Joe Paterno

[ODUalum11]

Penn State is probably licking their chops about this. Not the scandal, but the chance to get rid of Paterno.

Well FWIW, they were having a pretty decent season...I believe they were leading their division in the Big 10 by 2 games ahead of Ohio State and once preseason national championship contender Wisconsin.

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The Pope of Happy Valley

[CitadelGrad]

Been posting this on the "Joe Pa" and the local ESPN Radio station Facebook pages

It's pretty clear from how fast this has snowballed, people being fired, the grand jury report, etc... some really fucked up shit happened.

Also, to your point of "Should JoPa gone straight to CPS?".....the answer is YES! I don't know about the college level, but to coach at the HS and youth level a coach must be a Mandatory Reporter....that means if there is evidence of ANY KIND....I mean ANY kind....a report MUST....I repeate MUST...be made to CPS/DHS. The same goes for the grad assistant, and the athletic department members that were alerted. There should have been an investigation up front. What JoPa did is willful ignorance of the illegal activities....in many crimes that is a crime itself.

By not following up and making sure proper actions were taken, that entire university fucked itself...

You should read the applicable statute. Paterno complied with the law. It is his judgement and sense of morality that are in question.

[bluehenbillk]

Highly anticipated event today - Paterno does his weekly press conference at I believe 12:20 EST.

[dbackjon]

It's pretty clear from how fast this has snowballed, people being fired, the grand jury report, etc... some really fucked up shit happened.

Also, to your point of "Should JoPa gone straight to CPS?".....the answer is YES! I don't know about the college level, but to coach at the HS and youth level a coach must be a Mandatory Reporter....that means if there is evidence of ANY KIND....I mean ANY kind....a report MUST....I repeate MUST...be made to CPS/DHS. The same goes for the grad assistant, and the athletic department members that were alerted. There should have been an investigation up front. What JoPa did is willful ignorance of the illegal activities....in many crimes that is a crime itself.

By not following up and making sure proper actions were taken, that entire university fucked itself...

You should read the applicable statute. Paterno complied with the law. It is his judgement and sense of morality that are in question.

You sure about that? I know in most states he did not. And, as a senior executive at Penn State, he can't pass the Buck that easily.

If these allegations are true, and JoePa knew about the rape in the locker room, he, along with Sandusky, should spend the rest of their lives in jail.

[DSUrocks07]

You should read the applicable statute. Paterno complied with the law. It is his judgement and sense of morality that are in question.

You sure about that? I know in most states he did not. And, as a senior executive at Penn State, he can't pass the Buck that easily.

If these allegations are true, and JoePa knew about the rape in the locker room, he, along with Sandusky, should spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Paterno told his Athletic Director who is in his position BECAUSE that is what he was there for. If anyone should be joining Sandusky in prison it should be him, not Paterno.

People are REALLY QUICKLY overstating his stature at the University...

[clenz]

You sure about that? I know in most states he did not. And, as a senior executive at Penn State, he can't pass the Buck that easily.

If these allegations are true, and JoePa knew about the rape in the locker room, he, along with Sandusky, should spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Paterno told his Athletic Director who is in his position BECAUSE that is what he was there for. If anyone should be joining Sandusky in prison it should be him, not Paterno.

People are REALLY QUICKLY overstating his stature at the University...

I don't give a flying rats ass what his"stature" at the university is....because he is Joe fucking Paterno....He has fucking Paternoville...if you don't think he has "stature" at the university you are sorely mistaken.

You mean to tell me, if someone told you they saw a 58 year old man raping a 10 year old kid in YOUR FREAKING BATHROOM SHOWER you wouldn't go to the police? Really?

[dbackjon]

Paterno told his Athletic Director who is in his position BECAUSE that is what he was there for. If anyone should be joining Sandusky in prison it should be him, not Paterno.

People are REALLY QUICKLY overstating his stature at the University...

I don't give a flying rats ass what his"stature" at the university is....because he is Joe fucking Paterno....He has fucking Paternoville...if you don't think he has "stature" at the university you are sorely mistaken.

You mean to tell me, if someone told you they saw a 58 year old man raping a 10 year old kid in YOUR FREAKING BATHROOM SHOWER you wouldn't go to the police? Really?

