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SloStang wrote: How many wins over teams with a winning record does MSU have? Honest question.
I poke um posters in the eye, you poke msu posters in the eye. I like where this is going. ;)
Careful, I hear IQ25.06 has a thing for being poked. :coffee:
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dal4018 wrote:CP Alum your alma-mater has a guy named Josh Swaney at the WR position 6-5 225 would be nice to get him a few deep balls.Also they have other WRs at 6-3 in the 180-190 pound range they could use a workout as well.

Cal Poly has a great QB in Andre Broudous and several very good WR's they are threats to catch the ball on any play. Possibly more important, is that they block their a$$es off down field which is one of the reasons that you are speaking so highly of Deonte Williams and the rushing game.

Cal Poly runs a unique form of the Triple Option/Spread Option so it is unlikely that you will see huge numbers from any one of these guys but they can... and do burn defenses. It's a lot of no huddle and a lot of ball control. As soon as a defense realizes they need to sell out to stop the run one of the WR will burn them for 30+ on one play. It happens almost every week.

Good article here if you are interested.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/10/24 ... fense.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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dal4018 wrote:CP Alum your alma-mater has a guy named Josh Swaney at the WR position 6-5 225 would be nice to get him a few deep balls.Also they have other WRs at 6-3 in the 180-190 pound range they could use a workout as well.

Cal Poly has a great QB in Andre Broudous and several very good WR's they are threats to catch the ball on any play. Possibly more important, is that they block their a$$es off down field which is one of the reasons that you are speaking so highly of Deonte Williams and the rushing game.

Cal Poly runs a unique form of the Triple Option/Spread Option so it is unlikely that you will see huge numbers from any one of these guys but they can... and do burn defenses. It's a lot of no huddle and a lot of ball control. As soon as a defense realizes they need to sell out to stop the run one of the WR will burn them for 30+ on one play. It happens almost every week.

Good article here if you are interested.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/10/24 ... fense.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nice write up. I'm officially on the Cal Poly bandwagon for the playoffs. :nod: :thumb:
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Grizalltheway wrote: Nice write up. I'm officially on the Cal Poly bandwagon for the playoffs. :nod: :thumb:
Jumping on a bandwagon during the playoffs? Only lame people do that. ;)
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Grizalltheway wrote:
CPAlum wrote:

Cal Poly has a great QB in Andre Broudous and several very good WR's they are threats to catch the ball on any play. Possibly more important, is that they block their a$$es off down field which is one of the reasons that you are speaking so highly of Deonte Williams and the rushing game.

Cal Poly runs a unique form of the Triple Option/Spread Option so it is unlikely that you will see huge numbers from any one of these guys but they can... and do burn defenses. It's a lot of no huddle and a lot of ball control. As soon as a defense realizes they need to sell out to stop the run one of the WR will burn them for 30+ on one play. It happens almost every week.

Good article here if you are interested.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/10/24 ... fense.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nice write up. I'm officially on the Cal Poly bandwagon for the playoffs. :nod: :thumb:
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Nice write up. I'm officially on the Cal Poly bandwagon for the playoffs. :nod: :thumb:
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Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
I have a green hat you can borrow when YOUR team comes to Cheney. :ohno:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
CP will only be playing in Cheney once this year (well, possibly twice). EWU will be playing in Cheney at least 3 more times this year, likely 4. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
I have a green hat you can borrow when YOUR team comes to Cheney. :ohno:
GATW is the epitome of this year's Griz team... just can't do enough to get out of his own way and choose the smart play. Sad really. :ohno:
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
CP will only be playing in Cheney once this year (well, possibly twice). EWU will be playing in Cheney at least 3 more times this year, likely 4. :coffee:
So what? You guys have won a national title, Poly hasn't. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Hey, they didn't beat us this year, alright? Plus, I had a smoking hot TA in college who went there for undergrad. :nod: :oops:
I have a green hat you can borrow when YOUR team comes to Cheney. :ohno:
I'll be a neutral observer for that one. Just hope to see a great game. :thumb:
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dal4018 wrote:CP Alum your alma-mater has a guy named Josh Swaney at the WR position 6-5 225 would be nice to get him a few deep balls.Also they have other WRs at 6-3 in the 180-190 pound range they could use a workout as well.

