NASCAR 2012

[BDKJMU]

Top 25 (of 66) point standings after 10 races:
1. Greg Biffle 378
2. Matt Kennseth 371
3. Dale Earnhardt 369
4. Denny Hamlin 351
5. Kevin Harvick 333
6. Martin Truex 332
7. Tony Stewart 328
8. Jimmie Johnson 324
9. Kyle Busch 308
10. Clint Bowyer 302
11. Carl Edwards 300
12. Brad Keselowski 299
13. Ryan Newman 286
14. Paul Menard 277
15. Joey Logano 259
16. Jamie McMurray 253
17. Juan Pablo Montoya 252
18. Jeff Burton 249
19. Kasey Kahne 246
20. AJ Almengdinger 242
21. Maros Ambrose 239
22. Aric Almirola 237
23. Jeff Gordon 232
24. Mark Martin 218
25. Kurt Busch 215
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[93henfan]

Kahne and Gordon continue to disappoint.

Gordon cannot catch a break this year. Dude must feel like he's a demolition derby driver.

[grizzaholic]

I was pulling for K. Busch yesterday. DAMN it would have been awesome if he had won. The interviews would have been one for the ages.

[89Hen]

Kahne and Gordon continue to disappoint.

Gordon cannot catch a break this year. Dude must feel like he's a demolition derby driver.

Gordon continues to get effed more like it. He's so clear of that accident and 55 comes out of nowhere to end his day (not 55's fault).

[MSUDuo]

Yeah, not a lot the 24 can do about this year. Just a lot of bad luck all around.

Still time to get it turned around but not getting my hopes up

[grizzaholic]

The 24 can get wrecked every race and it wouldn't bother me one bit.

[BDKJMU]

Kahne and Gordon continue to disappoint.

Gordon cannot catch a break this year. Dude must feel like he's a demolition derby driver.

Gordon continues to get effed more like it. He's so clear of that accident and 55 comes out of nowhere to end his day (not 55's fault).

That wasn't the #55 that hit Gordon in the 1st Big One. #55 was driven by Michael Waltrip. Mark Martin is driving the #55 MWR car for most of the season, but Waltrip is signed on to drive it for 7 races, including this past weekend at Talladega. He was involved in the 2nd Big One with 4 laps to go.

#56 Martin Truex was the one who hit Gordon. Truex drives the other MWR car. Wreck is at about the 2 min mark.

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[89Hen]

Gordon continues to get effed more like it. He's so clear of that accident and 55 comes out of nowhere to end his day (not 55's fault).

That wasn't the #55 that hit Gordon in the 1st Big One. #55 was driven by Michael Waltrip. Mark Martin is driving the #55 MWR car for most of the season, but Waltrip is signed on to drive it for 7 races, including this past weekend at Talladega. He was involved in the 2nd Big One with 4 laps to go.

#56 Martin Truex was the one who hit Gordon. Truex drives the other MWR car. Wreck is at about the 2 min mark.

55, 56... whatever.

[93henfan]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

[BlueHen86]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

Enjoy the race, you have nice weather for it.

It's been a while since I've been to a NASCAR race, but I have seen Jr. win at Dover. It would be nice to see him do it again.

[93henfan]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

Enjoy the race, you have nice weather for it.

It's been a while since I've been to a NASCAR race, but I have seen Jr. win at Dover. It would be nice to see him do it again.

He's done it twice before: a Busch series race and then the first Cup race after 9/11. I saw the second one.

Beautiful day for sure. Froze our nuts off last spring.

[BlueHen86]

Enjoy the race, you have nice weather for it.

It's been a while since I've been to a NASCAR race, but I have seen Jr. win at Dover. It would be nice to see him do it again.

He's done it twice before: a Busch series race and then the first Cup race after 9/11. I saw the second one.

Beautiful day for sure. Froze our nuts off last spring.

I was a Jerry Nadeau fan. Jerry finished 2nd the day Jr won. Jerry started near the back (around 40th I think), picked off about 30 cars then got stuck behind a wreck and lost about 10 spots. He then picked off another 20 cars and ended up battling Jr for the win. Jr was too fast at the end.

[DSUrocks07]

I would love for Jr. to get off the snide today. I wish I could see a race but I'm always working in the hotel on Race Weekend.

Side note: rumors are going around that if the lack of attendance trend continues that Dover might end up losing one of their race dates.

[93henfan]

I would love for Jr. to get off the snide today. I wish I could see a race but I'm always working in the hotel on Race Weekend.

Side note: rumors are going around that if the lack of attendance trend continues that Dover might end up losing one of their race dates.

Dover would be at risk regardless, because it's one of only three tracks (Indy and Pocono the others) that aren't part of the two major conglomerates.

If they were to be honest, there can't be much more than 50k here today, in a 140k facility.

[93henfan]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

Well shit. Bud Light Lime doesn't make one clairvoyant apparently.

[Grizo406]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

Well shit. Bud Light Lime doesn't make one clairvoyant apparently.

[DSUrocks07]

I would love for Jr. to get off the snide today. I wish I could see a race but I'm always working in the hotel on Race Weekend.

Side note: rumors are going around that if the lack of attendance trend continues that Dover might end up losing one of their race dates.

Dover would be at risk regardless, because it's one of only three tracks (Indy and Pocono the others) that aren't part of the two major conglomerates.

