WhoaJacks78 wrote:Hey gang, brand new poster here but I have follow the boards on a daily basis and find them great source of info and amusement. I honestly only joined to ask a question that I can't seem to find the answer to.
What happens if the winner of MSU/EWU and the winner of NAU/Cal Poly finish the BSC season undefeated? Who gets the BSC's auto bid? I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but if the winners of those two games win out, the BSC would have two 8-0 teams in conference play. The EWU/Poly game is non-conference so even though it's a long shot, it's still a possibility.
Anybody know?
They have a tiebreaker system in place.
First is head to head conference.
Then head to head non-conference.
If the tying teams don't play, then record against common conference opponents.
If still tied, then record against common non-conference opponents.
If still tied, I think they go by Sargarin or some other power index.
The Cal Poly loss and our defense playing crappy all year has pretty much closed the book on us getting to the playoffs. 5 out of 5 to reach the playoffs (or at least the 7 DI win mark).
WhoaJacks78 wrote:Hey gang, brand new poster here but I have follow the boards on a daily basis and find them great source of info and amusement. I honestly only joined to ask a question that I can't seem to find the answer to.
What happens if the winner of MSU/EWU and the winner of NAU/Cal Poly finish the BSC season undefeated? Who gets the BSC's auto bid? I know I'm getting way ahead of myself but if the winners of those two games win out, the BSC would have two 8-0 teams in conference play. The EWU/Poly game is non-conference so even though it's a long shot, it's still a possibility.
Anybody know?
Doesn't matter, they're both credited for winning the conference, and the committee will seed by their resume.
Interesting,
I see a 7-1 EWU losing the BSC to an 8-0 CP, with an OOC win over CP. I would hope EWU earns a higher seed than CP. They should both make the playoffs with hopefully the Cats & NAU. I don't think the Griz or Sac can win out the 2nd ½ of the season, and either must to get an entry.
Good luck this weekend. Hopefully the better team loses and my Cats win.
EWURanger wrote:Oct 13 @MTST
Oct 20 CSUS
Oct 27 @SUU
Nov 3 CP
Nov 10 UCD
Nov 17 @PRST
Let the gauntlet begin. We need to win at least 3 of these games, none are gimees. Really seems like we got the short end of the stick with the conference schedule this season. No ISU or UNC.
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Please. Sac, SUU & PSU are walkovers. Afer this weekend you will be able to coast into the playoffs.
Whoops.
I will say that UM can win out and buy their way into the 1st round. Playoffs are still theoretically possible.
EWURanger wrote:
Oct 20 CSUS
Oct 27 @SUU
Nov 3 CP
Nov 10 UCD
Nov 17 @PRST
Let the gauntlet begin. We need to win at least 3 of these games, none are gimees. Really seems like we got the short end of the stick with the conference schedule this season. No ISU or UNC.
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If all goes according to Hoyle, EWU closes with two wins. I'm fairly certain the Eags win at SUU as well. The only question marks for EWU, for me, are home games with Sac and CP. Having home field advantage will be HUGE for the Eagles. I'm sure EWU wins AT LEAST one of these as well, though I wouldn't go to Lost Wages to place a bet on which of those they lose.
That said, I think EWU looks like a good bet to win out. I hope Sac beats the Eags next week, but we'll see.
SuperHornet's Athletics Hall of Fame includes Jacksonville State kicker Ashley Martin, the first girl to score in a Division I football game. She kicked 3 PATs in a 2001 game for J-State.
EWURanger wrote:
Oct 20 CSUS
Oct 27 @SUU
Nov 3 CP
Nov 10 UCD
Nov 17 @PRST
Let the gauntlet begin. We need to win at least 3 of these games, none are gimees. Really seems like we got the short end of the stick with the conference schedule this season. No ISU or UNC.
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If all goes according to Hoyle, EWU closes with two wins. I'm fairly certain the Eags win at SUU as well. The only question marks for EWU, for me, are home games with Sac and CP. Having home field advantage will be HUGE for the Eagles. I'm sure EWU wins AT LEAST one of these as well, though I wouldn't go to Lost Wages to place a bet on which of those they lose.
That said, I think EWU looks like a good bet to win out. I hope Sac beats the Eags next week, but we'll see.
We've played them close the past 2 years. We would have beaten them last year if we had a kicker. I think our defense will be ok if we can keep getting pressure like we have been the past few weeks. Offense keeps turning the ball over though. It should be a good game nonetheless.
Eastern looks terribly vulnerable. One week the defense gets gashed, the next week the offense can't do a damn thing. EWU has been incredibly fourtunate that both of these things haven't happened in the same week. You could easily look at Eastern and say that we're only 3 plays away from being a 2-win team.
I would love to see Eastern win out, and I think Eastern has more talent than any team left on the schedule. But riding your luck will only take you so far. If Eastern doesn't get to executing a little better, eventually someone will step up and put another L on the resume.
SuperHornet's Athletics Hall of Fame includes Jacksonville State kicker Ashley Martin, the first girl to score in a Division I football game. She kicked 3 PATs in a 2001 game for J-State.
Here is my take on this in regards to the current standings and remaining schedules:
Best Shot:
-Eastern Washingon
-Montana State
-Cal Poly
-Sac State
-NAU
Long Shot:
-Montana
-Suu
I put my Thunderbirds on the list because if we do win out (which will be very very very hard since it is a really f***ing long shot) they would end the season 7-4 and with wins over Montana, NAU and EWU which may be enough to convince the commitee to let them in, but as I said it is a long shot.
