Fuck the Evil Catholic Church

[D1B]

Well, I'm going to guess that the NYT reporters did a lot more research than you assume, Joe. Maybe they didn't graduate from Fordham, but they are professionals, nonetheless. Again, what they're doing is simply a check band balance against the tendency for massive org's like the RCC to get away with murder if left unmolested.

No, they didn't. The would need to investigate the personal finances of SNAP's leaders, as well as the finances of SNAP itself, which they plainly didn't do.

The reason the attorneys in these cases are demanding SNAP's records is because its involvement in litigation is obvious and apparent, and the inference is that its leaders are not doing this for free.

Going to William Donohue for quotes is an evident give-away of the Times' motivations. He is a loose cannon and likely to say something inflammatory or insipid.

Guess you missed the part where it said SNAP is not involved in any of the cases, you blowhard cultist.

Your priests rape kids. Period.

And for fucks like you to demand that others' provide documents is a fucking joke. You've been hiding and shredding for decades, and your non cooperation has contributed to the misery of thousands of rape victims that could have been avoided.

Shame on you, POS.

[Cap'n Cat]

OK, enough. Let's all show some love here.




"Cap'n Cat hereby pledges to do away with name-calling and four-letter words in religious threads. Conks are out of luck, however."

[JoltinJoe]

OK, enough. Let's all show some love here.




"Cap'n Cat hereby pledges to do away with name-calling and four-letter words in religious threads. Conks are out of luck, however."

I accept your truce ... sorry about all the BS.

[D1B]

How about stopping the constant anti-religious/anti-Catholic thread which you guys start exclusively, and we can go back to actually having fun discussions in which we can even get along?

There's no doubt that D is anti-religious and anti-Catholic (and not just towards the institution, but specifically against any individual who is Catholic, lay people included)- but when you just ignore the threads, they tend to die out on their own. No one listens to D when he goes off the deep end as he's oft to do on this topic. If you didn't respond, the threads go right down to the bottom of the page and just disappear. Sure, he'll throw up another thread with some half truths, but even he gets bored of doing that when no one takes the bait. I say just leave the threads alone for awhile and see what happens.

GF, you obviously haven't been paying attention. As long as that shit is still happening, I will be holding the Roman Catholic Church accountable.

I stay up nights searching for crap on the church.

I have no problem with catholic people. I do have a problem with people like Joe who defend the horrible actions of the church, often with lies and a cornucopia of logical fallacies.

[D1B]

OK, enough. Let's all show some love here.




"Cap'n Cat hereby pledges to do away with name-calling and four-letter words in religious threads. Conks are out of luck, however."

I accept your truce ... sorry about all the BS.

Fuck him, Joe. It will never last.



Left: D1B Right: Joltin Joe

[Grizo406]

Left: D1B Right: Joltin Joe

Ran this through my "D1B Translator", and this is what came out...


Left: D1B, (with his der-der-der support group bird). Right: Joltin' Joe...just doin' what he does to D1B.

[D1B]

Left: D1B Right: Joltin Joe

Ran this through my "D1B Translator", and this is what came out...


Left: D1B, (with his der-der-der support group bird). Right: Joltin' Joe...just doin' what he does to D1B.

Left: Montana Boys Basketball. Right: Wisconsin Badgers

Pathetic. Jizzlies should not have been anywhere near the Tourney.

BSC Basketball

[Cap'n Cat]

Enough.

[Grizo406]

Left: D1B, (with his der-der-der support group bird). Right: Joltin' Joe...just doin' what he does to D1B.

Left: Montana Boys Basketball. Right: Wisconsin Badgers

Pathetic. Jizzlies should not have been anywhere near the Tourney.

BSC Basketball



This pic would work well for 2005,too...


Left: Mark Farley. Right: Jerry Moore.

[blueballs]

This has nothing to do with animals fighting or consuming one another but my wife is catholic and I have noticed in going to church with her that the demographics of the catholic churches around Orlando tend to sway older (and substantially northern natives) and heavily hispanic.

Is this a local phenomenon or a is it happening nationwide?

[D1B]

Another major publication condemning the catholic church:

New Jersey Star-Ledger, Monday, March 19th 2012

Ten years after Catholic bishops swore to clean up their act after decades of sexual abuse by priests and cover-ups by their leaders, the Catholic Church is proving that old habits die hard.

The New York Times reported last week that attorneys for the church have subpoenaed records from the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, known to most people as SNAP, as part of sex abuse lawsuits in St. Louis and Kansas City. The subpoenas demand e-mail records and, in some cases, testimony — even though SNAP isn’t directly involved in the suits.

The church demanded 23 years of SNAP’s communication with victims, though the victim in the suit is only 19. They’ve wasted hundreds of hours of staff time and cost SNAP $50,000. Now, SNAP is begging lawyers to work pro bono.

William Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, outlined the strategy to the Times: “SNAP is a menace to the Catholic Church,” he said. “There’s a growing consensus on the part of the bishops that they had better ... buy some good lawyers and get tough.”

