Marriage Equality in a Nutshell

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I don't think left handed people should be allowed to marry.

Bigot............

[kalm]

I don't think left handed people should be allowed to marry.

Bigot............

[JohnStOnge]

The problem isn't so much that homosexual couples aren't allowed to marry, the problem is the belief that people who have sexual preferences that differ from your own are inferior or defective. You give people labels of inferiority because you don't understand their choices and think that by treating them as equals would diminish or tarnish your preferences.

A sex drive in a member of a dioecious species that is directed primarily at individuals of that member's own sex IS defective. And I don't say that because it diminishes or tarnishes my own preference.

It is amazing to me that anybody can contemplate the role of sexually motivated behavior in the biology of dioecious species and not understand that there is something off about a member of such a species actually have a preference for sexual contact with members of its own sex.

It doesn't mean someone is generally inferior to some particular other individual. But good GRIEF man. It's off.

[kalm]

The problem isn't so much that homosexual couples aren't allowed to marry, the problem is the belief that people who have sexual preferences that differ from your own are inferior or defective. You give people labels of inferiority because you don't understand their choices and think that by treating them as equals would diminish or tarnish your preferences.

A sex drive in a member of a dioecious species that is directed primarily at individuals of that member's own sex IS defective. And I don't say that because it diminishes or tarnishes my own preference.

It is amazing to me that anybody can contemplate the role of sexually motivated behavior in the biology of dioecious species and not understand that there is something off about a member of such a species actually have a preference for sexual contact with members of its own sex.

It doesn't mean someone is generally inferior to some particular other individual. But good GRIEF man. It's off.

I'm not familiar with the scientific term of "off". Please explain.

[JohnStOnge]

I just see homosexuality as pretty normal. Aint it like 20% of the overall population? Thats a lot of gay people.

I don't think so. I think what we see in exit polling is probably a pretty good indication. Like in the 2010 House elections 3% answered "yes" to the question "Are you Gay, Lesbian, or Bisexual." There are some problems with using that to estimate the percentage in the general population because it's possible that some people wouldn't want to say they're homosexual and also it's voters and not the general population. But it's a scientific sample and I think it's probably a lot closer to the general population percentage than the 10% figure that's been thrown around. And I certainly don't think it's anywhere close to 20%.

Besides, just because something occurs in a high percentage of the population doesn't mean it's not disfunctional. I'm nearsighted. I'd be willing to bet that a pretty darned high percentage of the population is nearsighted. But it's still a disorder.

[grizzaholic]

Bestiality?
Incest?
Pedophilia?

[JohnStOnge]

I'm not familiar with the scientific term of "off". Please explain.

Misdirected.

[D1B]

I just see homosexuality as pretty normal. Aint it like 20% of the overall population? Thats a lot of gay people.

I don't think so. I think what we see in exit polling is probably a pretty good indication. Like in the 2010 House elections 3% answered "yes" to the question "Are you Gay, Lesbian, or Bisexual." There are some problems with using that to estimate the percentage in the general population because it's possible that some people wouldn't want to say they're homosexual and also it's voters and not the general population. But it's a scientific sample and I think it's probably a lot closer to the general population percentage than the 10% figure that's been thrown around. And I certainly don't think it's anywhere close to 20%.

Besides, just because something occurs in a high percentage of the population doesn't mean it's not disfunctional. I'm nearsighted. I'd be willing to bet that a pretty darned high percentage of the population is nearsighted. But it's still a disorder.

Yeah, it's dysfunctional in terms of procreation, but nothing else, John. Hetero's who are sterile or don't want kids are disfunctional too. Yet they can reap all the benefits of marriage.

That being saind, gays have children too, all the fucking time. Gays adopt children.

Statistically, gay marriages/relationships last longer.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

The problem isn't so much that homosexual couples aren't allowed to marry, the problem is the belief that people who have sexual preferences that differ from your own are inferior or defective. You give people labels of inferiority because you don't understand their choices and think that by treating them as equals would diminish or tarnish your preferences.

A sex drive in a member of a dioecious species that is directed primarily at individuals of that member's own sex IS defective. And I don't say that because it diminishes or tarnishes my own preference.

It is amazing to me that anybody can contemplate the role of sexually motivated behavior in the biology of dioecious species and not understand that there is something off about a member of such a species actually have a preference for sexual contact with members of its own sex.

It doesn't mean someone is generally inferior to some particular other individual. But good GRIEF man. It's off.

JFC you're selectively dense. They are different from the majority, but so what? I'm not arguing that homosexuality isn't different than the majority of a species, I'm saying that it's still normal within our species and thousands of others, and it's fucked up to discriminate because they're different from you. That's what you don't seem to get. Most people don't have cancer, but some do. Should we discriminate against them? Almost everyone is born with or develops an abnormality of some sort due to whatever genetic or environmental cause. It amazes me that people can be so ignorantly proactive against something that doesn't affect them. Wait, did your uncle fuck you? Good GRIEF man, live and let live.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

A sex drive in a member of a dioecious species that is directed primarily at individuals of that member's own sex IS defective. And I don't say that because it diminishes or tarnishes my own preference.

It is amazing to me that anybody can contemplate the role of sexually motivated behavior in the biology of dioecious species and not understand that there is something off about a member of such a species actually have a preference for sexual contact with members of its own sex.

It doesn't mean someone is generally inferior to some particular other individual. But good GRIEF man. It's off.

I'm not familiar with the scientific term of "off". Please explain.

Off: adj. - 1. John's rational thinking.