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[DSUrocks07]

Paterno told his Athletic Director who is in his position BECAUSE that is what he was there for. If anyone should be joining Sandusky in prison it should be him, not Paterno.

People are REALLY QUICKLY overstating his stature at the University...

I don't give a flying rats ass what his"stature" at the university is....because he is Joe **** Paterno....He has **** Paternoville...if you don't think he has "stature" at the university you are sorely mistaken.

You mean to tell me, if someone told you they saw a 58 year old man raping a 10 year old kid in YOUR FREAKING BATHROOM SHOWER you wouldn't go to the police? Really?

My first question would be "WHY THE **** ARE YOU TELLING ME FOR????" Also, you're acting like it was in his house...

Hands down. McQuery should be in prison. Should of stopped it. He WANTED to get Joe involved...(blackmail)

As for Paterno, if it happened at my job.

I would let my boss know about the situation, tell him to contact the police as well and that I would cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur. He has bosses as well, there's a reason WHY its called chain of command. What is the point of having one then? And we don't know if he DIDN'T contact the police himself either...there was a lot of covering up going on.

Vigilante justice is what people are expecting here. He's an 80 year old man, in all honesty this shit should of been handled back in 1998-99, when it first surfaced with the local prosecutor who didn't pursue the case then possibly committed suicide. It shouldn't of come to all of this. People are acting like Joe Pa was the molestor/rapist and not Sandusky.

[clenz]

I don't give a flying rats ass what his"stature" at the university is....because he is Joe **** Paterno....He has **** Paternoville...if you don't think he has "stature" at the university you are sorely mistaken.

You mean to tell me, if someone told you they saw a 58 year old man raping a 10 year old kid in YOUR FREAKING BATHROOM SHOWER you wouldn't go to the police? Really?

My first question would be "WHY THE **** ARE YOU TELLING ME FOR????" Also, you're acting like it was in his house...

Hands down. McQuery should be in prison. Should of stopped it. He WANTED to get Joe involved...

As for Paterno, if it happened at my job.

I would let my boss know about the situation, tell him to contact the police as well and that I would cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur. He has bosses as well, there's a reason WHY its called chain of command. What is the point of having one then? And we don't know if he DIDN'T contact the police himself either...there was a lot of covering up going on.

Vigilante justice is what people are expecting here. He's an 80 year old man, in all honesty this shit should of been handled back in 1998-99, when it first surfaced with the local prosecutor who didn't pursue the case then possibly committed suicide. It shouldn't of come to all of this. People are acting like Joe Pa was the molestor/rapist and not Sandusky.

We do know he didn't contact the police....they have said as much.

The Penn State Locker Room.....hell all of Happy Valley....is Joe's home.


Paterno is just as guilty for every child raped after he didn't turn him into the police as Sandusky himself. Willful ignorance is guilt by association.


If you aren't willing to turn a child molester in....I hope you aren't around children.

[DSUrocks07]

My first question would be "WHY THE **** ARE YOU TELLING ME FOR????" Also, you're acting like it was in his house...

Hands down. McQuery should be in prison. Should of stopped it. He WANTED to get Joe involved...

As for Paterno, if it happened at my job.

I would let my boss know about the situation, tell him to contact the police as well and that I would cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur. He has bosses as well, there's a reason WHY its called chain of command. What is the point of having one then? And we don't know if he DIDN'T contact the police himself either...there was a lot of covering up going on.

Vigilante justice is what people are expecting here. He's an 80 year old man, in all honesty this **** should of been handled back in 1998-99, when it first surfaced with the local prosecutor who didn't pursue the case then possibly committed suicide. It shouldn't of come to all of this. People are acting like Joe Pa was the molestor/rapist and not Sandusky.

We do know he didn't contact the police....they have said as much.

The Penn State Locker Room.....hell all of Happy Valley....is Joe's home.


Paterno is just as guilty for every child raped after he didn't turn him into the police as Sandusky himself. Willful ignorance is guilt by association.


If you aren't willing to turn a child molester in....I hope you aren't around children.

Yes because that's exactly what I said...

[clenz]

We do know he didn't contact the police....they have said as much.

The Penn State Locker Room.....hell all of Happy Valley....is Joe's home.