If they were to be honest, there can't be much more than 50k here today, in a 140k facility.

I guess "selling" would be a better word than losing. And rumors were that there were barely 60k+ tickets sold. Also there was a "seat-widening" project done late last year that made the seats go from 18" to 22", lowering the capacity to 120k.

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[Ivytalk]

At the Monster Mile. Race day.

I feel dirty. I just drank a Bud Light Lime. It was free, so I couldn't turn it down.

Anyway, I feel a disturbance in the force, so I'm going to go ahead and call it. Dale Jr. breaks the streak and wins today.

Well ****. Bud Light Lime doesn't make one clairvoyant apparently.

Hey, beyotch, what section were you in? I was ushering in 226, and I saw a bunch of drunks but none that vaguely resembled you!

[93henfan]

Well ****. Bud Light Lime doesn't make one clairvoyant apparently.

Hey, beyotch, what section were you in? I was ushering in 226, and I saw a bunch of drunks but none that vaguely resembled you!

My family has been in 101 top row since the first race in 1969. I was still in my dad's left nut.

[bluehenbillk]

I would love for Jr. to get off the snide today. I wish I could see a race but I'm always working in the hotel on Race Weekend.

Side note: rumors are going around that if the lack of attendance trend continues that Dover might end up losing one of their race dates.

Dover would be at risk regardless, because it's one of only three tracks (Indy and Pocono the others) that aren't part of the two major conglomerates.

If they were to be honest, there can't be much more than 50k here today, in a 140k facility.

Really???!!!

I didn't see the race but only 50k?? Last time I went to Dover was back in the mid-90's & it was packed to the gills then.

[93henfan]

Dover would be at risk regardless, because it's one of only three tracks (Indy and Pocono the others) that aren't part of the two major conglomerates.

If they were to be honest, there can't be much more than 50k here today, in a 140k facility.

Really???!!!

I didn't see the race but only 50k?? Last time I went to Dover was back in the mid-90's & it was packed to the gills then.

Dover filled every seat up until about four years ago when the economy tanked and it's been a sharp decline ever since.

I've been on record many times here. I think it's a combo of:
Bad economy
The Chase format
The domination of Jimmie Johnson
The death of Dale Earnhardt Sr.
The failures of Dale Earnhardt Jr., the heir apparent
The NASCAR movement westward and abandonment of its Southern core/slashing of races in the Carolinas
Really, really boring racing (again, due to Chase format) and way too many commercials on the TV broadcasts

I could go on...

[93henfan]

Here's a glimpse of the attendance in the turns yesterday, and this is in the areas that weren't completely covered over with tarp billboards:

[93henfan]

Dover would be at risk regardless, because it's one of only three tracks (Indy and Pocono the others) that aren't part of the two major conglomerates.

If they were to be honest, there can't be much more than 50k here today, in a 140k facility.

I guess "selling" would be a better word than losing. And rumors were that there were barely 60k+ tickets sold. Also there was a "seat-widening" project done late last year that made the seats go from 18" to 22", lowering the capacity to 120k.

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I wasn't aware of the seat-widening, and it hasn't made it to my section yet, but you are correct. Here is the story. Looks like the seating capacity will be reduced by about 30,000 seats:

http://www.doverspeedway.com/news_conte ... n-in-2012/

[TheDancinMonarch]

Really???!!!

I didn't see the race but only 50k?? Last time I went to Dover was back in the mid-90's & it was packed to the gills then.

Dover filled every seat up until about four years ago when the economy tanked and it's been a sharp decline ever since.

I've been on record many times here. I think it's a combo of:
Bad economy
The Chase format
The domination of Jimmie Johnson
The death of Dale Earnhardt Sr.
The failures of Dale Earnhardt Jr., the heir apparent
The NASCAR movement westward and abandonment of its Southern core/slashing of races in the Carolinas
Really, really boring racing (again, due to Chase format) and way too many commercials on the TV broadcasts

I could go on...

We could all go on. Ever since they signed the national TV contracts with FOX and NBC everything they have done was wrong but I'll add 3.

Eliminating the last 100 laps at Dover. It was that driver and equipment got tired and "things happened". The NASCAR solution was to eliminate those last 100 laps resulting in total boredom.

Repaving Bristol and changing the banking. The result was 500 laps of mind-numbing boredom.

The emphasis of teammates. Does anyone think that Bobby Allison would give a lap back to Richard Petty? Not likely. But with so many teammates that was happening until the caution rules were changed so they created the "lucky dog" so someone would get a lap back. I would prefer 43 independent contractors competing against one another for blood and glory.

Bill France always referred to the races as "The Show". They need to get back to that as opposed to the clean corporate look they have adopted.

[Ivytalk]

I guess "selling" would be a better word than losing. And rumors were that there were barely 60k+ tickets sold. Also there was a "seat-widening" project done late last year that made the seats go from 18" to 22", lowering the capacity to 120k.

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I wasn't aware of the seat-widening, and it hasn't made it to my section yet, but you are correct. Here is the story. Looks like the seating capacity will be reduced by about 30,000 seats:

http://www.doverspeedway.com/news_conte ... n-in-2012/

So the seat-widening "reduces" capacity to 113,000? Still 30,000 too many IMHO. Will the younger generation get into NASCAR the way their parents did?