Joe Paterno's Punishment

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:04 pm

He's dead and gone, but with all the evidence coming out, if he were alive, he could have been charged and convicted of child endangerment, perjury and conspiracy. The one punishment that would due him service, would be to have his name stricken from the record books. Let the school and players keep their records, wins and championships, but insert vacant for the coach. What happened at State Penn, is worse than what most, if not all schools/athletes, that have received severe NCAA punishments. Removing his legacy would be the best punishment for Sandusky's Boss.

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Post by **BlueHen86** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:24 pm

He's dead, you can't punish him.

Post by **clenz** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:31 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:He's dead, you can't punish him.

Yet the boys lives he helped ruin can't be repaired...

Post by **grizzaholic** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:38 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:He's dead, you can't punish him.

Sue the estate.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:19 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:He's dead, you can't punish him.
Sue the estate.

That makes more sense than taking Joe's name out of a record book. But... either way, you aren't punishing Joe, like Generalissimo Francisco Franco, he's still dead.

Post by **grizzaholic** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:28 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Sue the estate.
That makes more sense than taking Joe's name out of a record book. But... either way, you aren't punishing Joe, like Generalissimo Francisco Franco, he's still dead.

Post Edit: Something that was not classy by me.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:34 pm

grizzaholic wrote:
Sue the estate.

That would be good too! Punish his legacy.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:39 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Sue the estate.
That would be good too! Punish his legacy.

They won't be suing the estate to punish Joe, they'll sue the estate because they want money. Besides, suing the estate won't punish his legacy anymore than has already been done.

Seawolf97 · Post by **Seawolf97** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:41 pm

What happened over the years at Penn St is beyond evil. Protect the brand at any cost . How many kids were ruined by this. At the very least take down Jo Pa's statue and melt it .

Post by **BlueHen86** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:46 pm

Seawolf97 wrote:What happened over the years at Penn St is beyond evil. Protect the brand at any cost . How many kids were ruined by this. At the very least take down Jo Pa's statue and melt it .

I think the statue has to come down and any buildings named after him should be renamed.

We should also dig Paterno up and put his corpse in the stockade to punish him.

Seahawks08 · Post by **Seahawks08** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:38 pm

I still think the NCAA taking away games/championships is a dumb rule. You can't change the past by just pretending it never happened. That's why I'm in favor of keeping the statue up and having his name still around the university. But I would move the statue into a building where the history of the school is kept (if there is one). We should never try to delete the past no matter how terrible it was, but rather learn from it.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:23 am

Seahawks08 wrote:I still think the NCAA taking away games/championships is a dumb rule. You can't change the past by just pretending it never happened. That's why I'm in favor of keeping the statue up and having his name still around the university. But I would move the statue into a building where the history of the school is kept (if there is one). We should never try to delete the past no matter how terrible it was, but rather learn from it.

The games and records happened and should not be ignored. Leave them be.

On the other hand a statute or building name is there to honor someone. If the person is not worthy of honor then he shouldn't have a statue or building named after him.

grizfnz · Post by **grizfnz** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:48 am

How about moving his statue into the locker room showers.

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Post by **Ibanez** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:15 am

BlueHen86 wrote:
Seahawks08 wrote:I still think the NCAA taking away games/championships is a dumb rule. You can't change the past by just pretending it never happened. That's why I'm in favor of keeping the statue up and having his name still around the university. But I would move the statue into a building where the history of the school is kept (if there is one). We should never try to delete the past no matter how terrible it was, but rather learn from it.
The games and records happened and should not be ignored. Leave them be.

On the other hand a statute or building name is there to honor someone. If the person is not worthy of honor then he shouldn't have a statue or building named after him.

this. This is the best way forward.

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:41 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:He's dead, you can't punish him.

But his family will have to live with the shame of knowing what he allowed that animal to do to those young children and sit back and do nothing just to protect the name of the institution that gave him his official start in coaching.

