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Vidav wrote:
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1. UM
2. Everyone else


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Not so sure about that. UM loses a couple key pieces on offense, and no less than NINE starters on defense. It's hard to imagine a team being better than it was the previous season with that kind of turnover.


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Not so sure about that. UM loses a couple key pieces on offense, and no less than NINE starters on defense. It's hard to imagine a team being better than it was the previous season with that kind of turnover.


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Very true, but the Griz have historically been very good when it comes to depth. It will be interesting to see if that trend continues through the coaching changes.
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Hello everyone, been gone doing some additional training at lovely Ft. Sill (worst place in the USA) but now am home for at least a few months. This being my first post in a while I might as well put down what I have been thinking during training so its going to be a long one :thumb: . Very excited for the first season of SUU being in the Big Sky, glad to be back and here are my picks:
1. Cal Poly
2. Montana State
3. Montana
4. EWU
5. Southern Utah
6. Portland State
7. Weber State
8. North Dakota
9. Northern Arizona
10. Sacramento State
11. Northern Colorado
12. Idaho State
13. UC Davis

Despite a few losses to our offense and defense this season I feel that we will be able to compete quite well in the Big Sky conference right from the get go, especially with the return of who I believe to be one of if not the best QB in the league in Brandon Sorensen. Every year under Ed Lamb we have improved beyond expectations and seem to have gotten into a trend of reloading quite well. Last year against Big Sky Teams (new and old) we went 4-2 with a dominating win against Sac State after their upset of OSU, beating our in state rival Weber State and getting the monkey off our backs by beating NAU in another close game. Another fact that should be mentioned is that both our losses came on a combined 10pts. against a good Cal Poly team and much improved UND. Our schedule as of now I am somewhat happy with as we play several of the top teams in the Big Sky (not so much 2 FBS games), here are my super early outlook for our schedule:

-@ Utah State (L 35-28): Good in state game against a Utah State team that has been improving steadily under Coach Anderson. Will be a good game (last time we played was a shootout) and (I believe) a winnable one for us, but will say Anderson and the Aggies will be ready for us.

-@ Cal (L 42-24): Tough road game to draw and our 2nd FBS opponent in two weeks, will be a close 1st half with the bears pulling away in the 2nd.

-@ Portland State (W 38-24): Potential 3rd away game to open the season (have an open date in between Cal and this, may get filled) and our conference opener against the Vikes of Portland State. Think this will be a good game but think Sorensen and Co. will win the day for us here.

-vs. Montana State (W 27-24): Welcoming the Bobcats to Cedar City for our first home game in the Big Sky, last time we met we lost a close fought game in a snow storm in Bozeman (7-3) but with much better weather will be a much higher scoring game. We have always played better @ home and with this being our first potential home game of the season, think we can beat the Bobcats on our home turf.

-vs. Sac State (W 31-14): We welcome the Hornets to Cedar City for the 2nd time in two years and see much of the same result. Sorensen and co. after a slow start came back with our defense shutting down the hornets for the entire 2nd half, see our defense playing well again and our offense moving the ball well.

-@ Montana (L 42-38): A matchup of high scoring offenses against defenses that lost a few starters (in the case of the Griz 9) that will be doing all the can to slow them down. I dont know who to pick in this one mainly because of the lack of starters returning on defense for Montana really means Sorensen might have a great day throwing the ball, but it being in Missoula gives the Griz an edge. Give the Griz the win but dont count us out, can see us able to pull the upset.

-vs. Weber State (W 28-21): Glad that the rivalry seems to be back on and am looking forward to seeing the Wildcats come down to Cedar City. Last years game was a great one and I can see this one being much of the same, giving the win to us for having home field advantage.

-vs. EWU (L 31-28): Last time the Eagles came to Cedar City they left with a dominating 41-28 victory, the following year the National Champs escaped with a 31-24 win in a close game. I am giving us a loss here because the Eagles always seem to reload well at the QB position, think we can win this one but will depend on the quality of the EWU QB.

-@ UND (W 35-24): The Sioux (guess we can call them that now?) have improved very well over the past few seasons and the last couple of games between us have been good ones. However we are undefeated at the Alerus Center so far in the series and see us able to win again in another good game.

-@ NAU (W 24-21): Easily our biggest rival in the Big Sky besides Weber State my Thunderbirds were able to get the monkey off our backs last season and beat the lumberjacks in yet another close classic. I think we can do it again but as usual, will be a nail biter.

