Yes. A naturally occuring pollutant, like dust etc.Gil Dobie wrote:Is Carbon Dioxide a polutant?D1B wrote:
China just passed us as the world biggest polluter, last year. We are solid at #2. We use 25% of the world's energy.
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Better stop breathing there Gil Dobie.Gil Dobie wrote:Is Carbon Dioxide a polutant?D1B wrote:
China just passed us as the world biggest polluter, last year. We are solid at #2. We use 25% of the world's energy.
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So is O2 a pollutant too then, and every naturally occuring compound?dbackjon wrote:Yes. A naturally occuring pollutant, like dust etc.Gil Dobie wrote:
Is Carbon Dioxide a polutant?

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The liberals are in charge, so no nuke'sdbackjon wrote:Build more nuke plants. Problem solvedGil Dobie wrote:
You need to get an electric car, so we can build more coal power plants to produce the electricity for the cars.

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Obama is pro-nuclear.Gil Dobie wrote:The liberals are in charge, so no nuke'sdbackjon wrote: Build more nuke plants. Problem solved
He should be, he gets enough campaign contributions from Exelon.
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Do you have a link to Obama being pro nuclear?dbackjon wrote:Obama is pro-nuclear.Gil Dobie wrote:
The liberals are in charge, so no nuke's
He should be, he gets enough campaign contributions from Exelon.
He may not have taken it off the table, but I haven't seen him do anything to keep it on the table, and the lobbyist will keep it from happening via the Democrat Congress.

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I will look. I do know he was not pushing it as hard as McCain, but supported it.Gil Dobie wrote:Do you have a link to Obama being pro nuclear?dbackjon wrote:
Obama is pro-nuclear.
He should be, he gets enough campaign contributions from Exelon.
He may not have taken it off the table, but I haven't seen him do anything to keep it on the table, and the lobbyist will keep it from happening via the Democrat Congress.
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Uhhh, Gil, he publicly supported it. And, uhh, he's got a few issues to tackle right now. Be patient.Gil Dobie wrote:Do you have a link to Obama being pro nuclear?dbackjon wrote:
Obama is pro-nuclear.
He should be, he gets enough campaign contributions from Exelon.
He may not have taken it off the table, but I haven't seen him do anything to keep it on the table, and the lobbyist will keep it from happening via the Democrat Congress.
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American fat fukc consumers are partially responsible for the pollution in China. We have to have our cheap fukcing Wal Mart crap.Appaholic wrote:No proof, but I would find it hard to believe, given the current environmental laws in place in this country, that our industry is destroying this earth at a rate comparable to China's currently......maybe so, but I'd like to see evidence....I'm open-minded.....D1B wrote:
You sure about this, now? Maybe in the future, but we are the worst.
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Fok that......we have enough problems taking responsibility for our own problems, don't add theirs to ours.....nobody making them sell the cheap sh!t....all it takes is one whore company to compromise their values to satiate the beast of WalMart purchasing demands......D1B wrote:American fat fukc consumers are partially responsible for the pollution in China. We have to have our cheap fukcing Wal Mart crap.Appaholic wrote:
No proof, but I would find it hard to believe, given the current environmental laws in place in this country, that our industry is destroying this earth at a rate comparable to China's currently......maybe so, but I'd like to see evidence....I'm open-minded.....
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WaliWorld is the biggest, but Target and others are also big Chyna consumers.Appaholic wrote:Fok that......we have enough problems taking responsibility for our own problems, don't add theirs to ours.....nobody making them sell the cheap sh!t....all it takes is one whore company to compromise their values to satiate the beast of WalMart purchasing demands......

