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Blow by him?


He might not be lightning quick but he is quick enough to stay in front of everyone of those with the exception of a handful.

The Lakers don't need him to be a lock down defender...with the size they have down low there won't be many PG's driving in the lane.


If we were talking a 38 year old wing man, sure I'd listen to it. We aren't.

The Lakers don't need a young athletic starting PG, they have Sessions who is a very capable back up to spell Nash. They need someone to actually run the offense. That is what Nash give them.
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grizzaholic wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Yes offensively he is a major upgrade over what ,they have now but as stated what about the other end ,plus he has a bad back as well.You don't think others teams will have trouble ,spotting a 40 yr old point guard on the defensive side of the ball yeah right!!!!
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Okay Griz why do you think Nash will lead the Lakers to the promise land????
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dal4018 wrote:
grizzaholic wrote: :rofl:
Okay Griz why do you think Nash will lead the Lakers to the promise land????
That is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Do I think, JEBUS. I don't know 2 thinks about the NBA.
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clenz wrote:Blow by him?


He might not be lightning quick but he is quick enough to stay in front of everyone of those with the exception of a handful.

The Lakers don't need him to be a lock down defender...with the size they have down low there won't be many PG's driving in the lane.


If we were talking a 38 year old wing man, sure I'd listen to it. We aren't.

The Lakers don't need a young athletic starting PG, they have Sessions who is a very capable back up to spell Nash. They need someone to actually run the offense. That is what Nash give them.
Granted but he will still be asked to play some defense.
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grizzaholic wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Okay Griz why do you think Nash will lead the Lakers to the promise land????
That is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. Do I think, JEBUS. I don't know 2 thinks about the NBA.
So why did you respond to what I said about Nash????
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dal4018 wrote:
clenz wrote:Blow by him?


He might not be lightning quick but he is quick enough to stay in front of everyone of those with the exception of a handful.

The Lakers don't need him to be a lock down defender...with the size they have down low there won't be many PG's driving in the lane.


If we were talking a 38 year old wing man, sure I'd listen to it. We aren't.

The Lakers don't need a young athletic starting PG, they have Sessions who is a very capable back up to spell Nash. They need someone to actually run the offense. That is what Nash give them.
Granted but he will still be asked to play some defense.
Which hey can do. He is better on d than over half the starting Peg in the league in that side of the court.

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clenz wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Yes offensively he is a major upgrade over what ,they have now but as stated what about the other end ,plus he has a bad back as well.You don't think others teams will have trouble ,spotting a 40 yr old point guard on the defensive side of the ball yeah right!!!!
They will have trouble spotting a 40 year old point guard because HE ISN'T **** 40 YOU ****.


Name me a lock down PG defender...Parker? Nope.
Westbrook? Nope.
Lin? Nope.
Williams? Nope.
Kidd? Nope.
Paul? Probably top 2 or 3 for PGs
Rondo? Probably top 2 or 3 for PG's.
Rose? Probably top 2 or 3 for PGs.
Fisher? Nope.
Ridnour? Nope.
Chalmers? Not really.
Lowery? Nope.
Davis? Nope.
Collison? Not really.
Augustin? Nope.
Lawson? No one in Denver plays defense.
Calderon? Nope
Conley, Jr? Nope.
Hinrich? Hell no.
Mo Williams? Not really.
Holiday? Not really.
Jennings? Nope
Curry? Nope
Felton? Nope
Harris? Good off ball, not lock down though.
Wall? Nope
Stuckey? Nope
Nelson? Nope
Not many good defensive PGs, but Hinrich is the best defensive guy on that list. Rose is a terrible defender, so not sure what league you are watching. Lowry is solid.
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Roy and Batum sign with the T-Wolves.
Portland can match Batum

FWIW - Rubio was developing into a good defender.
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Over $400M in contracts have been handed out in the last 72 hours.

Jeremy Lin and Eric Gordon played a combined 44 games last season, and have been offered a combined $88M.

Owners better not use the word "broke" again.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Roy and Batum sign with the T-Wolves.
Portland can match Batum

FWIW - Rubio was developing into a good defender.
Wolves were the only team in the league to offer Roy 2 years. When the Blazers amnestied Roy, some doctors around the league felt that if he continued to play, he would be in a wheelchair by the time he was 35. Two years seems to be a bit risky.

Blazers have said they will match any offer for Batum. The idea behind Batum becoming RFA was to actually determine what value he would command on the market. It was a given from the start that the Blazers would match any "reasonable" offer, contrary to anything Batum's agent may think. Wolves would be wise not to listen much to what his agent says.
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JALMOND wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Roy and Batum sign with the T-Wolves.
Portland can match Batum

FWIW - Rubio was developing into a good defender.
Wolves were the only team in the league to offer Roy 2 years. When the Blazers amnestied Roy, some doctors around the league felt that if he continued to play, he would be in a wheelchair by the time he was 35. Two years seems to be a bit risky.

