rkwittem wrote:It's not a penalty per se, but it allows Brees 8 games of perfect weather. I think it's unwise to understate that.
That's not necessarily a given. The Oilers once had a game at the Astrodome rained out. The parking lot flooded. No fans, no game....
Oops. Not the Oilers. It was the Astros. I'm such a dummy sometimes....
SuperHornet's Athletics Hall of Fame includes Jacksonville State kicker Ashley Martin, the first girl to score in a Division I football game. She kicked 3 PATs in a 2001 game for J-State.
SuperHornet wrote:
That's not necessarily a given. The Oilers once had a game at the Astrodome rained out. The parking lot flooded. No fans, no game....
Oops. Not the Oilers. It was the Astros. I'm such a dummy sometimes....
SuperHornet wrote:You think defense was "hard" during Marino's era? The tide turning against the defense actually happened in 1978 when they liberalized the holding rules, reduced it to 10 yards, and banned raping the receiver up and down the entire freaking field. If you want excellence against what was essentially no-holds-barred defense, look no farther than the early 1950s Rams, which averaged 39 points a game and over 500 total yards a game against the "real" old rules. Compared to that, Marino had a cake walk.
Agreed in the 70's WR's routinely got molested by DB's ask ppl what it was like to play against Mel Blount in his prime they would probably have told you it was the equivalent of being raped in prison.And in the 60's it was even worse as Super Hornet said.
And the 80's weren't that far removed from the 70's, style-wise. Certainly more physical at the time than it is now for Brees.
dal4018 wrote:
Agreed in the 70's WR's routinely got molested by DB's ask ppl what it was like to play against Mel Blount in his prime they would probably have told you it was the equivalent of being raped in prison.And in the 60's it was even worse as Super Hornet said.
And the 80's weren't that far removed from the 70's, style-wise. Certainly more physical at the time than it is now for Brees.
Agreed just curious how do you think today's WR's would do against DB's in the 70's for example a young Terrell Owens vs a young Mel Blount?both have the size Owens 6-3 220 vs Blount 6-4 210
rkwittem wrote:
And the 80's weren't that far removed from the 70's, style-wise. Certainly more physical at the time than it is now for Brees.
Agreed just curious how do you think today's WR's would do against DB's in the 70's for example a young Terrell Owens vs a young Mel Blount?both have the size Owens 6-3 220 vs Blount 6-4 210
Today's WRs would piss and moan the whole game, just look at what the Colts did 6-7 years ago when Ty Law and co. for the Patriots pushed them around in the AFC Championship game, which led to rules being changed. ("Polian" Rules... )
Anyway, I think the old DB's, if they were allowed to play the way they once were, when the game was purer and less mass-production oriented (by this I mean tailored to make money and get viewers), they would hold up just fine.
dal4018 wrote:
Agreed just curious how do you think today's WR's would do against DB's in the 70's for example a young Terrell Owens vs a young Mel Blount?both have the size Owens 6-3 220 vs Blount 6-4 210
Today's WRs would piss and moan the whole game, just look at what the Colts did 6-7 years ago when Ty Law and co. for the Patriots pushed them around in the AFC Championship game, which led to rules being changed. ("Polian" Rules... )
Anyway, I think the old DB's, if they were allowed to play the way they once were, when the game was purer and less mass-production oriented (by this I mean tailored to make money and get viewers), they would hold up just fine.
Agreed, I told this to somebody on another website that if Ty Law had played against Owens instead of Marvin Harrison it would have been, a totally different outcome in all those Colts,Patriots playoff games imagine Law trying to be physical against Owens it would be the equivalent of Allen Iverson, playing low post defense against Karl Malone in the NBA.
dal4018 wrote:
Agreed just curious how do you think today's WR's would do against DB's in the 70's for example a young Terrell Owens vs a young Mel Blount?both have the size Owens 6-3 220 vs Blount 6-4 210
Today's WRs would piss and moan the whole game, just look at what the Colts did 6-7 years ago when Ty Law and co. for the Patriots pushed them around in the AFC Championship game, which led to rules being changed. ("Polian" Rules... )
Anyway, I think the old DB's, if they were allowed to play the way they once were, when the game was purer and less mass-production oriented (by this I mean tailored to make money and get viewers), they would hold up just fine.
I don't know about this remember the DB's of today can't even so much as SNEEZE on WR's after the 5 yd rule and I wonder how guys like Blount would hold up with this type of rule where you can't play like old school db's.I think guys like he and Mike Haynes would get upset themselves don't you think?
You implied that the WRs of today would play under 1970s rules, which is why I suggested that those DBs would do just fine. I still stand by that assertion.
rkwittem wrote:You implied that the WRs of today would play under 1970s rules, which is why I suggested that those DBs would do just fine. I still stand by that assertion.
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