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Appaholic wrote:Fok that......we have enough problems taking responsibility for our own problems, don't add theirs to ours.....nobody making them sell the cheap sh!t....all it takes is one whore company to compromise their values to satiate the beast of WalMart purchasing demands......D1B wrote:
American fat fukc consumers are partially responsible for the pollution in China. We have to have our cheap fukcing Wal Mart crap.
Our problem is cultural. We're fat and lazy and don't think. We've allowed corporate america and hollywood to suck out all the meaning out of all our lives. We fill the void with self deception, pre occupation with others, unhealthy fantasy, consumer goods, porn, drugs and alcohol. This fact alone, not our military, makes us the most dangerous country in the history of the world.
Americans are retarded.
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You had this correct until the end. Americans are not retarded...they've allowed themselves to buy into the "consumer nation" subliminal message that comes at us from every direction, wherein the message of "self perception as consumer" (rather than producer) has not just become the norm, it's been adulated as an indicator of being successful.D1B wrote:Our problem is cultural. We're fat and lazy and don't think. We've allowed corporate america and hollywood to suck out all the meaning out of all our lives. We fill the void with self deception, pre occupation with others, unhealthy fantasy, consumer goods, porn, drugs and alcohol. This fact alone, not our military, makes us the most dangerous country in the history of the world.
Americans are retarded.
I have little respect for the Tom Sawyers of our society who master of the craft of laziness and angling how to get out of doing any work (or worse, craft ways of getting others to do the work they have been charged with).
American's need to return to the time when productivity was not just preferable, but a moral responsibility of every person: A return to a time when folks who sat around bragging about their unproductive lifestyles, working only a few days each week OR MONTH whilst spending most of their time recreating and simply placing their consumption of goods and time without contributing back to society, are shunned and mocked rather than envied.
America needs to be either learning, teaching or producing (which is not exclusive to manufacturing/AG/construction types of jobs. Anything avocation that gives back more than it consumes is inclusive.).
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travelinman67 wrote:You had this correct until the end. Americans are not retarded...they've allowed themselves to buy into the "consumer nation" subliminal message that comes at us from every direction, wherein the message of "self perception as consumer" (rather than producer) has not just become the norm, it's been adulated as an indicator of being successful.D1B wrote:Our problem is cultural. We're fat and lazy and don't think. We've allowed corporate america and hollywood to suck out all the meaning out of all our lives. We fill the void with self deception, pre occupation with others, unhealthy fantasy, consumer goods, porn, drugs and alcohol. This fact alone, not our military, makes us the most dangerous country in the history of the world.
Americans are retarded.
I have little respect for the Tom Sawyers of our society who master of the craft of laziness and angling how to get out of doing any work (or worse, craft ways of getting others to do the work they have been charged with).
American's need to return to the time when productivity was not just preferable, but a moral responsibility of every person: A return to a time when folks who sat around bragging about their unproductive lifestyles, working only a few days each week OR MONTH whilst spending most of their time recreating and simply placing their consumption of goods and time without contributing back to society, are shunned and mocked rather than envied.
America needs to be either learning, teaching or producing (which is not exclusive to manufacturing/AG/construction types of jobs. Anything avocation that gives back more than it consumes is inclusive.).
One of the wisest things I've seen you write so far, J.
Well said.
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Dude. You JUST described yourself.D1B wrote: Our problem is cultural. We're fat and lazy and don't think. We've allowed corporate america and hollywood to suck out all the meaning out of all our lives. We fill the void with self deception, pre occupation with others, unhealthy fantasy, consumer goods, porn, drugs and alcohol.
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You have not a clue.AZGrizFan wrote:Dude. You JUST described yourself.D1B wrote: Our problem is cultural. We're fat and lazy and don't think. We've allowed corporate america and hollywood to suck out all the meaning out of all our lives. We fill the void with self deception, pre occupation with others, unhealthy fantasy, consumer goods, porn, drugs and alcohol.![]()
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D1B wrote:You have not a clue.AZGrizFan wrote: Dude. You JUST described yourself.![]()
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What...it isn't true???
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Most of the time.Col Hogan wrote:D1B wrote:
You have not a clue.![]()
"Everything he (D1B) says is purely for effect" 2/5/2009 AZgrizfan to Col Hogan
What...it isn't true???
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Not trying to be picky, since I asked the question incorrectly...please selectD1B wrote:Most of the time.Col Hogan wrote:
What...it isn't true???
(1) It isn't true "Most of the time" that what I say is purely for effect
or
(2) Most of the time it is true that what I say is purely for effect...
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Watch out, AZ...the guy keeps a book of notable quotes on everyone...D1B wrote:You have not a clue.AZGrizFan wrote: Dude. You JUST described yourself.![]()
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...it's comes from all those days of Mod work...alongside all the "lawyers"..."You have to document D1B"..."always be making book on EVERYONE"...
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