Does anyone believe JMU is better than Delaware?

[OldHenFan]

Why are we having this conversation? Its not a matter of JMU getting in, they also play in the toughest conference in the FCS. The question is Why did Eastern Kentucky get in ahead of Delaware? That is a joke.......AND they get to host??? Bottom line, Delaware lost games they shouldn't lose, and they continue to play West Chester.

[YoUDeeMan]

JMU didn't have a single quality win all year? Yeah, you're right. Beating the #5 team in September wasn't a quality win at all.

Holy smokes, you're basing your resume on a September game against a Big South team.

Early season polls are worthless, as Liberty proved. JMU beat one team with a winning record (Liberty, at 7-4, whose signature OOC win was against Robert Morris). Every other team with a winning record beat the Dukes.

[YoUDeeMan]

I've lurked on these boards occasionally over the past few months, and I can say without a doubt, that Cluck U is the worst poster I've ever read on any message board. This is the same guy who wanted to petition lawyers to have DJ Bryant tried for assault after taking a swing at Maine players. Is your life that boring that these are the things you do and think about in your free time?

You are the worst poster I've ever seen. Go hide in the corner.

Glad you took the time to join us Mrs. Thorpe, but you need to lay off the sauce...your son needs a mentor with a better grasp of reality.

What a D-bag. Should get tossed from the next game.

I'm sure we CAA folks can raise a bit of funds so that you can take the time to write to Yeager with a request to review this video....complete with an official lawyerly looking recommendation for sentencing.

Since he threw punches at several players, perhaps a stiffer sentence is warranted.

Remind me again, what is your drink of choice?

I'm petitioning lawyers?

We're going to rename you "JMU till I Die of Embarrassment and Stupidity".

[rationalgriz]

If no one cares if a team plays D2 teams, then why not schedule 3 of them? Every school is well aware that playing a D2 could hurt your chances, nothing arbitrary about that. Even if top D2 schools are better than say a St. Francis, they are still D2 and St. Francis is not. It is how the playoff selection game is played, so no one should be surprised or bitch if they do not get in because they scheduled West Chester instead of St. Francis.

[YoUDeeMan]

If no one cares if a team plays D2 teams, then why not schedule 3 of them? Every school is well aware that playing a D2 could hurt your chances, nothing arbitrary about that. Even if top D2 schools are better than say a St. Francis, they are still D2 and St. Francis is not. It is how the playoff selection game is played, so no one should be surprised or bitch if they do not get in because they scheduled West Chester instead of St. Francis.

ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS AND HOME SCHOOLED MORANS....

...has anyone from Delaware that has posted on this thread bitched that Delaware got ripped off? We understand the reasoning...WCU finally killed us and we're OK with that.

The thread only asks if JMU is better than Delaware...and since they won't play each other this year, we are putting on our best FBS thinking caps and settling it like men (except for Mrs. Thorpe)...off the field.

Having said that, if the game were played on grass, I think UD would have a decided advantage.

[19Duke97]

If no one cares if a team plays D2 teams, then why not schedule 3 of them? Every school is well aware that playing a D2 could hurt your chances, nothing arbitrary about that. Even if top D2 schools are better than say a St. Francis, they are still D2 and St. Francis is not. It is how the playoff selection game is played, so no one should be surprised or bitch if they do not get in because they scheduled West Chester instead of St. Francis.

ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS AND HOME SCHOOLED MORANS....

...has anyone from Delaware that has posted on this thread bitched that Delaware got ripped off? We understand the reasoning...WCU finally killed us and we're OK with that.

The thread only asks if JMU is better than Delaware...and since they won't play each other this year, we are putting on our best FBS thinking caps and settling it like men (except for Mrs. Thorpe)...off the field.

Having said that, if the game were played on grass, I think UD would have a decided advantage.

What the he!! is a "Moran"?

[mcveyrl]

JMU didn't have a single quality win all year? Yeah, you're right. Beating the #5 team in September wasn't a quality win at all.

Holy smokes, you're basing your resume on a September game against a Big South team.

Early season polls are worthless, as Liberty proved. JMU beat one team with a winning record (Liberty, at 7-4, whose signature OOC win was against Robert Morris). Every other team with a winning record beat the Dukes.

Actually, I think he was referring to William and Mary, or maybe Richmond. Liberty was never ranked that high, but thanks for keeping up....The comparison's still bad, though. When you're looking at an end of year resume it's not based on where a team was when you played them, but how they finished.

