2 UM football players tased and arrested

[Mvemjsunpx]

#3? There was the Kaimin story thing from 2009, but what was the other?

Sorry. I don't have links. Perhaps my memory is not all that good, but I kind of remember him getting into trouble 2 times before this incident. Sorry if I piss you off with misinformation but...it is MY opinion/remembering. I have never said that that I have all of the information.

CS posters. Please disregarrd my posts. It is nothing but MY OPINION and nothing can be trusted from it. Sorry.

I was asking because I have no idea. Something could have happened, I just haven't been paying close attention to that type of stuff.

[grizzaholic]

Sorry. I don't have links. Perhaps my memory is not all that good, but I kind of remember him getting into trouble 2 times before this incident. Sorry if I piss you off with misinformation but...it is MY opinion/remembering. I have never said that that I have all of the information.

CS posters. Please disregarrd my posts. It is nothing but MY OPINION and nothing can be trusted from it. Sorry.

I was asking because I have no idea. Something could have happened, I just haven't been paying close attention to that type of stuff.

I just figured, since you are the resident GRIZ guy, you would know. You know more than most, well...ReMax maybe, but you follow more than I do. Just sayin'. Hope you are right, but.....

I still stick by my thoughts on the issue...both should be suspended through the end of the season at the very least.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Here's what I think UM should do in response to this:


1. Suspend Tru & Kemp for the Weber game & maybe the WOU game because of the PR embarrassment, partying after 2:00 AM (if that is, in fact, a team/athletic department rule violation), and anything else that is a violation & is known to have occurred/has been admitted to.

2. The two players are pleading not guilty & fighting the charges; trial scheduled for February. I think it would be unfair to suspend them for these specific issues now unless the school's own investigation finds that they are definitely guilty. If they are found not guilty, they can't exactly get those games back.

3. If Kemp is found guilty in the winter/spring, throw the book at him & give him a multi-game suspension for 2012. The length being based on how many charges he's convicted of.

4. Trumaine is a senior, so it's hard to do much after the fact if he's found guilty. He is an NFL prospect, though, so the school I believe could forbid him from taking part in UM's Pro Day talent evaluation.

[grizzaholic]

Here's what I think UM should do in response to this:


1. Suspend Tru & Kemp for the Weber game & maybe the WOU game because of the PR embarrassment, partying after 2:00 AM (if that is, in fact, a team/athletic department rule violation), and anything else that is a violation & is known to have occurred/has been admitted to.

2. The two players are pleading not guilty & fighting the charges; trial scheduled for February. I think it would be unfair to suspend them for these specific issues now unless the school's own investigation finds that they are definitely guilty. If they are found not guilty, they can't exactly get those games back.

3. If Kemp is found guilty in the winter/spring, throw the book at him & give him a multi-game suspension for 2012. The length being based on how many charges he's convicted of.

4. Trumaine is a senior, so it's hard to do much after the fact if he's found guilty. He is an NFL prospect, though, so the school I believe could forbid him from taking part in UM's Pro Day talent evaluation.

Suspend them both TOMORROW for the remainder of the season. IF, and IF, they decide to go to trial now/plead out now or whatnot they might get to play in the playoffs IF the Griz make it. MAYBE. And that would be being generous.

[Northcoast]

The sad part is that the griz fans and community will not force the admin to do anything, because they just want to win. The bobcat fans demanded major action and Kramer was let go when we had problems several years ago. Then the griz had there big issues shortly after and there was scarcely a peep from the community. Hauck was not fired, or even given a hand slap. Hence where we are today with more arrests at UM and what appears to be no major changes. Just win baby!

[grizzaholic]

The sad part is that the griz fans and community will not force the admin to do anything, because they just want to win. The bobcat fans demanded major action and Kramer was let go when we had problems several years ago. Then the griz had there big issues shortly after and there was scarcely a peep from the community. Hauck was not fired, or even given a hand slap. Hence where we are today with more arrests at UM and what appears to be no major changes. Just win baby!