Paterno is just as guilty for every child raped after he didn't turn him into the police as Sandusky himself. Willful ignorance is guilt by association.


If you aren't willing to turn a child molester in....I hope you aren't around children.

Yes because that's exactly what I said...

You said you would "follow chain of command"....tell you boss and leave it at that. There are times where chain of command doesn't mean shit....and child rape is one of them.

[DSUrocks07]

Yes because that's exactly what I said...

You said you would "follow chain of command"....tell you boss and leave it at that. There are times where chain of command doesn't mean ****....and child rape is one of them.

Now I know that you didn't read my post...

I would let my boss know about the situation, tell him to contact the police as well and that I would cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur.

"contact the police as well" meaning that I would be calling the police and that he/she should as well.

"cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur" meaning that i would make myself available as witness for testimony

where does it infer that i would just "leave it at that"???

McQuery should be in jail. He SAW it happen and did NOTHING.

And in your hypothetical situation, if the person who came to me didn't immediately contact the police himself or attempt to stop it from happening they should be in jail as well.

[clenz]

You said you would "follow chain of command"....tell you boss and leave it at that. There are times where chain of command doesn't mean ****....and child rape is one of them.

Now I know that you didn't read my post...

I would let my boss know about the situation, tell him to contact the police as well and that I would cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur.

"contact the police as well" meaning that I would be calling the police and that he/she should as well.

"cooperate with whatever investigation that would occur" meaning that i would make myself available as witness for testimony

where does it infer that i would just "leave it at that"???

McQuery should be in jail. He SAW it happen and did NOTHING.

And in your hypothetical situation, if the person who came to me didn't immediately contact the police himself or attempt to stop it from happening they should be in jail as well.

Everyone involved in this situation should be in jail....facing maximum sentences.

[DSUrocks07]

For the record, no way that Paterno survives this. I doubt he makes it to their game against Nebraska.

[tampajag]

the way FSU got rid of Bobby doesn't look so bad after all.

[CitadelGrad]

You should read the applicable statute. Paterno complied with the law. It is his judgement and sense of morality that are in question.

You sure about that? I know in most states he did not. And, as a senior executive at Penn State, he can't pass the Buck that easily.

If these allegations are true, and JoePa knew about the rape in the locker room, he, along with Sandusky, should spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Apparently you know more about Pennsylvania law than the Attorney General and the state police commissioner.

[dbackjon]

You sure about that? I know in most states he did not. And, as a senior executive at Penn State, he can't pass the Buck that easily.

If these allegations are true, and JoePa knew about the rape in the locker room, he, along with Sandusky, should spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Apparently you know more about Pennsylvania law than the Attorney General and the state police commissioner.

Then PA has fucked up laws regarding reporting of child abuse.

[bluehenbillk]

Apparently you know more about Pennsylvania law than the Attorney General and the state police commissioner.

Then PA has **** up laws regarding reporting of child abuse.

Amen. Yes we do have some weak child abuse laws here in PA. Up until 2002 it was a summary offense - now it's a 3rd class misdemeanor. The maximum penalty for failure to report child abuse is a $200 fine & 30 days in jail.

[89Hen]

I'm not sure what the big deal is here.

[bluehenbillk]

OK hold onto your seatbelts now. An hour before JoePa's press conference was to start today (where PSU had said they'd only be answering PSU/Nebraska & other football related questions) Spanier (PSU's prez) cancelled the press conference. Early national media tweets are not kind towards PSU.

I've thought JoePa would last through a bowl game, but things may be churning to quickly now in UnHappy Valley - Joe & Spanier may go sooner rather than later.

[DSUrocks07]

Paterno's regular 12:20 news conference was just cancelled...

[Grizalltheway]

Then PA has **** up laws regarding reporting of child abuse.

Amen. Yes we do have some weak child abuse laws here in PA. Up until 2002 it was a summary offense - now it's a 3rd class misdemeanor. The maximum penalty for failure to report child abuse is a $200 fine & 30 days in jail.

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's over 50% Catholic, could it?

[dbackjon]

I'm not sure what the big deal is here.

Ah - the Catholic in you...

[DSUrocks07]

some students hung a sign on the Joe Pa statue on campus.

"May no act of ours bring shame"