"Minor-attracted adults..."

[andy7171]

How so?

Zealous? perhaps. Religous? uhhh, not really.

*you do realize we're horrifying close to having a nutjob fundamentalist christian or a fucking Mormon in the white house, right?

I'm doing the work and taking the hits for freedom and civil rights. Our greatest threat in the world is religion.

Did you get an iPhone or something? I thought you boobs were going fishing and we'd have a week off from this.

[kalm]

........ A family incurs a "debt" which their kidnapped underage daughter must "work off" in a brothel, but there are so many phony deductions from her portion of the john's "fee" that she is just about never able to pay it off. And if by some miracle she does, she's not welcome at home because she's immoral, so she pretty much has to go back to the brothel to even eat. Slavery, pure and simple.

Or, as a parallel argument, a country incurs a "debt" in which their upcoming generation must "work off" in ever increasing taxes. but there are so many phony government programs (i.e. redistributive policies) from their portion of taxation that they are just about never able to pay it off. And if by some miracle they do, these providers are not accepted by the political class because they are ideologically immoral, so much so that they are taxed out of business in the interests of political correctness. Slavery, pure and simple.

The Jack Abramoff scandal is an even better one. Tax cuts, bribery, manipulation of trade, outsourcing, and sex slaves all wrapped up into one neat package.

[Cap'n Cat]

I thought you boobs were going fishing and we'd have a week off from this.

Canceled. We're too busy. You get to enjoy us this week, after all.

[Wedgebuster]

AKA "Mormons."

[Cap'n Cat]

Here, I'll just cut to the chase for you, Tman:

[PedoBear]

Here, I'll just cut to the chase for you, Tman:

Katarina!!! Cap'n Cat are you part of the Adventurer's Club too?

[PedoBear]

Hard to believe this is real. Missed this a few weeks ago, but pullled it from several "reliable" sources...

Conference aims to normalize pedophilia

By John Rossomando - The Daily Caller Published: 10:00 AM 08/15

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/15/confe ... edophilia/

If a small group of psychiatrists and other mental health professionals have their way at a conference this week, pedophiles themselves could play a role in removing pedophilia from the American Psychiatric Association’s bible of mental illnesses — the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), set to undergo a significant revision by 2013. Critics warn that their success could lead to the decriminalization of pedophilia.

The August 17 Baltimore conference is sponsored by B4U-ACT, a group of pro-pedophile mental health professionals and sympathetic activists. According to the conference brochure, the event will examine “ways in which minor-attracted persons [pedophiles] can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process” and how the popular perceptions of pedophiles can be reframed to encourage tolerance.

Researchers from Harvard University, the Johns Hopkins University, the University of Louisville, and the University of Illinois will be among the panelists at the conference.

B4U-ACT has been active attacking the APA’s definition of pedophilia in the run up to the conference, denouncing its description of “minor-attracted persons” as “inaccurate” and “misleading” because the current DSM links pedophilia with criminality.

“It is based on data from prison studies, which completely ignore the existence of those who are law-abiding,” said Howard Kline, science director of B4U-ACT, in a July 25, 2011 press release. “The proposed new diagnostic criteria specify ages and frequencies with no scientific basis whatsoever.”

The press release announced a letter the group sent to the APA criticizing its approach, and inviting its leaders to participate in the August 17 conference. “The DSM should meet a higher standard than that,” Kline continued. “We can help them, because we are the people they are writing about.”

APA spokeswoman Erin Connors told The Daily Caller in an emailed statement that her organization was not participating in the conference and would not comment on its aims.

Child advocate Dr. Judith Reisman, a visiting professor at Liberty University’s School of Law, said the conference is part of a strategy to condition people into accepting pedophiles.

“The first thing they do is to get the public to divest from thinking of what the offender does criminally, to thinking of the offender’s emotional state, to think of him as thinking of his emotional state, [and] to empathize and sympathize,” Reisman said. “You don’t change the nation in one fell swoop; you have to change it by conditioning. The aim is to get them [pedophiles] out of prison.”

According to Reisman, empirical data show that pedophiles typically molest many children before finally being caught.

