Honey Badger to 1-AA

[rkwittem]

[cats2506]

Did anyone use the word "convicted"?

Using your logic, up until his conviction, and heck, he probably has some appeals left that could set him free, Sandusky was/is just an innocent victim of a smear campaign.

Are you really this **** stupid? Comparing two college kids having consensual sex (according to Jordan) to a man that was caught in the act sexually abusing children...nice job! Have you read the motion to dismiss in the JJ case, didn't think so...two sides to this story, dipshit!

Yes I have read the motion to dismiss and the charging documents. Lots of holes in JJ's defense, unless they can find something new then he is in major trouble.

When is Donaldsons trial? I know he plead not guilty after he confessed.

[mlbowl]

Yes I have read the motion to dismiss and the charging documents. Lots of holes in JJ's defense, unless they can find something new then he is in major trouble.

When is Donaldsons trial? I know he plead not guilty after he confessed.

Of course you do ...as for Donaldson, I believe HE is in major trouble.

[YoUDeeMan]

Did anyone use the word "convicted"?

Using your logic, up until his conviction, and heck, he probably has some appeals left that could set him free, Sandusky was/is just an innocent victim of a smear campaign.

Are you really this fucking stupid? Comparing two college kids having consensual sex (according to Jordan) to a man that was caught in the act sexually abusing children...nice job! Have you read the motion to dismiss in the JJ case, didn't think so...two sides to this story, dipshit!

Let's see...you are saying the kids had consensual sex...isn't that the defense for all rapists? Then there is the, "She wanted it...she was flirting" defense, used of course, by Jordan. Then there is the, "We've got evidence of her plotting to take him down with a rape charge because she was...what...used, and wants to get back at the guy and retain her wholesome image.

His defense is like any other lawyer's defense...they will bend the truth to get their guy to walk.

The fact is, no one knows what happened in that room except those two, but the vast majority of the time when someone cries rape...it was a rape. Sure, you have the occasional whack job...but most rapes are rapes...and most rapes go unreported because the victim often feels she, despite saying, "no" (which should end everything right then and there, but usually doesn't), somehow led him on.

So yeah, you can go with Jordan's story...or you can go with the overwhelming odds that he continued the sex after she said no.

PS - Can't wait for your daughter to come home and tell you she was raped...and, after hearing the defense submit a motion to dismiss, you call her a dipshit. Then you get to watch the rapist getting off (in addition to having gotten off with your daughter) on a technicality.

[mlbowl]

Are you really this **** stupid? Comparing two college kids having consensual sex (according to Jordan) to a man that was caught in the act sexually abusing children...nice job! Have you read the motion to dismiss in the JJ case, didn't think so...two sides to this story, dipshit!

Let's see...you are saying the kids had consensual sex...isn't that the defense for all rapists? Then there is the, "She wanted it...she was flirting" defense, used of course, by Jordan. Then there is the, "We've got evidence of her plotting to take him down with a rape charge because she was...what...used, and wants to get back at the guy and retain her wholesome image.

His defense is like any other lawyer's defense...they will bend the truth to get their guy to walk.

The fact is, no one knows what happened in that room except those two, but the vast majority of the time when someone cries rape...it was a rape. Sure, you have the occasional whack job...but most rapes are rapes...and most rapes go unreported because the victim often feels she, despite saying, "no" (which should end everything right then and there, but usually doesn't), somehow led him on.

So yeah, you can go with Jordan's story...or you can go with the overwhelming odds that he continued the sex after she said no.

PS - Can't wait for your daughter to come home and tell you she was raped...and, after hearing the defense submit a motion to dismiss, you call her a dipshit. Then you get to watch the rapist getting off (in addition to having gotten off with your daughter) on a technicality.

You obviously know what happened, don't ya, smart guy. Jane Doe's male roommate, a mere 8 ft away, heard nothing. Then, she was so traumatized afterward, she got up and made a snack before taking JJ home. Not to mention all the texts SHE sent claiming SHE didn't think he did anything wrong. You know nothing about this mess, just like me.


PS - Can't wait for your son to come home and tell you he was accused of rape...and, after only listening to the prosecution's side, you call him a dipshit. Then you get to watch him serve time for a crime he didn't commit

[cats2506]

JJ's defense doesn't deny that she said "NO" and that he continued, they haven't answered for the torn leggings, physical marks on her chest or tenderness of her head. Basically the defense hasn't denied any of her story on the points of rape.

