Haven't lost more than 4 games in 20 years. I see nothing that makes me think that trend will change any time soon.Grizalltheway wrote:SOMEBODY gets it.GoAgs72 wrote:The problem for the rest of us is that when we're bad, we're bad - when Montana is bad they're still good, maybe not great but at least good.
How many teams will the Big Sky get into the playoffs?
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Re: How many teams will the Big Sky get into the playoffs?
Absolutly correct. Even with all that has happened I bought two more season tickets to add to the four we already have. Just like stocks, when some are giving up; buy more tickets. We will be in every game and some of them will be dog fights. But this team has a ton of talent and will begin to click about four games into the season. It is going to be fun!AZGrizFan wrote:Haven't lost more than 4 games in 20 years. I see nothing that makes me think that trend will change any time soon.Grizalltheway wrote: SOMEBODY gets it.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Haven't lost more than 4 games in 20 years. I see nothing that makes me think that trend will change any time soon.Grizalltheway wrote: SOMEBODY gets it.
Dont think it will either, I see the griz losing 4 App, EWU, WSU and MSU and making the playoffs
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MSU, Cal Poly and UNDPwns wrote:Now that the Big Sky has gone all CAA on us and isn't having a round-robin conference schedule how will that affect how many teams they have with at least 7 DI wins at the end of the season? I'm thinking you will have four teams with a case to get into the playoffs...Griz, Cats, EWU, and SUU.
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Gil Dobie wrote:MSU, Cal Poly and UNDPwns wrote:Now that the Big Sky has gone all CAA on us and isn't having a round-robin conference schedule how will that affect how many teams they have with at least 7 DI wins at the end of the season? I'm thinking you will have four teams with a case to get into the playoffs...Griz, Cats, EWU, and SUU.
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I can see MSU and even Cal Poly, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think UND will make the playoffs this season? Not a knock on UND, but most media and rankings have them finishing either in the middle or towards the bottom of the conference. Maybe that's not fair considering UND hasn't played a down of football in the Big Sky yet, but I am just wondering how you think UND will finish above both Montana and EWU. I don't see it happening.Gil Dobie wrote:MSU, Cal Poly and UNDPwns wrote:Now that the Big Sky has gone all CAA on us and isn't having a round-robin conference schedule how will that affect how many teams they have with at least 7 DI wins at the end of the season? I'm thinking you will have four teams with a case to get into the playoffs...Griz, Cats, EWU, and SUU.
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7-2 vs FCS,EWU could be a 4th team form the Big SkyEWURanger wrote:I can see MSU and even Cal Poly, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think UND will make the playoffs this season? Not a knock on UND, but most media and rankings have them finishing either in the middle or towards the bottom of the conference. Maybe that's not fair considering UND hasn't played a down of football in the Big Sky yet, but I am just wondering how you think UND will finish above both Montana and EWU. I don't see it happening.
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If Montana goes 7-4, and UND is 7-2, who does the playoff committee take? UND with the win over the Griz.
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Re: How many teams will the Big Sky get into the playoffs?
Gil Dobie wrote:7-2 vs FCS,EWU could be a 4th team form the Big SkyEWURanger wrote:I can see MSU and even Cal Poly, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think UND will make the playoffs this season? Not a knock on UND, but most media and rankings have them finishing either in the middle or towards the bottom of the conference. Maybe that's not fair considering UND hasn't played a down of football in the Big Sky yet, but I am just wondering how you think UND will finish above both Montana and EWU. I don't see it happening.
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Sat, Sep 29 Cal Poly * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 06 Eastern Washington * (L)
Sat, Oct 13 Northern Arizona * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 20 Montana * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 27 Montana State * at Bozeman, Mont. (L)
Sat, Nov 03 Southern Utah * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Nov 17 Northern Colorado * at Greeley, Colo. (W)
If Montana goes 7-4, and UND is 7-2, who does the playoff committee take? UND with the win over the Griz.
Pretty optimistic with the wins.
IMO: Portland State, Sac State, Cal Poly, UNA, Montana, SUU are toss-up games. That's 6 games that could go either way.
