When the CAA loses VCU, ODU, Ga St. who do they add?

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UNH & SBU should be the top two
UNH brings New England Market.
SBU brings NY market. nothing against albany but unh already plays caa fb and sb is already at that level of schollies i believe. i know they would add more but unh has already proven success.
BU has NO football team and isn't superior to UNH or SBU in other sports.
CCU just brings the conference further south. let them join soconn
I know SBU and UNH have to up bball a bit and they will if granted to join for all sports.
they solidify a nothern division for football as well as bball.
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Sounds like they are going to go hard after Davidson and Charleston. Also CCU was given the go ahead by their BoR to look for a new conf.
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In football Stonybrook is a much stronger program. Coastal has never beaten us since we are in the Big South. Last year in a sleet storm on Long Island we threw only 3 passes but ran all over Coastal 42-0. This season I expect the same when we go to Conway.
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UNHWildcat18 wrote:UNH & SBU should be the top two
UNH brings New England Market.
SBU brings NY market. nothing against albany but unh already plays caa fb and sb is already at that level of schollies i believe. i know they would add more but unh has already proven success.
BU has NO football team and isn't superior to UNH or SBU in other sports.
CCU just brings the conference further south. let them join soconn
I know SBU and UNH have to up bball a bit and they will if granted to join for all sports.
they solidify a nothern division for football as well as bball.
Agreed, the top 2 should be SBU and UNH. CAA football has always been a mid Atlantic to New England Conference. Never had a team south of VA. Stony Brook is a step up from Hofstra for football (or at least should become), and both UNH & Stony Brook are better academically than CCU.
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Why add UNH?

If the CAA wants to go North, Albany and BU are both a much better fit in Olympuc Sports than UNH. UNH has struggled outside of football.

CAA already has UNH's best sport and AuNH doesn't add any media market.

Albany Capital District is in the Top 30 in the nation for media markets.
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danefan wrote:Why add UNH?

If the CAA wants to go North, Albany and BU are both a much better fit in Olympuc Sports than UNH. UNH has struggled outside of football.

CAA already has UNH's best sport and AuNH doesn't add any media market.

Albany Capital District is in the Top 30 in the nation for media markets.
Then add Albany too on top of UNH for all sports and Stony Brook. That would make it an even 10 for football and 12 for all sports. After JMU and UD likely leave within the next few years, would leave 8/10.
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The Caa should add Appy State and Georgia Southern immediately.

The CAA is a stepping-stone league to FBS, with the recent examples of ODU and GSU. VCU used it the same way in basketball. GMU and JMU not so much.

THe SOCON is a stepping stone to the nearest WAFFLE HOUSE. Not much upward movement there, unfortunately. Particularly given the quality of the product the SOCON produces.

And JMU was the pile of shit that was stepped upon by teams and administrations that actually had a vision.

As ODU BB coach has said repeatedly...."sometimes you are the dog, and sometimes you are the fire hydrant". JMU must be very tired of being the hydrant.
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JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:The Caa should add Appy State and Georgia Southern immediately.

The CAA is a stepping-stone league to FBS, with the recent examples of ODU and GSU. VCU used it the same way in basketball. GMU and JMU not so much.

THe SOCON is a stepping stone to the nearest WAFFLE HOUSE. Not much upward movement there, unfortunately. Particularly given the quality of the product the SOCON produces.

And JMU was the pile of shit that was stepped upon by teams and administrations that actually had a vision.

As ODU BB coach has said repeatedly...."sometimes you are the dog, and sometimes you are the fire hydrant". JMU must be very tired of being the hydrant.
The three schools you mentioned: Appy, GaSou, JMU. 10 National Championships.

How many does ODU have again in football? How many do you think a C-USA slot is going to bring you?

What was that about a fire hydrant?
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Actually other than StonyBrook ,I could see Elon as a dark horse. App St. has open ambitions to move on to the FBS and I dont see Furman or the Citadel moving at all. C of C and Davidson and maybe Boston Univerity for basketball. BU also is starting a mens lax team next spring which is big in the CAA , and their womens lax team is excellent as are their academics.
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I think the CAA should go after 2 schools w/ football and just 1 of Davidson or Charleston. CAA fb is down to 8, it would be smart to land Stony Brook and CCU to put you at 10 plus keeps you out of trouble in case JMU or Delaware move to the MAC.
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:Delaware move to the MAC.
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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:Delaware move to the MAC.
Did I miss something? :?
Guess you haven't read GoHens lately? The speculators have us going all over the place.
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BU getting involved may indirectly cause an issue for Stony Brook.

Its certainly conceivable that neither Northeastern or Hofstra want another school in their town in their conference.