So at this point I have us going 6-4 (6-2 in the Big Sky) with a couple of open dates left to be filled in the schedule. Chances are we are going to fill @ least one of them with a D2 school (Dixie or Adams State) but I hope that we can try to get an FCS opponent or two @ Cedar City. FCS schools that we could potentially schedule are NDSU, Central Arkansas, North Carolina A&T & Davidson or we might be able to get brand new FBS schools UTSA or Texas State on our schedule which could be a very winnable game.
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Yeah, welcome back Tbird. Check out the new SUU forum on BigSkyFans and get that thing going. :thumb: Surprised you haven't been posting over there grizza... :coffee:
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Everyone who thinks that UND will finish at the bottom of the Big Sky is in for a surprise. I believe that they will finish top half and hopefully top 4. It will be fun to see all of these "new" opponents come into the Alerus Center. Hopefully people around Grand Forks get the memo that we are now playing for something and they come and fill the Al. The game I am most excited for is probably the game against Portland State because it's our first Big Sky opponent even though it is not a Big Sky game (also love their behind the scenes video that they had every week. Any other teams offer that usually?). Well as Bart Scott would say: CAN'T WAIT!
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kalm wrote:
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Not so sure about that. UM loses a couple key pieces on offense, and no less than NINE starters on defense. It's hard to imagine a team being better than it was the previous season with that kind of turnover.


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Very true, but the Griz have historically been very good when it comes to depth. It will be interesting to see if that trend continues through the coaching changes.
I don't think their defense will be bad, because they do historically have more depth than the rest of the BSC. But losing 9 starters is a big deal. It's not just the quality of the players lost, it's the cohesion that goes along with losing that many guys. The new guys may be equally as talented, but it takes time to form team cohesion.


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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Yeah, welcome back Tbird. Check out the new SUU forum on BigSkyFans and get that thing going. :thumb: Surprised you haven't been posting over there grizza... :coffee:
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The top half of SUUTBird's list looks sort of OK. But there is no way Sac will finish THAT low, and the Manure Pile will NOT be in last. As per usual, that spot will be fought over by UNC and ISU.
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SuperHornet wrote:The top half of SUUTBird's list looks sort of OK. But there is no way Sac will finish THAT low, and the Manure Pile will NOT be in last. As per usual, that spot will be fought over by UNC and ISU.
Don't you talk bad about ISU. I got them middle of the pack and could get higher depending on the way the ball bounces. The Big Human knows his stuff.
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grizzaholic wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Yeah, welcome back Tbird. Check out the new SUU forum on BigSkyFans and get that thing going. :thumb: Surprised you haven't been posting over there grizza... :coffee:
I am not allowed anywhere else. I get by on the EWU board because I post bikinis. I get by on the Egriz board because I lurk. Here, I know management.
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1. Montana St.
2. Montana
3. Cal Poly
4. Portland St.
5. Eastern Washington
6. Weber State
7. Sacramento State
8. North Dakota
9. Southern Utah
10. Northern Arizona
11. UC-Davis
12. Idaho St.
13. Northern Colorado
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Re: 2012 Big Sky Predictions

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Funny predictions; a lot of wishful thinking. As always, the BSC championship goes through Missoula. Montana will be better in 2012; they will win games with their offense.
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kemajic wrote:Funny predictions; a lot of wishful thinking. As always, the BSC championship goes through Missoula. Montana will be better in 2012; they will win games with their offense.
They are going to need to with 9 new starters on defense and a new DC. Oh yeah, they also lost their OC. Not sure the Griz will be better.
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SloStang wrote:
kemajic wrote:Funny predictions; a lot of wishful thinking. As always, the BSC championship goes through Missoula. Montana will be better in 2012; they will win games with their offense.
They are going to need to with 9 new starters on defense and a new DC. Oh yeah, they also lost their OC. Not sure the Griz will be better.
kemajic is the epitome of griz ignarrogance. :thumb:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
SloStang wrote: They are going to need to with 9 new starters on defense and a new DC. Oh yeah, they also lost their OC. Not sure the Griz will be better.
kemajic is the epitome of griz ignarrogance. :thumb:
Remember how the tide had turned? How the Griz had been knocked off their pedastal, never to return? Remember when there was a new king of the hill, now and forever more?