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops denied turning up the heat, but the Missouri strategy is clear: Make victims afraid to talk to SNAP and bury them under legal fees — the tactic corporations such as tobacco firms use to silence smaller opponents: Intimidate, outspend.

For decades, the Catholic hierarchy — behind the backs of its innocent clergy and millions of parishioners — used intimidation and secrecy to hide accusations that priests molested children. Now, it’s using the same tactics to silence a group that gives aid and comfort to the priests’ victims.

So far, the new tactics appear limited to Missouri. None of SNAP’s four New Jersey chapters has been targeted.

SNAP is a support group, a referral center for victims. But the church sees SNAP as ringleaders and organizers. They want to bust SNAP the way sweatshops busted labor unions.

The church’s new legal assault on SNAP is unconscionable. For decades, pedophile priests created thousands of voiceless victims. SNAP gives those victims a voice — and now the bishops want to silence that, too.

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I'm sure Joke, Hen and Andy are very proud, though.

[andy7171]

This has nothing to do with animals fighting or consuming one another but my wife is catholic and I have noticed in going to church with her that the demographics of the catholic churches around Orlando tend to sway older (and substantially northern natives) and heavily hispanic.

Is this a local phenomenon or a is it happening nationwide?

Interesting. What are the demographics for Florida?

What's the hang up with altar boys? Over half of em are girls now anyway.

[D1B]

New catholic child abuse cases: March 22 2012

Kalispell, MT

ather Rudolph Carl Bullman, 67, is a priest at Risen Christ Parish in Kalispell has been charged with felony sexual abuse of children stemming from his alleged possession of digital images of nude boys on his computer. He was arraigned in Flathead County District Court in Montana. He has been out of jail on his own recognizance and on administrative leave from the Church since 16 November.

He was put on administrative leave as soon as the Roman Catholic Diocese of Helena first learned of the investigation. Diocese spokeswoman Renee St. Martin Wizeman stated “We were made aware of an investigation by the Flathead County Attorney’s Office and at that time he was placed on administrative leave, which is what our policies and procedures call for.”

Bullman apparently has been living in a non-ministerial setting off of parish housing. She stated “We have cooperated fully with the investigation. We will see what happens going forward, but it is important to emphasize that we do have policies in place specifically for these matters.”

The investigation began when in October 2011 when a “woman called authorities to report that a Nintendo DS game console she’d purchased from Bullman contained photos of nude and underage boys.”

Belleville, IL

BELLEVILLE -- Three lawsuits settled on Tuesday in St. Clair County Court involving two priests of the Catholic Diocese of Belleville brings to at least five the number of victims of sexual abuse of a minor by a priest of the diocese that have resulted in monetary damages.

While the previous payouts total $7.5 million for two lawsuits -- $6.3 million paid to James Wisniewski last year and $1.2 million to a victim identified only as "John Doe" in 2009 -- the amount of damages in the newly announced agreements is confidential by agreement of the parties.

Belleville plaintiffs attorney Mike Weilmuenster said the agreement to settle the lawsuits contained a clause in each stating that the exact amount of damages cannot be disclosed. However, he said, "It is a substantial sum."

Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2012/03/22/2110317/b ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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[Vidav]

[andy7171]

You can store pictures on a DS?

[Vidav]

You can store pictures on a DS?

Some (most?) have cameras built into them.

[D1B]

You can store pictures on a DS?

Yes, the catholic priest's Nintendo DS had child pornography on it and he was arrested.

[andy7171]

You can store pictures on a DS?

Yes, the catholic priest's Nintendo DS had child pornography on it and he was arrested.

I've got three DS's at home and didn't know this.

And good to hear the church acted immediately and alerted authorities. Let's hope for a fast conviction and defrocking.

[D1B]

Yes, the catholic priest's Nintendo DS had child pornography on it and he was arrested.

I've got three DS's at home and didn't know this.

And good to hear the church acted immediately and alerted authorities. Let's hope for a fast conviction and defrocking.

67 years old too. I wonder how many kids he's raped during his long tenure in the church? 100's perhaps?

If the church had their act together centuries ago, those children would have been spared a lifetime of shame and pain.

Better late than never, but really, lets be honest, the church will do whatever it can to avoid accountability and will not cooperate with prosecuters.

More than likely, this priest will end living a comfortable life in a catholic retreat spa on Martha's Vinyard, like the rest of em.

Utterly shameful.

[lakesbison]

I love my catholic church.

[D1B]

I love my catholic church.

Your in a cult, dummy. EVERYONE looooves their cult.

[lakesbison]

cult? ha ha.. yea, we drink koolaid and all die.

you SUCK for thinking that.

[Grizalltheway]

cult? ha ha.. yea, we drink koolaid and all die.

you SUCK for thinking that.

You drink the "blood" of a zombie in hopes that you'll get to hang with him when you die.

[Vidav]

cult? ha ha.. yea, we drink koolaid and all die.

you SUCK for thinking that.

You drink the "blood" of a zombie in hopes that you'll get to hang with him when you die.

Blood does not equal koolaid.

[D1B]

cult? ha ha.. yea, we drink koolaid and all die.

you SUCK for thinking that.

You better get off the computer before your parents come home, Flicka.