Sandusky Trial

[Willie]

CitadelGrad...are you related to Sandusky, or Paterno? Has to be one or the other.

BUT TATTOOS ARE BAD GODDAMMIT! Jesus Christ your football program is an abomination and should be terminated.

[rkwittem]

CitadelGrad...are you related to Sandusky, or Paterno? Has to be one or the other.

BUT TATTOOS ARE BAD GODDAMMIT! Jesus Christ your football program is an abomination and should be terminated.

Now we get to wait and see if the NCAA slams the Death Penalty on PSU for lack of institutional control or lack of ethics. Either or. In my opinion, this far exceeds any wrongdoing at SMU in the 80s.

[dbackjon]

CitadelGrad...are you related to Sandusky, or Paterno? Has to be one or the other.

BUT TATTOOS ARE BAD GODDAMMIT! Jesus Christ your football program is an abomination and should be terminated.

Now we get to wait and see if the NCAA slams the Death Penalty on PSU for lack of institutional control or lack of ethics. Either or. In my opinion, this far exceeds any wrongdoing at SMU in the 80s.

Report notes compliance office was understaffed.


Death Penalty is warranted.

[clenz]

Chances the B1G steps in at some point and asks them to leave?

[Willie]

Asks? I would give them the size 14.

[AZGrizFan]

Where's Franks TAnks!

Joe Paterno and other top Penn State officials hushed up child sex abuse allegations against Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago for fear of bad publicity, allowing the former assistant football coach to prey on other youngsters, according to a scathing report issued Thursday on the scandal.

"Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety and welfare of Sandusky's child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State," said former FBI Director Louis Freeh, who was hired by university trustees to look into what has become one of sports' biggest scandals. "The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized."

After an eight-month investigation, Freeh's firm produced a 267-page report that concluded that the Hall of Fame coach, President Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz "repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse."

Paterno "was an integral part of this active decision to conceal" and his firing was justified, Freeh said at a news conference. He called the officials' disregard for child victims "callous and shocking."

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[Willie]

[CitadelGrad]

This is absolute bullshit. There is absolutely no evidence that Paterno persuaded Curley not to report Sandusky. Nobody knows what was said in that meeting except Curley and Paterno. Neither Curley nor Paterno were interviewed by Freeh's team. Curley didn't interview on the advice of his attorney. Paterno requested to be interviewed but the Freeh group declined to interview him. The Freeh group also refused to interview McQueary, even though McQueary also requested to be interviewed.

How can the Freeh report have any meaning when Freeh and his people didn't interview so many key witnesses?

2/25/2001 - Decision to turn Sandusky over made
2/26/2001 - Curley meets with Paterno
2/27/2001 - Decision to NOT turn Sandusky in.
WTF!?!

That was Curley's decision and he will have to provide an explanation at his trial. If you know what was said during that meeting, please provide a transcript. If not, STFU.

[CitadelGrad]

Again, this is all bullshit. There is no evidence to support those statements.

Good lord you are one fucking stupid mother fucker.

Paterno KNEW Sandusky was raping boys. In 1998.

If you are a typical Penn State fan, then the whole fucking University should be nuked, because you are too fucking dumb to exist.

How do you know Paterno knew in 1998. Many people have said it, but not one person has provided any evidence. The Freeh Report said there is evidence then failed to present it. That means it is nothing more than speculation by someone who wants to hang a dead guy.

[CitadelGrad]

This is absolute bullshit. There is absolutely no evidence that Paterno persuaded Curley not to report Sandusky. Nobody knows what was said in that meeting except Curley and Paterno. Neither Curley nor Paterno were interviewed by Freeh's team. Curley didn't interview on the advice of his attorney. Paterno requested to be interviewed but the Freeh group declined to interview him. The Freeh group also refused to interview McQueary, even though McQueary also requested to be interviewed.

How can the Freeh report have any meaning when Freeh and his people didn't interview so many key witnesses?

Had the report cleared Paterno you'd be all over it saying "TOLD YOU"


Face it, Paterno knew...Paterno was part of the cover up.


Paterno didn't turn a criminal over to the police.....


Paterno fucked up and deserves to rot in hell.