Cal Poly has a great QB in Andre Broudous and several very good WR's they are threats to catch the ball on any play. Possibly more important, is that they block their a$$es off down field which is one of the reasons that you are speaking so highly of Deonte Williams and the rushing game.

Cal Poly runs a unique form of the Triple Option/Spread Option so it is unlikely that you will see huge numbers from any one of these guys but they can... and do burn defenses. It's a lot of no huddle and a lot of ball control. As soon as a defense realizes they need to sell out to stop the run one of the WR will burn them for 30+ on one play. It happens almost every week.

Good article here if you are interested.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/10/24 ... fense.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey thanks great article so they stole their offensive identity from the military.Hope this scheme works come playoff time as you know nothing will be easy.When they run into a great run stopping unit the QBs will be forced to make big plays.
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CP Alum would be nice if Harvard had a automatic bid they have the top ranked run stopping unit in 1-AA giving up a SUPER STINGY 57.8 yds ppg!!!Would like to see your guys face them?!?!?
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dal4018 wrote:
CPAlum wrote:

Cal Poly has a great QB in Andre Broudous and several very good WR's they are threats to catch the ball on any play. Possibly more important, is that they block their a$$es off down field which is one of the reasons that you are speaking so highly of Deonte Williams and the rushing game.

Cal Poly runs a unique form of the Triple Option/Spread Option so it is unlikely that you will see huge numbers from any one of these guys but they can... and do burn defenses. It's a lot of no huddle and a lot of ball control. As soon as a defense realizes they need to sell out to stop the run one of the WR will burn them for 30+ on one play. It happens almost every week.

Good article here if you are interested.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/10/24 ... fense.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey thanks great article so they stole their offensive identity from the military.Hope this scheme works come playoff time as you know nothing will be easy.When they run into a great run stopping unit the QBs will be forced to make big plays.

No they didn't....I think that was a major point in the article. Keep in mind that Cal Poly was running a Triple Option before Walsh showed up....Cal Poly's former coach Rich Ellerson, actually modeled the current offense at Army after the one that he ran at Cal Poly in the early/late 00s.....so in fact Army stole Cal Poly's offense....Army is not having much success with it.

What Cook/Walsh are running at Cal Poly currently is similar to the TO that is in place at some of the service academies (Ga Tech and GSU as well) but also has a lot in common with what is being run at Oregon. They've catered the offense to the talent on the team and so far its worked pretty well
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dal4018 wrote:CP Alum would be nice if Harvard had a automatic bid they have the top ranked run stopping unit in 1-AA giving up a SUPER STINGY 57.8 yds ppg!!!Would like to see your guys face them?!?!?
Sorry but that is hilarious :rofl:

If Cal Poly played Harvard they'd eat them for lunch....no competition whatsoever :coffee:
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Okay CP Alum thought they took Army's offense and made it better seeing as how they have superior talent.Just kidding about facing Harvard lol
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You're right about our schedule not being impressive. There have been lots of people saying we're over-rated because of that. On top of that, our margins of victory have not been big. We have made lots of mistakes in almost all of our games. I'm hoping the loss to EWU and bye week have those cleared up.

I think the main difference is that the 'Cats were in the quarterfinals last year, so started high in the polls. Since our only loss was a close one to the team currently ranked #1 we've managed to stay high. It's much harder to work your way up the rankings with a lighter schedule and barely winning than to stay near the top, especially since a number of other top 10 teams lost the same week as us.

I think you've also gotten labelled with a weak schedule because at the beginning of the year most people weren't expecting UM to do as bad as they have or NAU to do as well as they have, along with some other teams performing better (or worse) than expected. Looks like some people haven't gone back and looked at how the difficulty of Big Sky schedules is different than expected at the beginning of the year.

Although we don't play Idaho State or Weber this year, so we've got that going for us in the schedule strength. ;)
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catbooster wrote:You're right about our schedule not being impressive. There have been lots of people saying we're over-rated because of that. On top of that, our margins of victory have not been big. We have made lots of mistakes in almost all of our games. I'm hoping the loss to EWU and bye week have those cleared up.

