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[kalm]

Congrats!

Scientology
Indiana Senate Votes to Teach Scientology in Schools
By Tony Ortega Wed., Feb. 1 2012 at 10:52 AM Comments (119)


Did Democrat Vi Simpson use Scientology to punk the majority Republicans in the Indiana Senate?
​UPDATE: We now have an interview with Vi Simpson, the woman who put Scientology (and other religions) into a Creationism bill in order to neutralize it.
Yesterday, Indiana's state senate voted 28-22 to adopt yet another creationism-in-the-schools bill, which have been routinely found unconstitutional since a 1988 Supreme Court decision.

But this one was a little different, and in a surprising way.

At the last minute, Senate Bill 89 was changed so that it now reads...

The governing body of a school corporation may offer instruction on various theories of the origin of life. The curriculum for the course must include theories from multiple religions, which may include, but is not limited to, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Scientology.

That's right -- kids in Indiana may be learning about Xenu the galactic overlord, spaceships shaped like DC-8s, hydrogen bombs in volcanoes, and the disembodied souls of space aliens that attach themselves to us until one uses the exorcism techniques of Dianetics!...

[SeattleGriz]

Congrats!

Scientology
Indiana Senate Votes to Teach Scientology in Schools
By Tony Ortega Wed., Feb. 1 2012 at 10:52 AM Comments (119)


Did Democrat Vi Simpson use Scientology to punk the majority Republicans in the Indiana Senate?
​UPDATE: We now have an interview with Vi Simpson, the woman who put Scientology (and other religions) into a Creationism bill in order to neutralize it.
Yesterday, Indiana's state senate voted 28-22 to adopt yet another creationism-in-the-schools bill, which have been routinely found unconstitutional since a 1988 Supreme Court decision.

But this one was a little different, and in a surprising way.

At the last minute, Senate Bill 89 was changed so that it now reads...

The governing body of a school corporation may offer instruction on various theories of the origin of life. The curriculum for the course must include theories from multiple religions, which may include, but is not limited to, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Scientology.

That's right -- kids in Indiana may be learning about Xenu the galactic overlord, spaceships shaped like DC-8s, hydrogen bombs in volcanoes, and the disembodied souls of space aliens that attach themselves to us until one uses the exorcism techniques of Dianetics!...

Got a good laugh finding this post...L Ron Hubbard knows where you live.

[catamount man]

No issue with religion being taught in school as long as it's not taught in a proseletyzing (wrong spelling, who cares) way.

The more we know........

[D1B]

No issue with religion being taught in school as long as it's not taught in a proseletyzing (wrong spelling, who cares) way.

The more we know........

Religion is important study for History, Culture, Social Studies, Mythology, Anthropology, Art. In hard science, the creationism crap is a great lead up to evolution, but should be dismissed beyond initial historical perspective.

[Cap'n Cat]

No issue with religion being taught in school as long as it's not taught in a proseletyzing (wrong spelling, who cares) way.

The more we know........

Religion is important study for History, Culture, Social Studies, Mythology, Anthropology, Art. In hard science, the creationism crap is a great lead up to evolution, but should be dismissed beyond initial historical perspective.

[catamount man]

I'm gonna have to look it up but I read a piece a few years back written by a legit Christian scientist who vehemently denied that the 6 day creation account in Genesis was literal. He had written how each legit "day" if you will could be proved by evolutionary methods. AHH!!! Now, I'm gonna have to go find it. It was a great read. I will try to post it later.

[D1B]

I'm gonna have to look it up but I read a piece a few years back written by a legit Christian scientist who vehemently denied that the 6 day creation account in Genesis was literal. He had written how each legit "day" if you will could be proved by evolutionary methods. AHH!!! Now, I'm gonna have to go find it. It was a great read. I will try to post it later.

Outside of the fundamentalists, no one believes in creationism. The catholics, wisely, dropped that shit decades ago. They had to. Some of the best universities in the world are catholic and it's mighty tough to take the science dept. seriously when they're teaching it as fact.

[catamount man]

I'm gonna have to look it up but I read a piece a few years back written by a legit Christian scientist who vehemently denied that the 6 day creation account in Genesis was literal. He had written how each legit "day" if you will could be proved by evolutionary methods. AHH!!! Now, I'm gonna have to go find it. It was a great read. I will try to post it later.

Outside of the fundamentalists, no one believes in creationism. The catholics, wisely, dropped that **** decades ago. They had to. Some of the best universities in the world are catholic and it's mighty tough to take the science dept. seriously when they're teaching it as fact.

I like the old quote from a book I read years ago. "Science books are not made to teach religion while the Bible was never meant to be a science book." or something along those lines. Here's another gaffe for fundies. Those that have been arrested over the years for protesting the right to have THE TEN COMMANDMENTS displayed better go back and re-read them. Of the 10 listed, SEVEN have God telling mankind the proper way to treat and deal with EACH OTHER. Only 3 are attributed to Him. That tells me that the Almighty is a big boy and he can take whatever we dish his way but the real test is in how we treat each other. Hmm....bet they don't swallow that one too well.

[houndawg]

I'm gonna have to look it up but I read a piece a few years back written by a legit Christian scientist who vehemently denied that the 6 day creation account in Genesis was literal. He had written how each legit "day" if you will could be proved by evolutionary methods. AHH!!! Now, I'm gonna have to go find it. It was a great read. I will try to post it later.

huhhuhhuh, you said "legit Cristian scientist".

[catamount man]

well I was trying not to let folks think the guy was a member of the Christian Science religion or whatever it is called. The guy, a scientist, was a practicing Christian. I'll try to find it.

UPDATED:This is NOT the article I was referring to as I'm still trying to find it but this is a good read from a Christian who supports Evolution.

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2007/ ... evolution/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[catamount man]

Another good piece.

http://www.unityinchrist.com/preevangel ... igbang.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The problem with fundamentalists is that they try to bring God, or their version of God, into time and space as HUMANS know it. Not possible.

[youngterrier]

Religion studies and philosophy should be mandatory classes at the middle and high school level

[Grizalltheway]

Religion studies and philosophy should be mandatory classes at the middle and high school level

So should foreign languages, but it ain't happening anytime soon.

[catamount man]

THIS is the piece I was referring to. It is a review of Gerald L. Schroder's 1998 book "THE SCIENCE OF GOD". The arthur still believes in the Adam created in 4,004 BC deal but does a good job in explaining cosmic time and how the days of creation are indeed modern scientific evolutionary periods. I believe in Adam as well, but not 6,000 years ago. That short earth age is flawed theology in even most Christian circles. When Archbishop Ussher introduced that timeline in the 17th century, I doubt he knew the impact, negative I say, that it would have 4 centuries later. This is a good read.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ... chrev.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[kalm]

Another good piece.

http://www.unityinchrist.com/preevangel ... igbang.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The problem with fundamentalists is that they try to bring God, or their version of God, into time and space as HUMANS know it. Not possible.

Stop trying to that and more agnostics might listen.

[catamount man]

i'm not a fundamentalist kalm.