CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
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CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
Read two outstanding books in the last two months.
Everyday Stalinism: Ordinary Life in Extraordinary Times: Soviet Russia in the 1930s , by Sheila Fitzpatrick
Deep analysis of what it took to be an ordinary citizen in the early years of Stalin. Long lines, discrimination, purges, Party corruption. Woulda sucked to live there at that time.
Dont Call Me Boss: David L. Lawrence, Pittsburgh's Renaissance Mayor , by Michael Weber
Very, very detailed account of the public life of Pittsburgh's greatest mayor ever, David Lawrence, who served Pittsburgh, the state and the nation for 50 years. Was also governor of Pennsylvania from '59 to '63. Served in the Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson admin's, too. Fierce proponent of the little guy, civil rights and fair housing, he wrenched the city away from corrupt Republicans and created a Dem stronghold that holds to this day. Ushered in the Pittsburgh Renaissance which turned it from a smoky, dying city to an international jewel.
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Everyday Stalinism: Ordinary Life in Extraordinary Times: Soviet Russia in the 1930s , by Sheila Fitzpatrick
Deep analysis of what it took to be an ordinary citizen in the early years of Stalin. Long lines, discrimination, purges, Party corruption. Woulda sucked to live there at that time.
Dont Call Me Boss: David L. Lawrence, Pittsburgh's Renaissance Mayor , by Michael Weber
Very, very detailed account of the public life of Pittsburgh's greatest mayor ever, David Lawrence, who served Pittsburgh, the state and the nation for 50 years. Was also governor of Pennsylvania from '59 to '63. Served in the Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson admin's, too. Fierce proponent of the little guy, civil rights and fair housing, he wrenched the city away from corrupt Republicans and created a Dem stronghold that holds to this day. Ushered in the Pittsburgh Renaissance which turned it from a smoky, dying city to an international jewel.
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Re: CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
Biography of Alexander the Great. Pretty neat.
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Re: CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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Inside the White House
Ronald Kessler
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book
Inside the White House
Ronald Kessler
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. Al Swearengen

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I'm pretty sure that quote has been thoroughly refuted. Wasn't LBJ saying that the Dems would lose the south for the next two generations on the signing of the Civil Rights bill?Bronco wrote:-
Inside the White House
Ronald Kessler
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book
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Haven't seen it debunked
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Re: CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
Bronco wrote:Haven't seen it debunked
Bronchitis,
He did, indeed, say that, but, like you, Lyndon Johnson belonged to a different time and place. And, like you, he would struggle to make it today.
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His quote and others like it shows that Dems really don’t care about people like they say…
Every time I see the N word printed in a post on this site it’s by a “progressive”
Repubs freed the slaves and dems put them back into slavery
Blacks still haven’t recovered from Johnson’s great society but he was right in predicting their future votes
Dems have heroes like the hypocrite Ted Kennedy who was pro life until it became important to pick up the female vote
He couldn’t drop his principles fast enough
…and now we have Obama who is continuing the dem tradition of not caring about people or principles just votes
His quote and others like it shows that Dems really don’t care about people like they say…
Every time I see the N word printed in a post on this site it’s by a “progressive”
Repubs freed the slaves and dems put them back into slavery
Blacks still haven’t recovered from Johnson’s great society but he was right in predicting their future votes
Dems have heroes like the hypocrite Ted Kennedy who was pro life until it became important to pick up the female vote
He couldn’t drop his principles fast enough
…and now we have Obama who is continuing the dem tradition of not caring about people or principles just votes
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. Al Swearengen

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Re: CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
I'm pretty sure he said both.kalm wrote:I'm pretty sure that quote has been thoroughly refuted. Wasn't LBJ saying that the Dems would lose the south for the next two generations on the signing of the Civil Rights bill?Bronco wrote:-
Inside the White House
Ronald Kessler
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book
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BS. TR was a Clinton Democrat.kalm wrote:Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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Clinton was the 2nd best Republican President of the 20th century.Ivytalk wrote:BS. TR was a Clinton Democrat.kalm wrote:Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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After JFK.kalm wrote:Clinton was the 2nd best Republican President of the 20th century.Ivytalk wrote: BS. TR was a Clinton Democrat.
“I’m tired and done.” — 89Hen 3/27/22.