The Conference' brochure:

2011 Symposium



Pedophilia, Minor-Attracted Persons, and the DSM:
Issues and Controversies
Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Baltimore, MD

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Featured Speaker: Fred Berlin, M.D., Ph.D., founder, National Institute for the Study, Prevention and Treatment of Sexual Trauma; founder, Johns Hopkins Sexual Disorders Clinic

This day-long symposium will facilitate the exchange of ideas among researchers, scholars, mental health practitioners, and minor-attracted persons who have an interest in critical issues surrounding the entry for pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) of the American Psychiatric Association. The symposium will address critical issues in the following areas:

Scientific and philosophical issues related to the DSM entry on pedophilia and/or hebephilia
Effects of the DSM entry on stigma, availability of mental health services, and research
Ways in which minor-attracted persons can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process
It is crucial that the DSM be based on the most accurate and complete scientific information available, and on careful consideration of effects on the welfare of patients and society. This is especially true for the DSM entry on pedophilia; it has an enormous impact on the beliefs and practices of mental health professionals, the criminal justice system, the media, and the public. It also has a profound effect on adults and teenagers who are emotionally and sexually attracted to children or adolescents, on the availability of mental health services for them, and on relevant research.

The revision of DSM currently underway provides both the opportunity and the necessity to address fundamental issues surrounding the DSM entry for pedophilia. Numerous unresolved issues have been raised by scholars, researchers, and minor-attracted people. Controversy has arisen over scientific issues (e.g., the setting of diagnostic threshholds, the representativeness of forensic samples), philosophical issues (e.g., the definition of paraphilia, the nature of disorder, and whether hebephilia should be considered a disorder), and consequences of the DSM entry (e.g., its use in civil commitment hearings, its effects on stigma).

This symposium faciliates the interaction necessary for these issues to be addressed. The APA emphasizes that DSM revisions should involve the interaction of researchers from "diverse perspectives, disciplines, and areas of expertise" and be "sensitive to the needs of clinicians and their patients." Representatives from all of these groups will play important roles at this symposium.
Social workers and psychologists who attend will receive 6.0 continuting education units (CEUs).

If you have any questions, please contact science@b4uact.org or (443) 244-9920.

Rationalizing sexual assault of children?

Normal is normal. Nobody can control who they are attracted to. It's entirely normal and healthy.

[JohnStOnge]

Scientific and philosophical issues related to the DSM entry on pedophilia and/or hebephilia

I learned a new word.

[CID1990]

Scientific and philosophical issues related to the DSM entry on pedophilia and/or hebephilia

I learned a new word.

Is that someone who likes Jews?

[CitadelGrad]

I learned a new word.

Is that someone who likes Jews?

No. Those people are called Jews.

[CitadelGrad]

Here, I'll just cut to the chase for you, Tman:

Heads up, Cap'n. People are serving prison sentences for producing and distributing pics just like the one in your post. Under current U.S. law, images of even fully clothed children in sexually provocative poses and clothing are child pornography.

[Cap'n Cat]

Here, I'll just cut to the chase for you, Tman:

Heads up, Cap'n. People are serving prison sentences for producing and distributing pics just like the one in your post. Under current U.S. law, images of even fully clothed children in sexually provocative poses and clothing are child pornography.

Um, bullshit. I happen to know this picture was taken after she accidentally fell off those high heels at poolside. BTW, did you beat off to it before you posted that??

Provocative is a very nebulous concept.

[clenz]

Heads up, Cap'n. People are serving prison sentences for producing and distributing pics just like the one in your post. Under current U.S. law, images of even fully clothed children in sexually provocative poses and clothing are child pornography.

Um, bullshit. I happen to know this picture was taken after she accidentally fell off those high heels at poolside. BTW, did you beat off to it before you posted that??

Provocative is a very nebulous concept.

It is a very nebulous concept, however, when it comes to CP the government considers pretty much everything CP....

[D1B]

Um, bullshit. I happen to know this picture was taken after she accidentally fell off those high heels at poolside. BTW, did you beat off to it before you posted that??

Provocative is a very nebulous concept.

It is a very nebulous concept, however, when it comes to CP the government considers pretty much everything CP....

Agree.

Wonder if the government has ever watched Toddler's & Tiaras on TLC, or taken a closer look at the child beauty pageant industry? Parents, dressing their daughters up to look like whores, for a national TV audience. Shits almost as bad as forcing your children into religion. Both are child abuse.

[clenz]

It is a very nebulous concept, however, when it comes to CP the government considers pretty much everything CP....