Blazers have said they will match any offer for Batum. The idea behind Batum becoming RFA was to actually determine what value he would command on the market. It was a given from the start that the Blazers would match any "reasonable" offer, contrary to anything Batum's agent may think. Wolves would be wise not to listen much to what his agent says.
I agree, don't think Portland will let Batum go.

Been hearing the Wolves are going to limit Roy's minutes to try and maximize his output, and keep him going a little longer.
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JALMOND wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Roy and Batum sign with the T-Wolves.
Portland can match Batum

FWIW - Rubio was developing into a good defender.
Wolves were the only team in the league to offer Roy 2 years. When the Blazers amnestied Roy, some doctors around the league felt that if he continued to play, he would be in a wheelchair by the time he was 35. Two years seems to be a bit risky.

Blazers have said they will match any offer for Batum. The idea behind Batum becoming RFA was to actually determine what value he would command on the market. It was a given from the start that the Blazers would match any "reasonable" offer, contrary to anything Batum's agent may think. Wolves would be wise not to listen much to what his agent says.
What was the extent of Roy's injury heard that it was some type special disorder that forced him into retirement????
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dal4018 wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Wolves were the only team in the league to offer Roy 2 years. When the Blazers amnestied Roy, some doctors around the league felt that if he continued to play, he would be in a wheelchair by the time he was 35. Two years seems to be a bit risky.

Blazers have said they will match any offer for Batum. The idea behind Batum becoming RFA was to actually determine what value he would command on the market. It was a given from the start that the Blazers would match any "reasonable" offer, contrary to anything Batum's agent may think. Wolves would be wise not to listen much to what his agent says.
What was the extent of Roy's injury heard that it was some type special disorder that forced him into retirement????
He lacked cartilage between the bones of both knees.
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dal4018 wrote:
JALMOND wrote:
Wolves were the only team in the league to offer Roy 2 years. When the Blazers amnestied Roy, some doctors around the league felt that if he continued to play, he would be in a wheelchair by the time he was 35. Two years seems to be a bit risky.

Blazers have said they will match any offer for Batum. The idea behind Batum becoming RFA was to actually determine what value he would command on the market. It was a given from the start that the Blazers would match any "reasonable" offer, contrary to anything Batum's agent may think. Wolves would be wise not to listen much to what his agent says.
What was the extent of Roy's injury heard that it was some type special disorder that forced him into retirement????
Roy has had several knee surgeries since his junior year in high school that have basically torn away all the cartilage in both knees. Also, Roy never retired per se, Blazers amnesited him after the lockout last season and thought that he would retire. The Blazers offered many "Brandon Roy nights" to Roy during the season but it was Roy that turned them down. Supposedly, he has been working out last year and this summer and felt like he could play.

From me, I like the move, provided he can play. It was time for the Blazers to turn the page on the Brandon Roy story and time for him to move on as well. Even without him last season, Blazer fans still regarded the Blazers as "Brandon's team" (given the play of the team, perhaps some players thought that as well).

As for the Batum situation, the Blazers would like to get Hibbard signed first on July 11 and then Batum. They own Batum's Bird rights which gives them the opportunity to exceed the salary cap with Batum's contract without penalty, provided that Batum's salary would put the Blazers over the cap. However, if they sign Batum and then Hibbard, Hibbard's contract would count against the salary cap and the Blazers would have to pay the penalty. Batum's agent has been A#1 jackass throughout this ordeal that I don't think he will give the Blazers that luxury. I'm thinking he will get the Wolves' offer immediately and force the Blazers to deal with Batum first, given how all this has gone down since January. If the Blazers go over the cap with Hibbard and pay the penalty, it would seriously jeopardize their chances at bringing in a veteran PG to mentor Lillard, whereas it would be easier if they deal with Batum second.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:What was the extent of Roy's injury heard that it was some type special disorder that forced him into retirement????
He lacked cartilage between the bones of both knees.
Is this hereditary !!!!!!
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Blazers were informed today of Indiana's intent to match the Blazers offer to Hibbard. Seems like he will stay with the Pacers. Blazers will now turn their attention to Kaman. Also, they are one of three teams (Dallas and Houston are the others) able to bid on Brand provided the Sixers amnesty him (and it sound like that will happen).
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clenz wrote:
dal4018 wrote:How ,will a 40 yr old point guard help the Lakers ,he has never been known as a great defender .And teams will spot him as a liability on defense.His teammates ,will have to compensate to help him that ,means the man that they are guarding will have free reign to do whatever they please.
Yeah....a PG that puts up 13 points and 10 assists per game is a terrible get.