Paterno reported his conversation with McQueary to the university VP who had direct oversight of the Penn State Police Dept. He also set up a meeting with Curley, that VP and McQueary.

[CitadelGrad]

This is absolute bullshit. There is absolutely no evidence that Paterno persuaded Curley not to report Sandusky. Nobody knows what was said in that meeting except Curley and Paterno. Neither Curley nor Paterno were interviewed by Freeh's team. Curley didn't interview on the advice of his attorney. Paterno requested to be interviewed but the Freeh group declined to interview him. The Freeh group also refused to interview McQueary, even though McQueary also requested to be interviewed.

How can the Freeh report have any meaning when Freeh and his people didn't interview so many key witnesses?

Had the report cleared Paterno you'd be all over it saying "TOLD YOU"


Face it, Paterno knew...Paterno was part of the cover up.


Paterno didn't turn a criminal over to the police.....


Paterno fucked up and deserves to rot in hell.

Paterno reported his conversation with McQueary to the university VP who had direct oversight of the Penn State Police Dept. He also set up a meeting with Curley, that VP and McQueary.

[AZGrizFan]

2/25/2001 - Decision to turn Sandusky over made
2/26/2001 - Curley meets with Paterno
2/27/2001 - Decision to NOT turn Sandusky in.
WTF!?!

That was Curley's decision and he will have to provide an explanation at his trial. If you know what was said during that meeting, please provide a transcript. If not, STFU.

I'll take the word of the former director of the FBI over your less-than-objective view, thank you very much.

[CitadelGrad]

That was Curley's decision and he will have to provide an explanation at his trial. If you know what was said during that meeting, please provide a transcript. If not, STFU.

I'll take the word of the former director of the FBI over your less-than-objective view, thank you very much.

If Freeh could have provided any information from that meeting, he would have. He didn't. The only people who were in that meeting did not meet with Freeh. Curley refused. Paterno tried to meet with Freeh's people but they declined. Any speculation about what was said in that meeting is just that -- speculation.

Freeh is generally regarded as one of the most incompetent FBI directors in its history. J. Edgar he ain't.

[dbackjon]

Short of a video showing Paterno tag-teaming a boy with Sandusky, nothing is going to change the Penn State cultists minds.

Even that would not be enough for most.

[AZGrizFan]

I'll take the word of the former director of the FBI over your less-than-objective view, thank you very much.

If Freeh could have provided any information from that meeting, he would have. He didn't. The only people who were in that meeting did not meet with Freeh. Curley refused. Paterno tried to meet with Freeh's people but they declined. Any speculation about what was said in that meeting is just that -- speculation.

Freeh is generally regarded as one of the most incompetent FBI directors in its history. J. Edgar he ain't.

Dude, your character-assassination of anyone who remotely challenges your beliefs regarding Paterno's involvement is getting comical. The only "incompetent" ones here are Curley, Paterno, Spanier and Schultz.

Curley refused to speak with Freeh "on the advice of his attorney". That should tell anyone all they need to know.

[CitadelGrad]

If Freeh could have provided any information from that meeting, he would have. He didn't. The only people who were in that meeting did not meet with Freeh. Curley refused. Paterno tried to meet with Freeh's people but they declined. Any speculation about what was said in that meeting is just that -- speculation.

Freeh is generally regarded as one of the most incompetent FBI directors in its history. J. Edgar he ain't.

Dude, your character-assassination of anyone who remotely challenges your beliefs regarding Paterno's involvement is getting comical. The only "incompetent" ones here are Curley, Paterno, Spanier and Schultz.

Curley refused to speak with Freeh "on the advice of his attorney". That should tell anyone all they need to know.

It tells me he's getting good legal advice. Curley is guilty, but his attorney did what he is getting paid to do.

[rkwittem]

I'll take the word of the former director of the FBI over your less-than-objective view, thank you very much.

If Freeh could have provided any information from that meeting, he would have. He didn't. The only people who were in that meeting did not meet with Freeh. Curley refused. Paterno tried to meet with Freeh's people but they declined. Any speculation about what was said in that meeting is just that -- speculation.

Freeh is generally regarded as one of the most incompetent FBI directors in its history. J. Edgar he ain't.