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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:Delaware move to the MAC.
Did I miss something? :?
MAC rumors, CUSA if they go to 16 rumors. Both involve JMU and Delaware. There's nothing to it right now or I would have JMU and Delaware in my what could happen in the next 3 years thread.

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CAA wants at least 1 in the north Stony Brook or Boston. SBU seems higher to get the CAA 9 for fb. 2 in the south if they can get Davidson, Charleston.

Also JMU and Delaware could leave to MAC and W&M could go to the Patriot.
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Focused on CAA Football only.

VMI maybe
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:Also JMU and Delaware could leave to MAC and W&M could go to the Patriot.
This according to the Davidson basketball coach saying "There are so many kinds of hypotheticals. Maybe James Madison and Delaware will go to the MAC in football or William & Mary to the Patriot."

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93henfan wrote:
JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:The Caa should add Appy State and Georgia Southern immediately.

The CAA is a stepping-stone league to FBS, with the recent examples of ODU and GSU. VCU used it the same way in basketball. GMU and JMU not so much.

THe SOCON is a stepping stone to the nearest WAFFLE HOUSE. Not much upward movement there, unfortunately. Particularly given the quality of the product the SOCON produces.

And JMU was the pile of **** that was stepped upon by teams and administrations that actually had a vision.

As ODU BB coach has said repeatedly...."sometimes you are the dog, and sometimes you are the fire hydrant". JMU must be very tired of being the hydrant.
The three schools you mentioned: Appy, GaSou, JMU. 10 National Championships.

How many does ODU have again in football? How many do you think a C-USA slot is going to bring you?

What was that about a fire hydrant?
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89Hen wrote:
Fresno St. Alum wrote:Also JMU and Delaware could leave to MAC and W&M could go to the Patriot.
This according to the Davidson basketball coach saying "There are so many kinds of hypotheticals. Maybe James Madison and Delaware will go to the MAC in football or William & Mary to the Patriot."

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He's not the only one, the first I heard of it was when CUSA talked to ODU, JMU, Delaware around the time of the final 4.
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What I don't get is that VMI left the SoCon because they couldn't hang, now they want to join the CAA.
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No disrespect to most of the schools being thrown out here...SBU, Liberty, Coastal, ETC. But the CAA just lost it's biggest stars in basketball (ODU and VCU) after almost losing it's other biggest star in basketball (GMU). It also has lost UMASS and ODU in football, the latter a real rising star in the CAA in football. G-state as well. We need to replace these teams with legit anchors for our conference.

Davidson or College of Charleston are good gets for basketball. UNH does make sense, but they do not replace a VCU or ODU. But for football, SBU or Liberty simply doesn't cut it. It almost assures that JMU will be on the move (maybe they will be on the move no matter what). I know APP state and Georgia Southern are looking for FBS and making a lateral move to the CAA isn't the most attractive thing for them, but APP State is in the same position as JMU and would thrive in a conference with similar talent. Georgia Southern would be a tougher sell, but having an APP state in the conference would provide more parady for them as well.

Call it wishful thinking...I think it also happens to be VITAL thinking to those of us who want to see the CAA continue to thrive.
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jmu[b]1-A[/b] wrote:No disrespect to most of the schools being thrown out here...SBU, Liberty, Coastal, ETC. But the CAA just lost it's biggest stars in basketball (ODU and VCU) after almost losing it's other biggest star in basketball (GMU). It also has lost UMASS and ODU in football, the latter a real rising star in the CAA in football. G-state as well. We need to replace these teams with legit anchors for our conference.

Davidson or College of Charleston are good gets for basketball. UNH does make sense, but they do not replace a VCU or ODU. But for football, SBU or Liberty simply doesn't cut it. It almost assures that JMU will be on the move (maybe they will be on the move no matter what). I know APP state and Georgia Southern are looking for FBS and making a lateral move to the CAA isn't the most attractive thing for them, but APP State is in the same position as JMU and would thrive in a conference with similar talent. Georgia Southern would be a tougher sell, but having an APP state in the conference would provide more parady for them as well.

Call it wishful thinking...I think it also happens to be VITAL thinking to those of us who want to see the CAA continue to thrive.
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Ha,

You should read my other rant on the new thread I just posted to the forum titled "CAA too much like the Big East." Honestly I would not mind JMU staying FCS if it were in a really good conference. The CAA is not that conference right now and we've invested too much money in our football stadium to not compete with better talent. If they get some bigger football FCS powerhouses, and maybe a couple of good basketball schools...I would be fine with JMU staying in the FCS. I have UVA for the FBS..but JMU is my undergrad and first love :D
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Fresno St. Alum wrote:He's not the only one, the first I heard of it was when CUSA talked to ODU, JMU, Delaware around the time of the final 4.
C-USA talked to UD. I talked to this hot chick in the elevator yesterday. 8-)
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