HEY MOTHERFUCKER. Don't you go lumping all GRIZ fans into the same bunch you see on EGRIZ. I have voiced my opinion on this, and previous matters, to the ADMIN's.

People don't think this type of shit is OK. If you think so, you need to go have your head examined.

[kcatz]

Never played, no...but he was a member of the Cats team until he admittedly committed two felonies. Why are Cats fans discussing how Griz players should be disciplined

No he was NOT a student at MSU. He was never a "member' of the Bobcat football team nor was he ever a student at MSU.

[Mvemjsunpx]

The sad part is that the griz fans and community will not force the admin to do anything, because they just want to win. The bobcat fans demanded major action and Kramer was let go when we had problems several years ago. Then the griz had there big issues shortly after and there was scarcely a peep from the community. Hauck was not fired, or even given a hand slap. Hence where we are today with more arrests at UM and what appears to be no major changes. Just win baby!

Kramer was primarily canned because MSU's APR tanked under his leadership. They couldn't afford any more scholarship losses. The Gatewood arrest was more of a convenient excuse for his firing.

He shouldn't have been fired at that time, IMO. Firing a head coach after spring ball is stupid unless he, himself, does something egregious. The MSU administration should have at least waited until the end of the '07 season.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Never played, no...but he was a member of the Cats team until he admittedly committed two felonies. Why are Cats fans discussing how Griz players should be disciplined

No he was NOT a student at MSU. He was never a "member' of the Bobcat football team nor was he ever a student at MSU.

Wow, you signed up and used your first post for that? Defensive much?

[JALMOND]

I still think everyone is overreacting a bit here. The key for me is that both pled not guilty and a trial is scheduled after the season. As many of my Duck friends would say, they have not been convicted of anything. The university walks a fine line here as we are still innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That does include college kids. Do you think Johnson, if his case is dismissed for whatever reason in February, would consider suing the school based on the grounds that it hurt his draft stock by being forced to sit out the rest of the season? If the school wants to suspend them for being out after 2am, that is fine, but knowing college kids as I do , I'd be willing to bet that Johnson and Kemp have not been the only football players this season to still be out after 2am.

The safe bet is to keep both on the team for now and decide on some sort of punishment after the trial, if they are found guilty.

[CatBlitz22]

Never played, no...but he was a member of the Cats team until he admittedly committed two felonies. Why are Cats fans discussing how Griz players should be disciplined

No he was NOT a student at MSU. He was never a "member' of the Bobcat football team nor was he ever a student at MSU.

This.

[jcu27]

The cops instantly noticed they were black and were destined to hurt them.

The cop said instantly raged noticing how white people were around hanging out with these folk. He had a disgusted look on his face, like he needed to diarhea all over himself. He quickly grabbed a whip and started whipping TJ, Kemp got in and distracted them for awhile. Things were getting out of hand so Tru quickly grabbed the officers nipple and twisted it as hard as he could. The officer was frightened, never witnessing any horrific acts such like this. So scared they had no other thing to do than tase them.

[grizcountry420]

Nothing will happen until the court has gone through its process.. Inncocent until proven guilty right? I know some of you are calling for their heads but to if they werent athletes from a small community this crap wouldnt have even been news worthy.. These are misdemeanor charges, no different than getting a speeding ticket.. Theres all sorts of stories out there, so im gonna sit back an let it all play out..

[Grizalltheway]

The cops instantly noticed they were black and were destined to hurt them.

The cop said instantly raged noticing how white people were around hanging out with these folk. He had a disgusted look on his face, like he needed to diarhea all over himself. He quickly grabbed a whip and started whipping TJ, Kemp got in and distracted them for awhile. Things were getting out of hand so Tru quickly grabbed the officers nipple and twisted it as hard as he could. The officer was frightened, never witnessing any horrific acts such like this. So scared they had no other thing to do than tase them.

Go back to eGriz, you dumb shit troll.

[griz8791]

The cops instantly noticed they were black and were destined to hurt them.