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I have that book sitting on the shelf waiting to be read when I get done with a few others, what do you think so far?kalm wrote:Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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Only a few pages in so far. Went to a directional university so I'm a bit of slow reader.griz37 wrote:I have that book sitting on the shelf waiting to be read when I get done with a few others, what do you think so far?kalm wrote:Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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Re: CS Political/History Book Club - December Edition
Am reading a fascinating book on natural history right now: Voyage of the Turtle by Carl Safina. It's about the life and migrations of the giant leatherback turtle, which routinely covers thousands of miles and returns to the same beach it was born to lay its eggs. Kind of like the Kennedys.
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Isn't it Alan Brinkley? David Brinkley, Chet Huntley's newscasting partner, is in the great newsroom in the sky.kalm wrote:Only a few pages in so far. Went to a directional university so I'm a bit of slow reader.griz37 wrote:
I have that book sitting on the shelf waiting to be read when I get done with a few others, what do you think so far?
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Did I not say I went to a directional university?Ivytalk wrote:Isn't it Alan Brinkley? David Brinkley, Chet Huntley's newscasting partner, is in the great newsroom in the sky.kalm wrote:
Only a few pages in so far. Went to a directional university so I'm a bit of slow reader.
(Good line about the Kennedy's though
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I picked up a book on TR while Christmas shopping too, but haven't started it yet.kalm wrote:Got "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America" by David Brinkley for christmas and just started it.
It will be interesting to see if it confirms Teddy as the greatest conk president of all time.
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Just finished "Truman" by D. McCullough; awesome book. Reading Clinton's new book right now
then onto Ron Chernow's "The House of Morgan".
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Finished that a few months ago, really enjoyed it. Truman was a great CIC.CharlestonAppFan wrote:Just finished "Truman" by D. McCullough; awesome book. Reading Clinton's new book right nowthen onto Ron Chernow's "The House of Morgan".
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Almost halfway through That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World It Invented and How We Can Come Back by Thomas L. Friedman and Michael Mandelbaum.
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So far it's an excellent book. It's pretty fair in assessing where we are and what we need to do to turn things around. Not sure that hard core Republicans or Democrats are going to like it (we're going to have to raise taxes on everyone to reduce the deficit/we're going to have to make significant changes in social programs & the military to reduce the deficit) but it is proposals would be in line with what a true progressive would champion.
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So far it's an excellent book. It's pretty fair in assessing where we are and what we need to do to turn things around. Not sure that hard core Republicans or Democrats are going to like it (we're going to have to raise taxes on everyone to reduce the deficit/we're going to have to make significant changes in social programs & the military to reduce the deficit) but it is proposals would be in line with what a true progressive would champion.
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Well, duh, because the New York Times's Tommy Friedman wrote it!!UNI88 wrote:Almost halfway through That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World It Invented and How We Can Come Back by Thomas L. Friedman and Michael Mandelbaum.
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So far it's an excellent book. It's pretty fair in assessing where we are and what we need to do to turn things around. Not sure that hard core Republicans or Democrats are going to like it (we're going to have to raise taxes on everyone to reduce the deficit/we're going to have to make significant changes in social programs & the military to reduce the deficit) but it is proposals would be in line with what a true progressive would champion.
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Just finished That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World It Invented and How We Can Come Back. Excellent book and I would highly recommend it. Of course I like and frequently agree with Friedman as an author.Ivytalk wrote:Well, duh, because the New York Times's Tommy Friedman wrote it!!UNI88 wrote:Almost halfway through That Used to Be Us: How America Fell Behind in the World It Invented and How We Can Come Back by Thomas L. Friedman and Michael Mandelbaum.
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So far it's an excellent book. It's pretty fair in assessing where we are and what we need to do to turn things around. Not sure that hard core Republicans or Democrats are going to like it (we're going to have to raise taxes on everyone to reduce the deficit/we're going to have to make significant changes in social programs & the military to reduce the deficit) but it is proposals would be in line with what a true progressive would champion.
The book focuses on what America needs to do to compete in the future but there are some interesting ideas about how even in defeat a 3rd party presidential candidate could have a greater impact on the future of the country than the winning candidate. In the 4 elections in the 20th century in which there was a viable 3rd party candidate, the winning candidate ended up adopting much of the 3rd party's platform in order to co-opt it's supporters in the future.
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