Again, why does this matter? Couldn't we argue about UD's record against teams with losing records?

[BlueHen86]

If no one cares if a team plays D2 teams, then why not schedule 3 of them? Every school is well aware that playing a D2 could hurt your chances, nothing arbitrary about that. Even if top D2 schools are better than say a St. Francis, they are still D2 and St. Francis is not. It is how the playoff selection game is played, so no one should be surprised or bitch if they do not get in because they scheduled West Chester instead of St. Francis.

Nobody said that. But the idea that scheduling 3 weak D-I teams is automatically better than playing 3 D-II teams is wrong.

Also, nobody is surprised or bitching about the Hens being left out. Quite the opposite, we know why the Hens are out.

[BlueHen86]

ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS AND HOME SCHOOLED MORANS....

...has anyone from Delaware that has posted on this thread bitched that Delaware got ripped off? We understand the reasoning...WCU finally killed us and we're OK with that.

The thread only asks if JMU is better than Delaware...and since they won't play each other this year, we are putting on our best FBS thinking caps and settling it like men (except for Mrs. Thorpe)...off the field.

Having said that, if the game were played on grass, I think UD would have a decided advantage.

What the he!! is a "Moran"?

A person who questions spelling on a message board.

[YoUDeeMan]

ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS AND HOME SCHOOLED MORANS....

What the he!! is a "Moran"?

You haven't visited the Poli Board have you?

If I have to post the picture, it will put you on par with the other lurker, Mrs. Thorpe. Don't make me do it, I have faith in you...all JMU posters can't be that dumb.

[93henfan]

The committee should give at large bids to the 10 most best teams available, ruling a team out because they played a D-II is dumb. Sometimes you have to schedule a D-II just to fill out an 11 game schedule.

Yes, sometimes you have to schedule a DII just to fill out an 11 game schedule... if you are located in Buttfuck, Montana.

But if you are located in Newark, DE, there are approximately 37 FCS opponents within bus range of you, not counting CAA teams or FBS teams. I'm willing to bet that nobody in the entire country has more non-conference scheduling options than Delaware. And almost everyone would love to get a shot at Delaware. Instead they played a FBS, a D2 and a team in their own state that went 1-7 in the MEAC.

You Blue Hen fans were among the noisiest about not expanding the playoffs. Now you think you should go to the playoffs without having to play anyone in FCS outside your conference? What the hell? It's the FCS Playoffs, not the Delaware Invitational. Play FCS teams. You're even allowed to play them outside Delaware.

You'd almost think Delaware leads the all-time series versus UMass 25-7 with the bitterness this guy seems to have.

[BlueHen86]

Yes, sometimes you have to schedule a DII just to fill out an 11 game schedule... if you are located in Buttfuck, Montana.

But if you are located in Newark, DE, there are approximately 37 FCS opponents within bus range of you, not counting CAA teams or FBS teams. I'm willing to bet that nobody in the entire country has more non-conference scheduling options than Delaware. And almost everyone would love to get a shot at Delaware. Instead they played a FBS, a D2 and a team in their own state that went 1-7 in the MEAC.

You Blue Hen fans were among the noisiest about not expanding the playoffs. Now you think you should go to the playoffs without having to play anyone in FCS outside your conference? What the hell? It's the FCS Playoffs, not the Delaware Invitational. Play FCS teams. You're even allowed to play them outside Delaware.

You'd almost think Delaware leads the all-time series versus UMass 25-7 with the bitterness this guy seems to have.

The pathetic thing is that he had to edit my post to make his point. If UD fans were as bad as he said he should have been able to find a post that didn't need editing.

[rationalgriz]

If no one cares if a team plays D2 teams, then why not schedule 3 of them? Every school is well aware that playing a D2 could hurt your chances, nothing arbitrary about that. Even if top D2 schools are better than say a St. Francis, they are still D2 and St. Francis is not. It is how the playoff selection game is played, so no one should be surprised or bitch if they do not get in because they scheduled West Chester instead of St. Francis.

Nobody said that. But the idea that scheduling 3 weak D-I teams is automatically better than playing 3 D-II teams is wrong.

Also, nobody is surprised or bitching about the Hens being left out. Quite the opposite, we know why the Hens are out.