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:00 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:He's dead and gone, but with all the evidence coming out, if he were alive, he could have been charged and convicted of child endangerment, perjury and conspiracy. The one punishment that would due him service, would be to have his name stricken from the record books. Let the school and players keep their records, wins and championships, but insert vacant for the coach. What happened at State Penn, is worse than what most, if not all schools/athletes, that have received severe NCAA punishments. Removing his legacy would be the best punishment for Sandusky's Boss.

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Post by **BlueHen86** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:31 pm

dal4018 wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:He's dead, you can't punish him.
But his family will have to live with the shame of knowing what he allowed that animal to do to those young children and sit back and do nothing just to protect the name of the institution that gave him his official start in coaching.

So we punish families now? If one of your relatives commits a crime do you think you should be held accountable?

Post by **93henfan** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:30 pm

Hey guys. Stop horsing around before I snap a towel on someone's ass..

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:34 pm

93henfan wrote:Hey guys. Stop horsing around before I snap a towel on someone's ass..

Random question; could I spend the night in your basement tonight? I hear you have all kinds of cool memorabilia and shit down there.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:18 am

Grizalltheway wrote:
93henfan wrote:Hey guys. Stop horsing around before I snap a towel on someone's ass..
Random question; could I spend the night in your basement tonight? I hear you have all kinds of cool memorabilia and shit down there.

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:54 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:
dal4018 wrote:But his family will have to live with the shame of knowing what he allowed that animal to do to those young children and sit back and do nothing just to protect the name of the institution that gave him his official start in coaching.
So we punish families now? If one of your relatives commits a crime do you think you should be held accountable?

Of course not but this country plays a game called Guilt by Association and unfortunately his family will have to suffer the brunt of what went on while he was alive.

Post by **BlueHen86** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:13 am

dal4018 wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
So we punish families now? If one of your relatives commits a crime do you think you should be held accountable?
Of course not but this country plays a game called Guilt by Association and unfortunately his family will have to suffer the brunt of what went on while he was alive.

And how does that punish Joe Pa? Like I said in my original point, he's dead, you can't punish him. Not sure what your point about the family has to do with that.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:03 am

Of course you can't punish a dead person's body or mind. Isn't it wonderful that when someone asks which head coach lead his team to the most victories in major college history, it will be Joe Paterno. All this crap happened with his knowledge, and a couple generations from now it may be Joe Paterno still on top of the record book lists, and all that crap will not be known by future generations that passively look at the lists, and think what a great coach he must have been, unless they research Paterno's past. IMO, this is worse than paying players and giving gifts.

dal4018 · Post by **dal4018** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:43 pm

BlueHen86 wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Of course not but this country plays a game called Guilt by Association and unfortunately his family will have to suffer the brunt of what went on while he was alive.
And how does that punish Joe Pa? Like I said in my original point, he's dead, you can't punish him. Not sure what your point about the family has to do with that.

I never said anything about punishing Paterno just stating that his family will have to live with the knowledge he allowed these acts of sexual depravity by Sandusky to go unpunished.Everytime somebody from the media sees a member of his family this uncomfortable subject will be brought to their attention and their is nothing they will be able to do about it!!!

Post by **BlueHen86** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:42 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:Of course you can't punish a dead person's body or mind. Isn't it wonderful that when someone asks which head coach lead his team to the most victories in major college history, it will be Joe Paterno. All this crap happened with his knowledge, and a couple generations from now it may be Joe Paterno still on top of the record book lists, and all that crap will not be known by future generations that passively look at the lists, and think what a great coach he must have been, unless they research Paterno's past. IMO, this is worse than paying players and giving gifts.

That's the way it goes Gil. You can't rewrite history just because a hero falls from grace.

Benedict Arnold was one of our greatest leaders during the Revolutionary war. All he is remembered for now is being a traitor. Paterno holds the wins record, it's a fact that can't be changed, but all people will remember him for is the Sandusky incident.

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