Montana is in the same boat, needing to win out in order to achieve a 7-4 record and thanks to their programs tradition and history I could see them squeaking into the playoffs. They have a favorable schedule with Weber State and Idaho State on the schedule (they way they are playing these are games they should win bu not gimmies), but have Montana State and a North Dakota team to get by first.
EWU, Sac and MSU all have 5 D1 wins currently and Cal Poly has 6 so they are the front runners in the playoff run with NAU close behind. The Hornets have the toughest remaining schedule with EWU, Cal Poly, Montana State and a UC-Davis team that has been a surprise the past few weeks.
NAU is beind the others as they only have 4 D1 wins currently but have two very tough games coming up against SUU and Cal Poly. At this point I am convinced that Cal Poly, EWU and MSU will get in, the 4th team is still up in the air at this point.
SUUTbird wrote:Here is my take on this in regards to the current standings and remaining schedules:
Best Shot:
-Eastern Washingon
-Montana State
-Cal Poly
-Sac State
-NAU
Long Shot:
-Montana
-Suu
I put my Thunderbirds on the list because if we do win out (which will be very very very hard since it is a really f***ing long shot) they would end the season 7-4 and with wins over Montana, NAU and EWU which may be enough to convince the commitee to let them in, but as I said it is a long shot.
Montana is in the same boat, needing to win out in order to achieve a 7-4 record and thanks to their programs tradition and history I could see them squeaking into the playoffs. They have a favorable schedule with Weber State and Idaho State on the schedule (they way they are playing these are games they should win bu not gimmies), but have Montana State and a North Dakota team to get by first.
EWU, Sac and MSU all have 5 D1 wins currently and Cal Poly has 6 so they are the front runners in the playoff run with NAU close behind. The Hornets have the toughest remaining schedule with EWU, Cal Poly, Montana State and a UC-Davis team that has been a surprise the past few weeks.
NAU is beind the others as they only have 4 D1 wins currently but have two very tough games coming up against SUU and Cal Poly. At this point I am convinced that Cal Poly, EWU and MSU will get in, the 4th team is still up in the air at this point.
Good post, but I think NAU will get in somewhat easily this year since they don't play MSU or EWU. NAU has a good defense, and a potent rushing offense, along with a QB who does a good job of managing the game. I think this will finally be the year that Souers avoids the second half slump... he's already gotten the Hauck/UM monkeys off his back.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Good post, but I think NAU will get in somewhat easily this year since they don't play MSU or EWU. NAU has a good defense, and a potent rushing offense, along with a QB who does a good job of managing the game. I think this will finally be the year that Souers avoids the second half slump... he's already gotten the Hauck/UM monkeys off his back.
I agree, I only hesitate because NAU is notorious for letting up the 2nd half of the season, the fact that Cal Poly is looking just as good and the fact that the last 4 games between my T-Birds and Lumberjacks have been decided by a combined 14pts. Not doubting the Jacks chances but just have to see how it plays out for them
Those of you who want to give a W to EWU in their last game, keep in mind that the Eagles have had problems with Portland State in the post-Walsh years, more than most other teams in the conference (Glanville 2-1, Burton 1-1). Also we beat them last year in Cheney and this year they have to come to Portland. Don't think Cal Poly is the only difficult game left for the Eagles.
JALMOND wrote:Those of you who want to give a W to EWU in their last game, keep in mind that the Eagles have had problems with Portland State in the post-Walsh years, more than most other teams in the conference (Glanville 2-1, Burton 1-1). Also we beat them last year in Cheney and this year they have to come to Portland. Don't think Cal Poly is the only difficult game left for the Eagles.
Don't tell that to AZ. Apparently PSU are walkovers, along with SUU.
JALMOND wrote:Those of you who want to give a W to EWU in their last game, keep in mind that the Eagles have had problems with Portland State in the post-Walsh years, more than most other teams in the conference (Glanville 2-1, Burton 1-1). Also we beat them last year in Cheney and this year they have to come to Portland. Don't think Cal Poly is the only difficult game left for the Eagles.
I don't think that PSU will be any sort of walk-over game for EWU; with the Vikings rushing attack I think it will be a difficult game to win. However, recognize that the team the Vikings played last season looks nothing like the current version of the Eagles. PSU got the benefit of playing a team that was completely decimated by injuries (4/5 starting offensive lineman, and several other key players that included 3 All-Americans). I mean, EWU didn't even have enough healthy players to fill out the travel squad against Sac State and Cal Poly.
Also, I think this year's PSU team is not as talented as last year's, and that will be the difference.
JALMOND wrote:Those of you who want to give a W to EWU in their last game, keep in mind that the Eagles have had problems with Portland State in the post-Walsh years, more than most other teams in the conference (Glanville 2-1, Burton 1-1). Also we beat them last year in Cheney and this year they have to come to Portland. Don't think Cal Poly is the only difficult game left for the Eagles.
No game in the BSC is a guaranteed win (except maybe UNC or ISU ), however comparing last year's EWU and PSU teams to this year's is apples and oranges. Our D couldn't stop anyone, especially not the run, nor could we run on anyone, and we were very young/thin everywhere because of injuries. PSU has a young QB/RB, and is much weaker in the secondary than they were last year, while EWU is much better defensively this year vs. last.
PSU and Poly worry me the most of all the teams left on the schedule because of their style of offense. But after two games with Jordan Tonani starting at safety I'm feeling a little better about things.