And Joe Pa will be regarded as one of the gutless coaches in history. Bo Schembechler he ain't.

[FargoBison]

Good lord you are one fucking stupid mother fucker.

Paterno KNEW Sandusky was raping boys. In 1998.

If you are a typical Penn State fan, then the whole fucking University should be nuked, because you are too fucking dumb to exist.

How do you know Paterno knew in 1998. Many people have said it, but not one person has provided any evidence. The Freeh Report said there is evidence then failed to present it. That means it is nothing more than speculation by someone who wants to hang a dead guy.

Are you serious? How wouldn't Paterno know about 1998. Any head coach worth a shit would know about that, let alone
Joe fricking Paterno. It is time to come to grips with reality and stop with this fanboy nonsense.

[CitadelGrad]

How do you know Paterno knew in 1998. Many people have said it, but not one person has provided any evidence. The Freeh Report said there is evidence then failed to present it. That means it is nothing more than speculation by someone who wants to hang a dead guy.

Are you serious? How wouldn't Paterno know about 1998. Any head coach worth a shit would know about that, let alone
Joe fricking Paterno. It is time to come to grips with reality and stop with this fanboy nonsense.

Why would he have known about 1998? It isn't even clear that anyone at Penn State knew about the 1998 investigation. Penn State played no part in that. Even if someone in the administration knew, there are privacy laws that would have prevented anyone from informing Paterno.

[CitadelGrad]

If Freeh could have provided any information from that meeting, he would have. He didn't. The only people who were in that meeting did not meet with Freeh. Curley refused. Paterno tried to meet with Freeh's people but they declined. Any speculation about what was said in that meeting is just that -- speculation.

Freeh is generally regarded as one of the most incompetent FBI directors in its history. J. Edgar he ain't.

And Joe Pa will be regarded as one of the gutless coaches in history. Bo Schembechler he ain't.

You're right. Schembechler was a cunt.

[FargoBison]

Are you serious? How wouldn't Paterno know about 1998. Any head coach worth a shit would know about that, let alone
Joe fricking Paterno. It is time to come to grips with reality and stop with this fanboy nonsense.

Why would he have known about 1998? It isn't even clear that anyone at Penn State knew about the 1998 investigation. Penn State played no part in that. Even if someone in the administration knew, there are privacy laws that would have prevented anyone from informing Paterno.

He knew about it, he lied about it. Based on how it all played out it was obvious to me that he knew about it from the start and this report just continues to hammer that home. Face it the man fucked up and did so bigtime.

[Willie]

You're right. Schembechler was a cunt.

And so are you. Nice program ya got over there in Not Happy Valley.

[CitadelGrad]

Why would he have known about 1998? It isn't even clear that anyone at Penn State knew about the 1998 investigation. Penn State played no part in that. Even if someone in the administration knew, there are privacy laws that would have prevented anyone from informing Paterno.

He knew about it, he lied about it. Based on how it all played out it was obvious to me that he knew about it from the start and this report just continues to hammer that home. Face it the man fucked up and did so bigtime.

Where's the evidence. Freeh spent months up there and couldn't find any. I doubt that you've found any.

[FargoBison]

He knew about it, he lied about it. Based on how it all played out it was obvious to me that he knew about it from the start and this report just continues to hammer that home. Face it the man fucked up and did so bigtime.

Where's the evidence. Freeh spent months up there and couldn't find any. I doubt that you've found any.

Freeh found multiple emails, do you think he is just pulling things out of thin air?

A followup email from the campus police director informs Schultz that Sandusky had showered with other boys. The Penn State officials knew there was a pattern with Sandusky. Schultz’s notes from May 4 1998 even show that he wondered if the 1998 shower incident would open a “pandora’s box” of sexual incidents involving Sandusky.

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So much for nobody at Penn State knowing about it......Face it Joe Paterno knew about it 1998, spare me bs about privacy laws. His longtime defensive coordinator was under a police investigation for showering and having inappropriate contact with a little boy, IN HIS FOOTBALL LOCKER ROOM! It wasn't like it was some event that happened off campus, it was right under Joe Pa's roof.

[93henfan]

Awkward headline on CNN:

Findings Taint Paterno Reputation

They said "taint". Huh huh huh.