The cop said instantly raged noticing how white people were around hanging out with these folk. He had a disgusted look on his face, like he needed to diarhea all over himself. He quickly grabbed a whip and started whipping TJ, Kemp got in and distracted them for awhile. Things were getting out of hand so Tru quickly grabbed the officers nipple and twisted it as hard as he could. The officer was frightened, never witnessing any horrific acts such like this. So scared they had no other thing to do than tase them.

Posting style doesn't quite match. I doubt this is the real jcu27.

[mlbowl]

He was never a "member' of the Bobcat football team

Really??? Why did they have to dismiss him if he was never a member of the program, smart guy?

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp ... 03286.html

[mlbowl]

Theres all sorts of stories out there, so im gonna sit back an let it all play out..

Yes, there are...I wasn't there so obviously I don't know a whole lot...what I do know is that the defense has a few witnesses that were at this party and claim it didn't go down quite like the officers reported.

[Grizalltheway]

The cops instantly noticed they were black and were destined to hurt them.

The cop said instantly raged noticing how white people were around hanging out with these folk. He had a disgusted look on his face, like he needed to diarhea all over himself. He quickly grabbed a whip and started whipping TJ, Kemp got in and distracted them for awhile. Things were getting out of hand so Tru quickly grabbed the officers nipple and twisted it as hard as he could. The officer was frightened, never witnessing any horrific acts such like this. So scared they had no other thing to do than tase them.

Posting style doesn't quite match. I doubt this is the real jcu27.

Shit, I took that hook, line and sinker, didn't I?

[jcu27]

The cops instantly noticed they were black and were destined to hurt them.

The cop said instantly raged noticing how white people were around hanging out with these folk. He had a disgusted look on his face, like he needed to diarhea all over himself. He quickly grabbed a whip and started whipping TJ, Kemp got in and distracted them for awhile. Things were getting out of hand so Tru quickly grabbed the officers nipple and twisted it as hard as he could. The officer was frightened, never witnessing any horrific acts such like this. So scared they had no other thing to do than tase them.

Posting style doesn't quite match. I doubt this is the real jcu27.

Actually, it is.

[CatBlitz22]

He was never a "member' of the Bobcat football team

Really??? Why did they have to dismiss him if he was never a member of the program, smart guy?

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sp ... 03286.html

All they did was release him from his scholarship and LOI. Never started class or practice. You dumbass griz fans would be making the same argument if it were your recruit. Quit trying to justify your own current player's ineptitude with someone who never even came to Bozeman minus a recruit visit.

[mlbowl]

All they did was release him from his scholarship and LOI. Never started class or practice. You dumbass griz fans would be making the same argument if it were your recruit. Quit trying to justify your own current player's ineptitude with someone who never even came to Bozeman minus a recruit visit.

Now we're "dumbasses" I don't have to justify anything. As for our players, they will have their day in court...along with SEVERAL eye witnesses that say this incident didn't happen the way the police reported. So, kindly go fvck yourself.

[Silenoz]

Griz fans: blah blah blah blah
Cat fans: blah blah blah blah
Griz fans: blah blah blah blah

Its the same thing every time something happens with one of the programs

[SACCAT]

All they did was release him from his scholarship and LOI. Never started class or practice. You dumbass griz fans would be making the same argument if it were your recruit. Quit trying to justify your own current player's ineptitude with someone who never even came to Bozeman minus a recruit visit.

Now we're "dumbasses" I don't have to justify anything. As for our players, they will have their day in court...along with SEVERAL eye witnesses that say this incident didn't happen the way the police reported. So, kindly go fvck yourself.

I heard from about 4-5 Eye witnesses that it did happen the way the cops said, and actually was worse and the cops are holding back some details from the news report. Your eye witnesses must be Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder.

[SACCAT]

Griz fans: blah blah blah blah
Cat fans: blah blah blah blah
Griz fans: blah blah blah blah

Its the same thing every time something happens with one of the programs

Best post on this topic.

I agree 100%

[griz8791]

Griz fans: blah blah blah blah
Cat fans: blah blah blah blah
Griz fans: blah blah blah blah

Its the same thing every time something happens with one of the programs

LOL at the people on both sides who still think this is a winnable argument.