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"Coach is anxious to know where it stands." could be referring to Sandusky.
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CitadelGrad wrote:"Coach is anxious to know where it stands." could be referring to Sandusky.
I wonder what he's anxious about? This 1998 email trail mentions Sandusky, young boys, child psychologists, resolving things quickly... I wonder what the old man knew and did not know....

I mean with the benifit of hindsight knowing Sandusky just got convicted on 48 some counts of child molestation and this first occurance coming to light in 1998. Not much of a leap there is it?
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He knew about it, he lied about it. Based on how it all played out it was obvious to me that he knew about it from the start and this report just continues to hammer that home. Face it the man **** up and did so bigtime.
Where's the evidence. Freeh spent months up there and couldn't find any. I doubt that you've found any.
Where's your evidence to the contrary you dumb fuck? You think that Penn State paid this guy to make up the whole report? The state attorney general told Freeh he couldn't talk to any of the critical witnesses. Just be grateful that he didn't, or your athletic department would be 6 feet under for all intents and purposes.
The burden of proof is on Penn State apologists/lackeys/sycophants to prove they did the due diligence federal law, ethics, and basic human decency requires of them. Not us. :tothehand:

Freeh couldn't interview anyone of note because the Pennsylvania Attorney General told him not to. The fact remains that enough people at Penn State knew something was fishy and not a single one of them said a damn thing to the authorities, unless you count JoePa as an "authority."

Give 'em the death penalty, NCAA. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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If CitGrad sticks his head any further in the sand he will have to learn Chinese.

This report does open up the flood gates on the lawsuits headed Pedo State's way. This will cost them plenty...as it should.
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Really good story on CNN about the "Penn State Way," albeit mostly from one person's perspective:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/15/us/tripon ... ?hpt=hp_c1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...And then one day in late 2004, as disciplinary sanctions were being considered against a member of the football team, she received a visit from Paterno's wife, who had tutored the player.

He's a good kid, Sue Paterno said. Could they give him a break?

Triponey realized then that she wasn't in Kansas anymore. Or even Connecticut.

By the next year, 2005, she was battling Paterno himself over who controlled how football players were disciplined. Paterno also chafed over enforcing Penn State's code of conduct off campus.

Spanier called a meeting at which Paterno angrily dominated the conversation, Triponey recalled. She summarized the meeting in an e-mail to Spanier, Athletic Director Tim Curley and others, complaining that Paterno "is insistent that he knows best how to discipline his players" and that her department should back off.

She noted that Paterno preferred to keep the public in the dark about player infractions involving violence, and he pushed for not enforcing the student code of conduct off campus. She added that having "a major problem with Coach Paterno should not be our concern" in making disciplinary decisions...
It really shows how deeply engrained the mindset was, from the President to Paterno to his wife and all the way down to the students and community. Any dissent was effectively ridiculed and squashed.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Really good story on CNN about the "Penn State Way," albeit mostly from one person's perspective:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/15/us/tripon ... ?hpt=hp_c1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...And then one day in late 2004, as disciplinary sanctions were being considered against a member of the football team, she received a visit from Paterno's wife, who had tutored the player.

He's a good kid, Sue Paterno said. Could they give him a break?

Triponey realized then that she wasn't in Kansas anymore. Or even Connecticut.

By the next year, 2005, she was battling Paterno himself over who controlled how football players were disciplined. Paterno also chafed over enforcing Penn State's code of conduct off campus.

Spanier called a meeting at which Paterno angrily dominated the conversation, Triponey recalled. She summarized the meeting in an e-mail to Spanier, Athletic Director Tim Curley and others, complaining that Paterno "is insistent that he knows best how to discipline his players" and that her department should back off.

She noted that Paterno preferred to keep the public in the dark about player infractions involving violence, and he pushed for not enforcing the student code of conduct off campus. She added that having "a major problem with Coach Paterno should not be our concern" in making disciplinary decisions...
It really shows how deeply engrained the mindset was, from the President to Paterno to his wife and all the way down to the students and community. Any dissent was effectively ridiculed and squashed.
Let me save CitGrad the trouble:

She's a lying bitch who should be making sammies. Coach Paterno was a saint that never, ever did anything wrong, and besides, he was just the football coach. The President and AD are the ones to blame.
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dbackjon wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Really good story on CNN about the "Penn State Way," albeit mostly from one person's perspective:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/15/us/tripon ... ?hpt=hp_c1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It really shows how deeply engrained the mindset was, from the President to Paterno to his wife and all the way down to the students and community. Any dissent was effectively ridiculed and squashed.
Let me save CitGrad the trouble:

She's a lying bitch who should be making sammies. Coach Paterno was a saint that never, ever did anything wrong, and besides, he was just the football coach. The President and AD are the ones to blame.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-i ... etpulse%20(MarketWatch.com%20-%20MarketPulse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)&utm_content=FaceBook
BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Federal authorities are investigating whether former Pennsylvania State University assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was part of a child-pornography distribution ring, according to CBS News on Friday. Investigators are also looking into whether Sandusky sent "seductive" letters across state lines for "sexual purposes." The probe is being led by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the U.S. Attorney's Office in Pennsylvania. Sandusky, once a Penn State football icon, was convicted in June of 45 counts of child sexual abuse, some of which occurred on university property.
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clenz wrote:http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-i ... t=FaceBook
BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Federal authorities are investigating whether former Pennsylvania State University assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was part of a child-pornography distribution ring, according to CBS News on Friday. Investigators are also looking into whether Sandusky sent "seductive" letters across state lines for "sexual purposes." The probe is being led by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the U.S. Attorney's Office in Pennsylvania. Sandusky, once a Penn State football icon, was convicted in June of 45 counts of child sexual abuse, some of which occurred on university property.
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rkwittem wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Where's the evidence. Freeh spent months up there and couldn't find any. I doubt that you've found any.
Where's your evidence to the contrary you dumb ****? You think that Penn State paid this guy to make up the whole report? The state attorney general told Freeh he couldn't talk to any of the critical witnesses. Just be grateful that he didn't, or your athletic department would be 6 feet under for all intents and purposes.
The burden of proof is on Penn State apologists/lackeys/sycophants to prove they did the due diligence federal law, ethics, and basic human decency requires of them. Not us. :tothehand:

Freeh couldn't interview anyone of note because the Pennsylvania Attorney General told him not to. The fact remains that enough people at Penn State knew something was fishy and not a single one of them said a damn thing to the authorities, unless you count JoePa as an "authority."

Give 'em the death penalty, NCAA. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
There was a janitor that saw Sandusky molest a young boy but I think he was threaten with termination if he mentioned this as well.
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rkwittem wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Let me save CitGrad the trouble:

She's a lying bitch who should be making sammies. Coach Paterno was a saint that never, ever did anything wrong, and besides, he was just the football coach. The President and AD are the ones to blame.
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Yeah right saw this story on ESPN she was one of the few ppl at Pedophile St that had the moral courage to stand up to Josephine Paterno while he was the coach.By the way Al Pacino has agreed to do a film about Paterno saw this on twitter.
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dal4018 wrote:
rkwittem wrote: Where's your evidence to the contrary you dumb ****? You think that Penn State paid this guy to make up the whole report? The state attorney general told Freeh he couldn't talk to any of the critical witnesses. Just be grateful that he didn't, or your athletic department would be 6 feet under for all intents and purposes.
The burden of proof is on Penn State apologists/lackeys/sycophants to prove they did the due diligence federal law, ethics, and basic human decency requires of them. Not us. :tothehand:

Freeh couldn't interview anyone of note because the Pennsylvania Attorney General told him not to. The fact remains that enough people at Penn State knew something was fishy and not a single one of them said a damn thing to the authorities, unless you count JoePa as an "authority."

Give 'em the death penalty, NCAA. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
There was a janitor that saw Sandusky molest a young boy but I think he was threaten with termination if he mentioned this as well.

I am going to hate myself way more than I actually do already for responding, but you are completely wrong. The janitor was not threatened with termination. The janitor told Freeh's investigators that he didn't report what he saw because he feared for his job. It was his personal perception not a fact. To suggest he was threatened is a complete mis-representation of what was presented in the report.

For example I may have the perception that you are an idiot but it may not be a fact. If I tell other people that I believe you are an idiot it still does not make it a fact.
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dal4018 wrote:
rkwittem wrote: :clap: :clap:
Yeah right saw this story on ESPN she was one of the few ppl at Pedophile St that had the moral courage to stand up to Josephine Paterno while he was the coach.By the way Al Pacino has agreed to do a film about Paterno saw this on twitter.
Joe Paterno suspended many of his players through the years for many reasons, some of them were All-Americans. What "moral courage" does it take to stand up to a football coach. Joe had too many players get in trouble at the end of his career, that is a fact, but he didn't seeep things under the rug or ignore the issue. The woman you speak of and Joe butted heads, but i've seen no evidence that Joe skirted university policy with player discipline.
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Franks Tanks wrote:
dal4018 wrote:There was a janitor that saw Sandusky molest a young boy but I think he was threaten with termination if he mentioned this as well.

I am going to hate myself way more than I actually do already for responding, but you are completely wrong. The janitor was not threatened with termination. The janitor told Freeh's investigators that he didn't report what he saw because he feared for his job. It was his personal perception not a fact. To suggest he was threatened is a complete mis-representation of what was presented in the report.

For example I may have the perception that you are an idiot but it may not be a fact. If I tell other people that I believe you are an idiot it still does not make it a fact.
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Franks Tanks wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Yeah right saw this story on ESPN she was one of the few ppl at Pedophile St that had the moral courage to stand up to Josephine Paterno while he was the coach.By the way Al Pacino has agreed to do a film about Paterno saw this on twitter.
Joe Paterno suspended many of his players through the years for many reasons, some of them were All-Americans. What "moral courage" does it take to stand up to a football coach. Joe had too many players get in trouble at the end of his career, that is a fact, but he didn't seeep things under the rug or ignore the issue. The woman you speak of and Joe butted heads, but i've seen no evidence that Joe skirted university policy with player discipline.
Well she said differently and she had ppl tell her so.
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dal4018 wrote:
Franks Tanks wrote:
Joe Paterno suspended many of his players through the years for many reasons, some of them were All-Americans. What "moral courage" does it take to stand up to a football coach. Joe had too many players get in trouble at the end of his career, that is a fact, but he didn't seeep things under the rug or ignore the issue. The woman you speak of and Joe butted heads, but i've seen no evidence that Joe skirted university policy with player discipline.
Well she said differently and she had ppl tell her so.
What she said is virtually irrelevant. She came out with this when piling on Paterno was not only easy but encouraged. Joe record of player discipline was not perfect, but he often suspended players. For example he suspened all-american LB Dan Connor in 2005, when his infractions would not have cuase him to be suspended by the school.
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I wonder where the children in State College go now when they just want to horse around a little bit?
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93henfan wrote:I wonder where the children in State College go now when they just want to horse around a little bit?
Best guess...one of Paternos sons house. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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