some day if they can find the conference, they will jump.
ASU has been doing what Montana SHOULD have been doing -getting facilities up to par, adding sports, etc.to be able to move up on THEIR schedule, if it works out.
A lot of fluff though, in that announcement. ASU hasn't really shown much athletically in DI outside of FCS Football.
Do not put ECU or Marshall in that Hot Mess....JMUpurplehazed wrote:Just say no to the Sunbelt...CUSA, things could be worse than that IMO...CUSA EAST: JMU/ODU/APPY/DE/Marshall/ECU/?/?>
Over the current situation? Yes.SDHornet wrote:The bigger question is "Will App State be happy with a Sun Belt invite?". Will this excite the fan base? What sayeth the App State posters?
No - Sun Belt blows, and CUSA is only marginally better. I'd sit tight until the right invite comes along, if ever and don't jump for the sake of jumping (but they didn't ask me.....).SDHornet wrote:The bigger question is "Will App State be happy with a Sun Belt invite?". Will this excite the fan base? What sayeth the App State posters?
Add Liberty to your CUSA East listJMUpurplehazed wrote:Just say no to the Sunbelt...CUSA, things could be worse than that IMO...CUSA EAST: JMU/ODU/APPY/DE/Marshall/ECU/?/?>
To me that only means two conferences - Big Sky and/or CAA.What conference will ASU wind up in if it moves to FBS?
Should Chancellor Peacock and the Board of Trustees ultimately approve the committee’s recommendation, Appalachian will consider all options when it comes to conference affiliation, whether it be existing FBS conferences or conferences with FBS aspirations. A suitable conference would have institutions that are similar to ASU both academically (in terms of enrollment and academic philosophy, athletically (in terms of revenue, facilities and success on the playing fields and in the classroom) and geographically, which will allow for formation of rivalries that are essential to the culture of college athletics.
No & no. Sun Belt blows unless it undergoes a major overhaul by adding JMU, GaSouth & Delaware...and that ain't happening....SDHornet wrote:The bigger question is "Will App State be happy with a Sun Belt invite?". Will this excite the fan base? What sayeth the App State posters?
But "conferences" can't move up, can they?danefan wrote:This is the most intersting part of this whole release to me:
To me that only means two conferences - Big Sky and/or CAA.What conference will ASU wind up in if it moves to FBS?
Should Chancellor Peacock and the Board of Trustees ultimately approve the committee’s recommendation, Appalachian will consider all options when it comes to conference affiliation, whether it be existing FBS conferences or conferences with FBS aspirations. A suitable conference would have institutions that are similar to ASU both academically (in terms of enrollment and academic philosophy, athletically (in terms of revenue, facilities and success on the playing fields and in the classroom) and geographically, which will allow for formation of rivalries that are essential to the culture of college athletics.
Wait. Did you just compare the Pac 12 to the SEC?alvin kayak wrote:The Big Sky is going to have 13 teams and wants to go to 16. If that happens the Big Sky could become the New SEC/Pac 12 of the FCS.
89Hen wrote:Wait. Did you just compare the Pac 12 to the SEC?alvin kayak wrote:The Big Sky is going to have 13 teams and wants to go to 16. If that happens the Big Sky could become the New SEC/Pac 12 of the FCS.
Besides, the Big Sky has too many Vanderbilts.
If the Big Sky could drop BACK down 9, I'd go with:89Hen wrote:Wait. Did you just compare the Pac 12 to the SEC?alvin kayak wrote:The Big Sky is going to have 13 teams and wants to go to 16. If that happens the Big Sky could become the New SEC/Pac 12 of the FCS.
Besides, the Big Sky has too many Vanderbilts.
URI will be gone and it's probably premature to put ODU in any discussions yet. And as you said, you can't ignore ISU, UNC, PSU, etc... they aren't going anywhere. The Yankee/A10/CAA has certainly been an adventure since UD joined. Prior to UD, UR, W&M, Nova, etc... the Yankee sucked. Sorry UMass fans. All those Yankee titles in the 70's and early 80's are pretty weak. The glory days for the CAA may have already come and gone, but as long as UD, JMU, UR, W&M... stick around, it should always be a great conference.AZGrizFan wrote:And really, when you look at that lineup, it's not much different than the CAA's Vanderbilts of Maine, Towson, Rhode Island and ODU. The real difference is the schools that can't compete in the CAA actually have OPTIONS.