I am not saying whether it is wrong or right. But everyone knows that there is nothing positive from playing a D2, so schedule the weak FCS team. Cluck, I was just using West Chester as an example, not pointing fingers directly at Delaware.

[kemajic]

I agree with you 100% here. The committee should give at large bids to the 10 most best teams available, ruling a team out because they played a D-II is dumb. Sometimes you have to schedule a D-II just to fill out an 11 game schedule.

No one was ruled out because they played a DII. Montana and Montana St. both played a DII (and a BCS) and still won 8 D1 games. Delaware was ruled out because they didn't win enough of their DI games. The same thing happened to Montana last year. We accepted it and moved on. UD should too. Get better; don't lose so many games.

[CAA Flagship]

Knowing the difficulty of filling out schedules, I would propose a D-II counter when a FBS team is on the schedule provided that the FCS school either a) plays at the D-II school (not gonna happen), or b) provides a minimum $$$ payment to the D-II school. A playoff caliber team is going to beat the D-II school just as easily as a non-scholly FCS school.

This would be more consistent with the relationship between FBS and FCS schools. When the FBS schools played an 11 game schedule, they only had 2 FCS counters in a 4 year span. Now with a 12 game schedule, they get 1 FCS counter per year. This is an effort to spread dollars to willing FCS schools without simply handing it to them.

[bluehenbillk]

O'Day made it pretty clear yesterday - they've never taken a team with less than 7 D-1 wins as an at-large and UD didn't have the 7, that's UD's fault end of story.

Asking who would win if the 2 teams played is irrelevant.

[houndawg]

If there weren't a hundred teams in the CAA we'd know who was better.

[89Hen]

I have no problem JMU getting the nod over UD. They have zero quality wins and losses. We had 2 quality wins and 2 brutal losses. We played West Chester, they played Cenn. Conn. St. Their win counted, our's didn't.

They took care of business vs Rhode Island and UMass with the season on the line, we didn't.

+1

BTW, where's the option for "we have no idea since they didn't play each other"?

[kalm]

O'Day made it pretty clear yesterday - they've never taken a team with less than 7 D-1 wins as an at-large and UD didn't have the 7, that's UD's fault end of story.

Asking who would win if the 2 teams played is irrelevant.

It was mentioned in our radio broadcast that Idaho got in with a 6-5 record in 1995.

[Bleeding Purple]

You guys need to only schedule West Chester during the years where we can play 12 games. For example: the next two years the FCS teams can play 12 regular season contest due to the number of wekends between Labor Day and Thanksgiving. There are enough of those years to keep your rivalry going.

[89Hen]

You guys need to only schedule West Chester...

Never.

[kemajic]

O'Day made it pretty clear yesterday - they've never taken a team with less than 7 D-1 wins as an at-large and UD didn't have the 7, that's UD's fault end of story.

Asking who would win if the 2 teams played is irrelevant.

It was mentioned in our radio broadcast that Idaho got in with a 6-5 record in 1995.

In '95, Idaho was 6-4 in the regular season with only 5 DI wins, but had strong wins against the eventual NC, Montana, and Boise State. Boise St. was 7-4 that year with a dominating win over Utah St. and did not get in. There were fewer FCS particiants in those days and the 7 win rule didn't come in until later. And there were more DII and FBS games in those days than today, probably because of the coming of the rule.

[ChickenMan]

Is JMU better than UD.. who knows? However I do know that UD did not deserve a playoff bid.. loses at home to UMass and URI on the road had nothing to do with playing West Chester.. win one of those two games and the Hens would have been in.. but losing both left them right where they should be... home for the holidays.

[kalm]

It was mentioned in our radio broadcast that Idaho got in with a 6-5 record in 1995.

In '95, Idaho was 6-4 in the regular season with only 5 DI wins, but had strong wins against the eventual NC, Montana, and Boise State. Boise St. was 7-4 that year with a dominating win over Utah St. and did not get in. There were fewer FCS particiants in those days and the 7 win rule didn't come in until later. And there were more DII and FBS games in those days than today, probably because of the coming of the rule.

I figured it was something like that. None the less it's still a dumb rule and needs to be changed. Delaware goes 9-2 with EKU's schedule.

[henfan]

Yes, because their AD doesn't schedule DII's.

Nor is he aware of how to submit a competitive bid to host games.

In all seriousness, the hypothetical asked here is irrelevant and won't be answered in 2011. The point is that JMU deservedly gets to go to the playoffs.