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......and if I pick against them they are sure to win. They just have that dumb luck somehow, or just enough to win these games.Bison Fan in NW MN wrote: Pretty optimistic with the wins.
IMO: Portland State, Sac State, Cal Poly, UNA, Montana, SUU are toss-up games. That's 6 games that could go either way.
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That's a difficult schedule. Both Montana's, EWU, Portland State, Cal Poly...all of which could be playoff caliber teams. Southern Utah will be tough to beat with Sorensen at the helm, as will NAU with Bauman. Agree to disagree I guess, but 7-2 through that schedule would be a very big accomplishment for UND in their first year in the Big Sky.Gil Dobie wrote:7-2 vs FCS,EWU could be a 4th team form the Big SkyEWURanger wrote:I can see MSU and even Cal Poly, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think UND will make the playoffs this season? Not a knock on UND, but most media and rankings have them finishing either in the middle or towards the bottom of the conference. Maybe that's not fair considering UND hasn't played a down of football in the Big Sky yet, but I am just wondering how you think UND will finish above both Montana and EWU. I don't see it happening.
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Sat, Oct 20 Montana * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 27 Montana State * at Bozeman, Mont. (L)
Sat, Nov 03 Southern Utah * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Nov 17 Northern Colorado * at Greeley, Colo. (W)
If Montana goes 7-4, and UND is 7-2, who does the playoff committee take? UND with the win over the Griz.
Remember that the BSC is an extremely pass-happy conference....has UND's secondary improved dramatically since last season? If not, I could see them running into some problems.
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Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.Gil Dobie wrote:7-2 vs FCS,EWU could be a 4th team form the Big SkyEWURanger wrote:I can see MSU and even Cal Poly, but just out of curiosity, what makes you think UND will make the playoffs this season? Not a knock on UND, but most media and rankings have them finishing either in the middle or towards the bottom of the conference. Maybe that's not fair considering UND hasn't played a down of football in the Big Sky yet, but I am just wondering how you think UND will finish above both Montana and EWU. I don't see it happening.
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Sat, Sep 29 Cal Poly * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 06 Eastern Washington * (L)
Sat, Oct 13 Northern Arizona * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 20 Montana * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 27 Montana State * at Bozeman, Mont. (L)
Sat, Nov 03 Southern Utah * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Nov 17 Northern Colorado * at Greeley, Colo. (W)
If Montana goes 7-4, and UND is 7-2, who does the playoff committee take? UND with the win over the Griz.
Re: How many teams will the Big Sky get into the playoffs?
I don't understand why we can't beat SUU? We beat them last year at their place when we had an inept QB. Now we should have much better QB play (depending on injuries) and it's at the Alerus Center.Grizalltheway wrote:Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.Gil Dobie wrote:
7-2 vs FCS,EWU could be a 4th team form the Big Sky
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Sat, Oct 13 Northern Arizona * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 20 Montana * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Oct 27 Montana State * at Bozeman, Mont. (L)
Sat, Nov 03 Southern Utah * Grand Forks, N.D. (W)
Sat, Nov 17 Northern Colorado * at Greeley, Colo. (W)
If Montana goes 7-4, and UND is 7-2, who does the playoff committee take? UND with the win over the Griz.
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I agree. SUU was riding high going into their game with UND last year. They knocked off UNLV and was ranked in the polls. UND outplayed them and won a good game. Now the game is at our place where we have only lost 11 games in 11 seasons at the Alerus Center. I think 7-2 could be a reality.sioux24/7 wrote:I don't understand why we can't beat SUU? We beat them last year at their place when we had an inept QB. Now we should have much better QB play (depending on injuries) and it's at the Alerus Center.Grizalltheway wrote:
Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.
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Poly won by 4 last year, SUU lost at home and Montana may be without Johnson, very winnable games for a better Sioux team than last year.Grizalltheway wrote:
Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.
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Losing Johnson isn't make or break for Montana. It may set them back a little, but they will still win a lot of games with their defense and offensive line/running game.Gil Dobie wrote:Poly won by 4 last year, SUU lost at home and Montana may be without Johnson, very winnable games for a better Sioux team than last year.Grizalltheway wrote:
Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.