Agreed.89Hen wrote:URI will be gone and it's probably premature to put ODU in any discussions yet. And as you said, you can't ignore ISU, UNC, PSU, etc... they aren't going anywhere. The Yankee/A10/CAA has certainly been an adventure since UD joined. Prior to UD, UR, W&M, Nova, etc... the Yankee sucked. Sorry UMass fans. All those Yankee titles in the 70's and early 80's are pretty weak. The glory days for the CAA may have already come and gone, but as long as UD, JMU, UR, W&M... stick around, it should always be a great conference.AZGrizFan wrote:And really, when you look at that lineup, it's not much different than the CAA's Vanderbilts of Maine, Towson, Rhode Island and ODU. The real difference is the schools that can't compete in the CAA actually have OPTIONS.
clenz wrote:Alabama-Birmingham - 1996 Sun Belt
Arkansas State - 1990 Sun Belt
Boise State - 1996 WAC
Central Florida - 1996 CUSA
Connecticut - 2000 Big East
FIU - 2005
Idaho - 1997 Sun Belt/WAC
Louisiana-Monroe - Sun Belt
Marshall - 1997 MAC/CUSA
Middle Tennessee State - 1999 Sun Belt
Nevada - 1992 WAC
North Texas - 1995 Sun Belt
Troy - 2002 Sun Belt
Western Kentucky - 2009 Sun Belt
Have fun with this new found respect you'll have by joining this group......
In demonstrating black, yellow, gold, lavender, blue & white looks as bad as it sounds.DJH wrote:And that is relevant how?
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnf ... /index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;- If Appalachian State University officials wanted to know how its recommendation to pursue a move to the Football Bowl Subdivision would be received, it occurred before - not after - the announcement was made on Monday.
By 4:30 a.m., the first three of about 600 students began lining up on campus to shell out $48 a ticket for the Mountaineers' season-opening game at Virginia Tech on Sept. 3.
Had the university allowed camping out the day before fall classes began on Tuesday, students would have pulled their first all-nighter of the semester.
Surely, big games and big bucks appear to be a part of ASU's future. For several years now, no program in the Football Championship Subdivision has been better suited for the jump to the FBS than the Southern Conference power.
It's probably a formality that ASU's chancellor and board of trustees will approve the recommendation of the 11-member athletics feasibility committee, which ended a seven-month study with Monday's announcement.
As ASU athletics director Charlie Cobb said on a conference call Tuesday, the university has to declare its intentions and then "figure out where the (college athletic) world's going."
To Cobb, the financial divide that exists in Division I athletics is not between the FBS and FCS, but between the BCS conferences and the rest of Division I.
So there's no doubt where ASU would want to be on that divide.
It's long been felt that ASU, the FCS national champion under head coach Jerry Moore for three straight years from 2005-07, has nothing else to prove on the level formerly known as NCAA Division I-AA and that it would move - or, according to official terms, "reposition" - to the FBS, presumably to Conference USA or, to a lesser degree, the Sun Belt Conference.
But when you consider ASU football wins as much as any Division I program, had an average regular-season attendance (29,449) last year that was higher than 43 FBS programs and has since expanded Kidd Brewer Stadium, may, just maybe, the university hopes an even bigger opportunity will come along - whether directly or in a two-step move of conferences.
You didn't need an earthquake on the Atlantic Coast on Tuesday to realize what conference would offer ASU the biggest and best opportunity.
"We look very much like an FBS program in a lot of different metrics," Cobb said.
"We have some aspirations if things were to go the right direction. We're going to work and see if we can identify some opportunities, but also I think part of the strategy frankly was to let people know that we have these aspirations and doing it in an official capacity."
"If we're going to contemplate a step like this and not be competitive in the future, it would be the silliest thing in the world," added G.A. Sywassink, the feasibility committee co-chairperson. "We think we can in fact do that or we wouldn't go ahead with this decision."
Cobb feels the difference between FCS programs that succeeded or didn't succeed after moving to the FBS level is in the way they built rivalries afterward, allowing alumni and fans to develop a connection to an entirely new set of opponents. Ultimately, that means people will pay the higher prices for the higher level of competition - ala Appalachian State-Virginia Tech.
The Mountaineers program could have natural rivalries in Conference USA such as East Carolina and Marshall. If it ever landed on the other side of the rainbow with an ACC pot of gold, there's potential rivalries with the likes of North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Wake Forest and Virginia Tech.
Sure dreams of the ACC might be far-fetched outside Boone, N.C., but did you believe in recent years that Nebraska would be hanging with Michigan and Ohio State instead of Oklahoma and Texas or that TCU would fit smack in the Big East?
So it's worth ASU's while to see how the Atlantic Coast turns, so to speak.
Cobb says the feasibility committee wanted to make its announcement before ASU's season opener and not distract from the season ahead. But opening with a game against Virginia Tech seems ideal to the level the Mountaineers aspire to reach in the future.
Didn't even have to wake up till 8:30. 
For most of the country, we were only relevant in the week or two post-Michigan.youngterrier wrote: If App makes the jump, they won't be relevant again for at least a decade IMO
Wait until the committee releases their full report... and you'll probably see the upside spelled out for you.youngterrier wrote:I honestly don't see what App has to gain from this outside of being in the FBS. I don't see the $$$ upside or the affiliation upside.