[mlbowl]

JJ's defense doesn't deny that she said "NO" and that he continued, they haven't answered for the torn leggings, physical marks on her chest or tenderness of her head. Basically the defense hasn't denied any of her story on the points of rape.

Yes, they did! What mtd did you read?

http://missoulian.com/motion-to-dismiss ... f887a.html

[cats2506]

JJ's defense doesn't deny that she said "NO" and that he continued, they haven't answered for the torn leggings, physical marks on her chest or tenderness of her head. Basically the defense hasn't denied any of her story on the points of rape.

Yes, they did! What mtd did you read?

http://missoulian.com/motion-to-dismiss ... f887a.html

I read the same one, where did they deny that she said "NO"

[mlbowl]

Yes, they did! What mtd did you read?

http://missoulian.com/motion-to-dismiss ... f887a.html

I read the same one, where did they deny that she said "NO"

UHHH...the part where she asks him if he has a condom and jj says no...Jane Doe says that's ok and they continue to have sex. There are about three paragraphs discounting her version of events. Nowhere in the defense version does she say "NO"

[cats2506]

I read the same one, where did they deny that she said "NO"

UHHH...the part where she asks him if he has a condom and jj says no...Jane Doe says that's ok and they continue to have sex. There are about three paragraphs discounting her version of events. Nowhere in the defense version does she say "NO"

Lot of interpretation there, but I got it that they didnt deny that she said "No" multiple times

[Grizalltheway]

Yes, they did! What mtd did you read?

http://missoulian.com/motion-to-dismiss ... f887a.html

I read the same one, where did they deny that she said "NO"

Supposedly said no ("playfully argued with him"), then willingly helped him get her pants off.

[cats2506]

I read the same one, where did they deny that she said "NO"

Supposedly said no ("playfully argued with him"), then willingly helped him get her pants off.

Oh yeah, right after he said he only had 2 beers and doesnt drive after drinking

if you believe that too I have some Arizona beachfront property to to sell

[Grizalltheway]

Supposedly said no ("playfully argued with him"), then willingly helped him get her pants off.

Oh yeah, right after he said he only had 2 beers and doesnt drive after drinking

if you believe that too I have some Arizona beachfront property to to sell

You're take it as the gospel truth if an MSU player said it.

[cats2506]

Oh yeah, right after he said he only had 2 beers and doesnt drive after drinking

if you believe that too I have some Arizona beachfront property to to sell

You're take it as the gospel truth if an MSU player said it.

still trying to figure out what that has to do with the defenses credibility.

I am done with this, with your bias you guys obviously will not look at it objectively.

[mlbowl]

I am done with this, with your bias you guys obviously will not look at it objectively.

Why hello, pot

[Grizalltheway]

You're take it as the gospel truth if an MSU player said it.

still trying to figure out what that has to do with the defenses credibility.

I am done with this, with your bias you guys obviously will not look at it objectively.

Being objective about it would entail letting it play out in a court of law, innocent until proven guilty, all that nonsense. He's already convicted in your oxygen-starved mind.

[clenz]

and he's clearly innocent in yours. I don't know what the facts are yet but regardless what happens clearly you will always believe he is innocent.... Much like citgrad in his defense of penn state

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[mlbowl]

and he's clearly innocent in yours. I don't know what the facts are yet but regardless what happens clearly you will always believe he is innocent.... Much like citgrad in his defense of penn state

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Nope...but there are two sides to this mess. Unfortunately, everyone but Griz fans (and even some Griz fans) have already convicted him.

[Grizalltheway]

and he's clearly innocent in yours. I don't know what the facts are yet but regardless what happens clearly you will always believe he is innocent.... Much like citgrad in his defense of penn state

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He is still technically innocent. Not in my mind, in reality. If a jury thinks he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, great. See ya, have fun in prison, scumbag. But in my professional, certified legal opinion, I don't think a jury will unanimously find him guilty. I could be wrong, it sure as shit wouldn't be the first time.

[EWURanger]

What about those of us that don't care? I thought this thread was about where what's-his-face is going to end up.


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[SDHornet]

What about those of us that don't care? I thought this thread was about where what's-his-face is going to end up.


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Wrong.

[henfan]

Why am I reminded of Cecil "The Little Diesel Engine That Smoked" Collins?

[tampajag]

Why am I reminded of Cecil "The Little Diesel Engine That Smoked" Collins?

Totally different Honey Badger likes to smoke Spice, The Diesel liked to watch women sleep.

[tampajag]

LSU denied Southern's request to talk to Mathieu

[mlbowl]

LSU denied Southern's request to talk to Mathieu

Why? That seems odd to me.