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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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Hosting Gameday is one thing. Having the game televised on a prime channel can be something else. There is really no reason they can't host Gameday at an FCS site while having the game televised, at best, on ESPNU. Can't shoot for the sky here. Hell, I would take ESPN3 if an FCS campus could host the weekly circlejerk from those 3 meatheads.

With that, it will need to be a big game hosted by a campus with at least 20,000 students, and a stadium capacity of at least 15,000. The campus has to be within 1 hour of a decent sized airport, so they can scramble to broadcast a night game. At least one of the schools will need a national name (Sorry JBB and lakes), preferably both.

Montana / ASU is the clear cut winner. I think JMU or Delaware could pull this off. UNI and SIU maybe, but there are issues there.
If I were to offer a 2012 Old Dominion home game it would be against Delaware.

I really don't think the host list could possibly exceed 10 schools. Probably more like the 7 I mentioned (excluding the HBCU's from consideration since they already have their annual day on network TV). The military schools would provide a good backdrop. I'm on the fence with a Citadel-VMI matchup. May have to hire some good looking female cheerleaders for a day.
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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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I would not pick the Montana/App game for one reason only. App is moving up and that is all they would talk about. I would pick Cat/griz or one of the Ivy League games. College Game Day is all about stories, rivalries, and ratings. Those games would add all those things together.
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Doesn't Gameday go to Williams - Amhearst every other year or so?
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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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SACCAT wrote:I would not pick the Montana/App game for one reason only. App is moving up and that is all they would talk about. I would pick Cat/griz or one of the Ivy League games. College Game Day is all about stories, rivalries, and ratings. Those games would add all those things together.
I didn't choose an Ivy because the game would not provide a preview to a playoff team. ESPN would hit a home run if at least one of the teams reached an ESPN telecast playoff game. The payoff being the familiarity that the casual football fan might have for the team(s) once the playoff game aired.
But sure, you can easily find a storied matchup within the Ivies. (Flintstones Episode: Prinstone vs. Shale playing for the Poison Ivy Title in a game played at the Rose Boulder. Fred Flinstone helped Prinstone win 20-19. Yeah, I remember weird sh*t like that.).
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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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CAA Flagship wrote:
SACCAT wrote:I would not pick the Montana/App game for one reason only. App is moving up and that is all they would talk about. I would pick Cat/griz or one of the Ivy League games. College Game Day is all about stories, rivalries, and ratings. Those games would add all those things together.
I didn't choose an Ivy because the game would not provide a preview to a playoff team. ESPN would hit a home run if at least one of the teams reached an ESPN telecast playoff game. The payoff being the familiarity that the casual football fan might have for the team(s) once the playoff game aired.
But sure, you can easily find a storied matchup within the Ivies. (Flintstones Episode: Prinstone vs. Shale playing for the Poison Ivy Title in a game played at the Rose Boulder. Fred Flinstone helped Prinstone win 20-19. Yeah, I remember weird sh*t like that.).
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That does make sense. I think they should do a "Special" gameday from one of the Playoff games. There is no College gameday after Nov 17th I don't think, so why not bring it back for a QF or Semi game when no other football is on.
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Considering the number of FCS programs and locations, wonder if the viewership would be there if ESPN did a weekly 30-60 min FCS week in review through the football season. If nothing else, they could air it at 3AM, and we could all record it. They'd have to find one of their own willing to get knowledgeable enough......oh, forget it.
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green&gold75 wrote:Considering the number of FCS programs and locations, wonder if the viewership would be there if ESPN did a weekly 30-60 min FCS week in review through the football season. If nothing else, they could air it at 3AM, and we could all record it. They'd have to find one of their own willing to get knowledgeable enough......oh, forget it.
Yep. That's where your idea goes off the rails. :ohno:
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SACCAT wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I didn't choose an Ivy because the game would not provide a preview to a playoff team. ESPN would hit a home run if at least one of the teams reached an ESPN telecast playoff game. The payoff being the familiarity that the casual football fan might have for the team(s) once the playoff game aired.
But sure, you can easily find a storied matchup within the Ivies. (Flintstones Episode: Prinstone vs. Shale playing for the Poison Ivy Title in a game played at the Rose Boulder. Fred Flinstone helped Prinstone win 20-19. Yeah, I remember weird sh*t like that.).
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That does make sense. I think they should do a "Special" gameday from one of the Playoff games. There is no College gameday after Nov 17th I don't think, so why not bring it back for a QF or Semi game when no other football is on.
I want to believe that.