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We took a one year detour, and now it's back to normal. Griz reload, we don't rebuild.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
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kemajic is the epitome of griz ignarrogance. :thumb:
Remember how the tide had turned? How the Griz had been knocked off their pedastal, never to return? Remember when there was a new king of the hill, now and forever more?

Me neither.

We took a one year detour, and now it's back to normal. Griz reload, we don't rebuild.
I don't think anyone outside of maybe BF was saying never to return. It's not like the Griz won the title outright or anything... you had to go and lose to the Hornets and share it with the Boobcats. :lol: :ohno: :thumb:
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Pffft, who the fuck cares about Big Sky championships. We have enough of those for one lifetime. That Sac State loss was just to throw them a fucking bone, for once :lol: :lol:
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kemajic wrote:Funny predictions; a lot of wishful thinking. As always, the BSC championship goes through Missoula. Montana will be better in 2012; they will win games with their offense.
It's hard to imagine a team being "better" after losing 9 starters off the defense plus a couple of key pieces on offense. I guess it's possible, but not very realistic.


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EWURanger wrote:
kemajic wrote:Funny predictions; a lot of wishful thinking. As always, the BSC championship goes through Missoula. Montana will be better in 2012; they will win games with their offense.
It's hard to imagine a team being "better" after losing 9 starters off the defense plus a couple of key pieces on offense. I guess it's possible, but not very realistic.

Thankfully 2012 Griz don't have to play against 2011 Griz. They only have to be better than the BSC teams on their schedule in 2012. I would argue that the 2011 Griz at the end of the season was head and shoulders above the rest Big Sky. So a drop off in 2012 could still leave us on top of the sky.

...but, that is pure homerism and speculation on my part. :coffee:
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BearIt wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
It's hard to imagine a team being "better" after losing 9 starters off the defense plus a couple of key pieces on offense. I guess it's possible, but not very realistic.

Thankfully 2012 Griz don't have to play against 2011 Griz. They only have to be better than the BSC teams on their schedule in 2012. I would argue that the 2011 Griz at the end of the season was head and shoulders above the rest Big Sky. So a drop off in 2012 could still leave us on top of the sky.

...but, that is pure homerism and speculation on my part. :coffee:
I didn't realize that the Griz played the entire Big Sky at the end of the season. Who knew!? :lol:

I seem to remember a terrible performance by EWU at the beginning of the year that resulted in a close 3 point loss to the Griz. Both teams got better throughout the year. I'm willing to bet it would have been a great game had they played at the end of the year as well. :thumb:
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We kicked the living shit out of 3 consecutive playoff teams, and took undefeated/#1 SHSU to the wire on the road, on a short week, after spotting them a massive lead. So yes, I would say we were....

In fact, how is that even debatable? Gawd, SE just has to get his panties in a wad any time we pat ourselves on the back :rofl:
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Brock Landers wrote:We kicked the living **** out of 3 consecutive playoff teams, and took undefeated/#1 SHSU to the wire on the road, on a short week, after spotting them a massive lead. So yes, I would say we were....

In fact, how is that even debatable? Gawd, SE just has to get his panties in a wad any time we pat ourselves on the back :rofl:
All true statements, but we are talking about 2012 here. The Griz will be good as always, but like I said, losing 9 starters on defense is a pretty big hit for any program, whether you guys want to admit it or not.

Even if the guys that are replacing those 9 starters are equally as talented, it will still take a little time for them to become a cohesive defensive unit.

Not a knock, I just don't think the UM
defense will be tops in the BSC, and like I said, it's hard to imagine ANY team being "better" with that kind of turnover.

Also, doesn't UM lose Sambrano and Moutra on offense? Those are also pretty big losses.

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Yes, I was just arguing the one point about our 2011 team.

Though I think we're the favorites this year because I like our schedule, and our offense, and I think our defense will be better than some are giving it credit for. But yes, it will be down a notch from it's (excellent) 2011 squad.

And not to beat the dead horse, but the advantage of Wa-Griz is so huge, it has to play into the predictions. 3 losses in 6 seasons (that included a number of playoff games against elite teams) by a total of 8 points to three playoff teams, that all came down to the wire.
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Silenoz wrote:Pffft, who the fuck cares about Big Sky championships. We have enough of those for one lifetime. That Sac State loss was just to throw them a fucking bone, for once :lol: :lol:
I'd call this more than a bone... beat down is more fitting...
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