He will be great to run pick and rolls with Pau and Bynum. Their production will go go, and teams having to adjust to defending that will open Kobe up as well....along with him not having to play point as well as 2 at the same time.
This. Great pick up by the Lake Show. :nod:
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Miami gets Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis. Misses out on Marcus Camby. Still need a center. Unless Joel Anthony becomes some sort of an offensive threat.

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After 10 days of speculation, actual free agent signings will happen at midnight EDT. Regarding Batum, the Blazers have adopted a "wait and see" approach. They will have 72 hours to decide whether to match Minnesota's offer or let Batum go. Last week I would have given a 95% chance of Batum staying in Portland. Now, I still think he stays but I'd put it at around 60%. Also, it is unclear how the Wolves plan on getting the money to pay Batum. When all is put to paper, the actual offer could be quite less.
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JALMOND wrote:After 10 days of speculation, actual free agent signings will happen at midnight EDT. Regarding Batum, the Blazers have adopted a "wait and see" approach. They will have 72 hours to decide whether to match Minnesota's offer or let Batum go. Last week I would have given a 95% chance of Batum staying in Portland. Now, I still think he stays but I'd put it at around 60%. Also, it is unclear how the Wolves plan on getting the money to pay Batum. When all is put to paper, the actual offer could be quite less.
Wolves did not resign Beasley or Randolph, so they have plenty of room. Still not sure Portland won't resign Batum.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
JALMOND wrote:After 10 days of speculation, actual free agent signings will happen at midnight EDT. Regarding Batum, the Blazers have adopted a "wait and see" approach. They will have 72 hours to decide whether to match Minnesota's offer or let Batum go. Last week I would have given a 95% chance of Batum staying in Portland. Now, I still think he stays but I'd put it at around 60%. Also, it is unclear how the Wolves plan on getting the money to pay Batum. When all is put to paper, the actual offer could be quite less.
Wolves did not resign Beasley or Randolph, so they have plenty of room. Still not sure Portland won't resign Batum.
Most beat writers as well as NBA.com are thinking the Wolves still would have to release Webster and possibly need to amnesty Milicic to get to the 45-50 million. As far as a sign and trade, there is only one person on the Wolves that the Blazers would consider taking, and being that the Wolves did not give Love the max deal that he wanted last year, the numbers would be fairly close (although the Wolves would be quite foolish to even think that route).

Also, if Batum is truly unhappy in Portland, he can choose not to sign the Blazers match, play next season for his current salary (5.5 million) and become unrestricted next season. But would you give up 12 mil a year for 5.5?

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JALMOND wrote: Most beat writers as well as NBA.com are thinking the Wolves still would have to release Webster and possibly need to amnesty Milicic to get to the 45-50 million. As far as a sign and trade, there is only one person on the Wolves that the Blazers would consider taking, and being that the Wolves did not give Love the max deal that he wanted last year, the numbers would be fairly close (although the Wolves would be quite foolish to even think that route).

Also, if Batum is truly unhappy in Portland, he can choose not to sign the Blazers match, play next season for his current salary (5.5 million) and become unrestricted next season. But would you give up 12 mil a year for 5.5?

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There has been a lot of talk of releasing Webster. Darko pizzed off Adelman last season by not being in shape and almost puking during a game.
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The Wolves signed the Russian Rubio...................hope that isn't racist. :coffee:
With the clock ticking toward the start of free-agency signings tonight, the Wolves today reached agreement with Russian 6-6 guard Alexey Shved on a multi-year contract, NBA sources said.
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Scuttlebutt says that the Blazers offered some sort of deal to Lopez of the Nets. Moot point as he will stay with Brooklyn.

Wolves trying to orchestrate a sign and trade for Batum by bringing in a third team with speculation that it is Chicago. From what I gather, Bulls get Ridnaur, Blazers get Korver and two first round picks from Minny, and the Wolves get Batum. Even so, Blazers still adamant they are not interested in sign and trade and will match any offer for Batum. If they can't get the deal done, Wolves have said the offer to Batum will be signed by tonight.
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JALMOND wrote:Scuttlebutt says that the Blazers offered some sort of deal to Lopez of the Nets. Moot point as he will stay with Brooklyn.

Wolves trying to orchestrate a sign and trade for Batum by bringing in a third team with speculation that it is Chicago. From what I gather, Bulls get Ridnaur, Blazers get Korver and two first round picks from Minny, and the Wolves get Batum. Even so, Blazers still adamant they are not interested in sign and trade and will match any offer for Batum. If they can't get the deal done, Wolves have said the offer to Batum will be signed by tonight.
Since the Nets backed out of the Howard sweepstakes they had no choice but to sign Humphries.
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