But remember... ESPN/ABC owns the rights to 90% of the Bowls... and while they have the Semi's and the NC game... they have no vested interest in promoting the playoffs as a concept. (as I see it)
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AZGrizFan wrote:
green&gold75 wrote:Considering the number of FCS programs and locations, wonder if the viewership would be there if ESPN did a weekly 30-60 min FCS week in review through the football season. If nothing else, they could air it at 3AM, and we could all record it. They'd have to find one of their own willing to get knowledgeable enough......oh, forget it.
Yep. That's where your idea goes off the rails. :ohno:
Thing is - a weekly FCS preview show and a Saturday night wrap-up show on ESPN3 would be cheap to produce and a way to get green talent programming experience... (I'm thinking Cassidy Hubbarth as host and a couple of former jocks/coaches as analysts - it's not like there's a shortage of guys looking for those gigs)
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Is it pie-in-the-sky? probably. but I think there's a market for it - and I think it could work in this kind of limited environment.
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Georgia Southern at Wofford would be a good one just because of the playoff implications
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Re: College Gameday 4 FCS

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youngterrier wrote:Georgia Southern at Wofford would be a good one just because of the playoff implications
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Let's go through the checklist.
Good teams. :nod:
Large student body. :ohno:
Large stadium. :ohno: (Meh. That may not be a factor but for a backdrop)
Airport near. :nod:
National name. :ohno:

While it would be a game between two of the best FCS teams, I just don't see the appeal for the average viewer, and/or ESPN.
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corso and herb are jack asses. they have no respect for non bcs conferneces so why would they respect fcs? they talk so much crap on boise. it bothers me. i quit waching their show last yr after watching every week for 5-6 yrs. they would just call the fcs match up the cupcake matchup of the week. :thumbdown:
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in 2008 during the fcs 1st rd, gameday made one prediction about an fcs game. i almost fell out of my seat due to confusion. they picked cal poly to beat weber state. and they even said weber right, no webber. maybe because cal poly had that close one they should have won at wisconsin. they almost got that prediction right.
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I think Montana vs APP St is the only option for now. If it were to happen and be a success, I think they could look to other options in the future. Although this probably won't happen in the near future, it's still fun to think about :nod:
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Strommer10 wrote:I think Montana vs APP St is the only option for now. If it were to happen and be a success, I think they could look to other options in the future. Although this probably won't happen in the near future, it's still fun to think about :nod:
I'm sure most would agree on that matchup being the best. The debate is, what other schools would be worthy of hosting? There is a great danger in this though. This could be a case where the rich get richer. Many FBS transfers tend to go "home" when they make the move to FCS. But if the perception of the televised FCS programs grew, we could see an imbalance of talent more than we already see from the scholarship inequities.
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CAA Flagship wrote:The debate is, what other schools would be worthy of hosting?
I think more could host than you think. They would just keep the setting small, pack it with fans and students and it would look fine. Cripes, they did Amherst at Williams one time. There's lot of great backstories almost anywhere. :nod:

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Strommer10 wrote:I think Montana vs APP St is the only option for now. If it were to happen and be a success, I think they could look to other options in the future. Although this probably won't happen in the near future, it's still fun to think about :nod:
I'm sure most would agree on that matchup being the best. The debate is, what other schools would be worthy of hosting? There is a great danger in this though. This could be a case where the rich get richer. Many FBS transfers tend to go "home" when they make the move to FCS. But if the perception of the televised FCS programs grew, we could see an imbalance of talent more than we already see from the scholarship inequities.
Thats a good point. But coming from my perspective at NDSU, I am not sure when the last time, if ever, we have had a FBS transfer... I could be wrong. We are doing just fine without those types of players. I also feel FBS transfers won't just go to say APP St/MONT, becuase of one show out of the year. They come to the FCS because they want to play right away. If a school is deep at their postition, they most likely won't transfer there. So I don't think it will have the extreme impact that you may think it would.
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Strommer10 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I'm sure most would agree on that matchup being the best. The debate is, what other schools would be worthy of hosting? There is a great danger in this though. This could be a case where the rich get richer. Many FBS transfers tend to go "home" when they make the move to FCS. But if the perception of the televised FCS programs grew, we could see an imbalance of talent more than we already see from the scholarship inequities.
Thats a good point. But coming from my perspective at NDSU, I am not sure when the last time, if ever, we have had a FBS transfer... I could be wrong. We are doing just fine without those types of players. I also feel FBS transfers won't just go to say APP St/MONT, becuase of one show out of the year. They come to the FCS because they want to play right away. If a school is deep at their postition, they most likely won't transfer there. So I don't think it will have the extreme impact that you may think it would.
I don't know. Let's say they see 25,000 at Montana. While much smaller than 60,000 plus as seen at most BCS schools, a transfer may realize a bigger difference from 25,000 as compared to 5,000. So a Big Sky school, if not Montana, may be something he looks at versus a Big South school. The CAA has gotten a lot of QB's lately. If it wasn't because of the school, it may have been because of the conference.
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CAA Flagship wrote:The CAA has gotten a lot of QB's lately. If it wasn't because of the school, it may have been because of the conference.
I'm not sure we've had more than our share. UD had a run of them, but who else? I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but Corps @ UR and Paulus at W&M are the only others I can think of. More of the higher profile transfer QB's went to other conferences.
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89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:The CAA has gotten a lot of QB's lately. If it wasn't because of the school, it may have been because of the conference.
I'm not sure we've had more than our share. UD had a run of them, but who else? I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but Corps @ UR and Paulus at W&M are the only others I can think of. More of the higher profile transfer QB's went to other conferences.
We had a kid from Washington, by way of a JUCO, who redshirted last year but saw he wasn't going to beat out DeMarco so he went to Idaho so he could sit out a year there. :roll: He has 1 year of eligibility left.
I was thinking JMU had someone also?
I guess it is wrong to look at just FBS transfers. There are JUCO's and those that are abandoned like what happened at Hofstra and NU. Didn't a lot of their better players stay in the conference? We got two in Mayo and Cameron from Hofstra. Probst went to URI. Not sure about the rest.
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CAA Flagship wrote:We had a kid from Washington, by way of a JUCO, who redshirted last year but saw he wasn't going to beat out DeMarco so he went to Idaho so he could sit out a year there. :roll: He has 1 year of eligibility left.
I was thinking JMU had someone also?
I guess it is wrong to look at just FBS transfers. There are JUCO's and those that are abandoned like what happened at Hofstra and NU. Didn't a lot of their better players stay in the conference? We got two in Mayo and Cameron from Hofstra. Probst went to URI. Not sure about the rest.
Why wrong to only look at I-A transfers? They are often perceived as the difference makers (even though often they are not). There are teams that historically take in a lot of transfers (looking at you Chattanooga) but I don't think the CAA takes in more (per team) than any of the other power conferences.
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89Hen wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:We had a kid from Washington, by way of a JUCO, who redshirted last year but saw he wasn't going to beat out DeMarco so he went to Idaho so he could sit out a year there. :roll: He has 1 year of eligibility left.
I was thinking JMU had someone also?
I guess it is wrong to look at just FBS transfers. There are JUCO's and those that are abandoned like what happened at Hofstra and NU. Didn't a lot of their better players stay in the conference? We got two in Mayo and Cameron from Hofstra. Probst went to URI. Not sure about the rest.
Why wrong to only look at I-A transfers? They are often perceived as the difference makers (even though often they are not). There are teams that historically take in a lot of transfers (looking at you Chattanooga) but I don't think the CAA takes in more (per team) than any of the other power conferences.
I'm just saying that there is talent from JUCO's. Kids end up there for a variety of reasons. We got DeMarco (who had an offer from the other SDSU (Aztecs) to punt but he wanted to be a QB and went the JUCO route. Then there was the kid I mentioned by way of UWash. Other kids may have FBS talent but not grades so they go JUCO to get their grades up. Other JUCO's may have gone to a high school where they were "not found", out of position, or not developed enough. But after a year or two at a JUCO program, they may have developed at the appropriate position to the point where they have valuable talent for any program.

Let's face it. Maybe half of an FBS roster is interchangeable with the top 1/3 of an FCS roster at a lot of schools. That's why we see FCS players in the NFL. I think some JUCO players can be viewed in the same manner.
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