Agree.

Wonder if the government has ever watched Toddler's & Tiaras on TLC, or taken a closer look at the child beauty pageant industry? Parents, dressing their daughters up to look like whores, for a national TV audience. Shits almost as bad as forcing your children into religion. Both are child abuse.

I wouldn't call Toddlers and Tiaras CP, but it's definitely abuse.

[D1B]

Agree.

Wonder if the government has ever watched Toddler's & Tiaras on TLC, or taken a closer look at the child beauty pageant industry? Parents, dressing their daughters up to look like whores, for a national TV audience. Shits almost as bad as forcing your children into religion. Both are child abuse.

I wouldn't call Toddlers and Tiaras CP, but it's definitely abuse.

According to CitGrad's (and your) definition, and a growing number of rightfully concerned people, it is.

http://onlinenewswebsite.com/toddlers-a ... ls/109581/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A marginally popular cable reality show is creating ample controversy after airing a show last week that showed a 3-year-old girl dressed as a prostitute.

The TLC show “Toddlers and Tiaras” follows mothers who enroll their female children – sometimes as young as 2 – in child beauty pageants. Although the subject of controversy since it first aired, the show crossed a line, some believe, after last week’s episode, in which a 3-year-old girl was shown at a pageant dressed as Julia Roberts from the popular 1990 film, “Pretty Woman.” Roberts plays a prostitute in the film, and the outfit was a reproduction of her attire, including a midriff-exposing tank top, blue miniskirt and above-knee leather boots.

[Cap'n Cat]

Agree.

Wonder if the government has ever watched Toddler's & Tiaras on TLC, or taken a closer look at the child beauty pageant industry? Parents, dressing their daughters up to look like whores, for a national TV audience. Shits almost as bad as forcing your children into religion. Both are child abuse.

I wouldn't call Toddlers and Tiaras CP, but it's definitely abuse.

Toddlers and Tiaras is worse than the pic I posted. At best it's the same.

Move on.

[clenz]

I wouldn't call Toddlers and Tiaras CP, but it's definitely abuse.

According to CitGrad's (and your) definition, and a growing number of rightfully concerned people, it is.

http://onlinenewswebsite.com/toddlers-a ... ls/109581/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A marginally popular cable reality show is creating ample controversy after airing a show last week that showed a 3-year-old girl dressed as a prostitute.

The TLC show “Toddlers and Tiaras” follows mothers who enroll their female children – sometimes as young as 2 – in child beauty pageants. Although the subject of controversy since it first aired, the show crossed a line, some believe, after last week’s episode, in which a 3-year-old girl was shown at a pageant dressed as Julia Roberts from the popular 1990 film, “Pretty Woman.” Roberts plays a prostitute in the film, and the outfit was a reproduction of her attire, including a midriff-exposing tank top, blue miniskirt and above-knee leather boots.

I diidn't see that episode, nor do I plan too. I've saw one episode and it was not my choice. I vowed to never watch it again

[D1B]

According to CitGrad's (and your) definition, and a growing number of rightfully concerned people, it is.

http://onlinenewswebsite.com/toddlers-a ... ls/109581/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I diidn't see that episode, nor do I plan too. I've saw one episode and it was not my choice. I vowed to never watch it again

Well then wake TBH the fuck up and get her to weigh in. I thought you were an expert in this shit.

[Cap'n Cat]

Hey, assholes, just because that pic came from a website called HugeBlackDicksCreamingPreteenPanties.com, doesn't mean she's underage!!

WTF?

[clenz]

I diidn't see that episode, nor do I plan too. I've saw one episode and it was not my choice. I vowed to never watch it again

Well then wake up TBH the fuck up and get her to weigh in. I thought you were an expert in this shit.

She's been at work since 7 this morning. This is my day off.

[D1B]

Well then wake up TBH the fuck up and get her to weigh in. I thought you were an expert in this shit.

She's been at work since 7 this morning. This is my day off.

Ahh, the day off.....I forget what that is like....

[bluehenbillk]

As I get older it gets more difficult to tell if a girl is 16 or 18 or 21. Just ask Mark "Dirty" Sanchez......

[Cap'n Cat]

She's been at work since 7 this morning. This is my day off.

Ahh, the day off.....I forget what that is like....

I haven't................

[Ibanez]

Is this John St.Onge's pride and joy?