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Time will tell. Can't wait.
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Re: How many teams will the Big Sky get into the playoffs?
I'll go with three. I'd prefer four but something tells me the conference beats the hell out of each other this year. Also, how will the CAA get 8 teams in if the Big Sky takes one more of those spots??? EWU, MSU and Cal Poly are my thoroughly uneducated predictions.
NAU gave themselves absolutely no room for error by playing up two games (@ ASU, @ UNLV) and down one game (home vs. Fort Lewis). Common sense says NAU goes 1-2 in these games and that one win is the one that doesn't count towards the playoffs. That means having to win 7 of 8 conference games. That's a tough act.
NAU gave themselves absolutely no room for error by playing up two games (@ ASU, @ UNLV) and down one game (home vs. Fort Lewis). Common sense says NAU goes 1-2 in these games and that one win is the one that doesn't count towards the playoffs. That means having to win 7 of 8 conference games. That's a tough act.
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Of the three mentioned games I think UND matches up very well with UM and Cal Poly. SUU is a different story because UND has had some trouble with good pass first type teams recently. It is a tough schedule but I think UND is going to be much improved this year.Gil Dobie wrote:Poly won by 4 last year, SUU lost at home and Montana may be without Johnson, very winnable games for a better Sioux team than last year.Grizalltheway wrote:
Here's a hint: the UND Place Holders aren't going to beat UM, Caly Poly, or SUU. Problem solved.
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I think it's likely that only 3 teams from the BSC make the playoffs but it could probably any of seven or eight teams. It will be interesting to see how the season shakes out. A lot more excitement about UND football now that the transition is over.
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The coaching staff turnover may not help things out either. Coaching a game in that compact dome full of law students screaming at you, in Grand Forks can be tough. 7-4 for the Griz isn't that bad. All factors coming into the season, could be enough for the Sioux to win at home.EWURanger wrote:Losing Johnson isn't make or break for Montana. It may set them back a little, but they will still win a lot of games with their defense and offensive line/running game.Gil Dobie wrote:
Poly won by 4 last year, SUU lost at home and Montana may be without Johnson, very winnable games for a better Sioux team than last year.
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It sounds like UND's secondary has improved slightly by the sounds of it. We're still weak on one side at CB, but there is a RSFr. who almost got his shirt pulled last year who didn't practice during Spring because of injury, and he will likely end up a starter to go with Daryl Brown, who is a very strong performer. Safety could still be an issue - brought in two JUCOs who appear to be talented, but the darkhorse Javen Butler, a RSFr., who had some academic problems and seems to have ironed them out (although I could be wrong and he could end up ineligible). Coming out of HS I thought he could have been a contributor last year, so we'll see what a year away has done to him.EWURanger wrote: That's a difficult schedule. Both Montana's, EWU, Portland State, Cal Poly...all of which could be playoff caliber teams. Southern Utah will be tough to beat with Sorensen at the helm, as will NAU with Bauman. Agree to disagree I guess, but 7-2 through that schedule would be a very big accomplishment for UND in their first year in the Big Sky.
Remember that the BSC is an extremely pass-happy conference....has UND's secondary improved dramatically since last season? If not, I could see them running into some problems.
After the DBs, the most important aspect to consider is the QB play. Last year was HORRIBLE, and UND ran the ball 72% of the time. This year it seems that Braden Hanson, a transfer from North Carolina, has been developing great chemistry with the WRs already, who appear to be a strength of this team. The offense should be very balanced, and should be able to beat you through the air or on the ground. But you never know once the season starts
I do think that UND is a wild card this year - I really don't know what to expect this year, but I'm cautiously optimistic that they will be able to sneak up on some teams this year and have a successful season. I've said before that they could finish anywhere from 3-8 to 8-3. I do agree that there will likely be 3 Big Sky teams in the playoffs, but you'll have to take your pick between UM, MSU, EWU, PSU, SUU, Poly, WSU and UND to get them.
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