I think the main difference is that the 'Cats were in the quarterfinals last year, so started high in the polls. Since our only loss was a close one to the team currently ranked #1 we've managed to stay high. It's much harder to work your way up the rankings with a lighter schedule and barely winning than to stay near the top, especially since a number of other top 10 teams lost the same week as us.

I think you've also gotten labelled with a weak schedule because at the beginning of the year most people weren't expecting UM to do as bad as they have or NAU to do as well as they have, along with some other teams performing better (or worse) than expected. Looks like some people haven't gone back and looked at how the difficulty of Big Sky schedules is different than expected at the beginning of the year.

Although we don't play Idaho State or Weber this year, so we've got that going for us in the schedule strength. ;)
Spot on. I really do believe MSU is a top FSC team and I don't think there are many teams that want to travel to Bozeman to face the Bobcats in the playoffs. My point all along was that the only reason Cal Poly is not ranked in the top ten is that they did not start the year as a ranked team and not the strength of their schedule. I was using MSU's strength of schedule to make that point, not to say that the Bobcats did not deserve their ranking.

That said, I really think Cal Poly will be in a dog fight today with a very good Hornet team. I also think the Hornets will play with a lot of emotion as they will be playing for their fallen teammate. This is a game that could go either way and one that will have a lot of impact on the Big Sky race.
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catbooster wrote:You're right about our schedule not being impressive. There have been lots of people saying we're over-rated because of that. On top of that, our margins of victory have not been big. We have made lots of mistakes in almost all of our games. I'm hoping the loss to EWU and bye week have those cleared up.

I think the main difference is that the 'Cats were in the quarterfinals last year, so started high in the polls. Since our only loss was a close one to the team currently ranked #1 we've managed to stay high. It's much harder to work your way up the rankings with a lighter schedule and barely winning than to stay near the top, especially since a number of other top 10 teams lost the same week as us.

I think you've also gotten labelled with a weak schedule because at the beginning of the year most people weren't expecting UM to do as bad as they have or NAU to do as well as they have, along with some other teams performing better (or worse) than expected. Looks like some people haven't gone back and looked at how the difficulty of Big Sky schedules is different than expected at the beginning of the year.

Although we don't play Idaho State or Weber this year, so we've got that going for us in the schedule strength. ;)
Spot on. I really do believe MSU is a top FSC team and I don't think there are many teams that want to travel to Bozeman to face the Bobcats in the playoffs. My point all along was that the only reason Cal Poly is not ranked in the top ten is that they did not start the year as a ranked team and not the strength of their schedule. I was using MSU's strength of schedule to make that point, not to say that the Bobcats did not deserve their ranking.

That said, I really think Cal Poly will be in a dog fight today with a very good Hornet team. I also think the Hornets will play with a lot of emotion as they will be playing for their fallen teammate. This is a game that could go either way and one that will have a lot of impact on the Big Sky race.
Slo stang I still say your guys should take this game easily Sacramento St has a weak run defense giving up 116.00 yds ppg and your guys have the no.3 rush attack in 1-AA averaging 314.00 and Deonte Williams is a Payton award nominee I think he will pad his stats as stated before.This should be a good time that your teams passing attack needs to show what it's capable of.I think your alma- mater has enough to get to the big game!!!!!Yes the passing of DE Broomfield will give Sac St plenty of motivation to play well today.
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dal4018 wrote:
SloStang wrote: Spot on. I really do believe MSU is a top FSC team and I don't think there are many teams that want to travel to Bozeman to face the Bobcats in the playoffs. My point all along was that the only reason Cal Poly is not ranked in the top ten is that they did not start the year as a ranked team and not the strength of their schedule. I was using MSU's strength of schedule to make that point, not to say that the Bobcats did not deserve their ranking.

That said, I really think Cal Poly will be in a dog fight today with a very good Hornet team. I also think the Hornets will play with a lot of emotion as they will be playing for their fallen teammate. This is a game that could go either way and one that will have a lot of impact on the Big Sky race.
Slo stang I still say your guys should take this game easily Sacramento St has a weak run defense giving up 116.00 yds ppg and your guys have the no.3 rush attack in 1-AA averaging 314.00 and Deonte Williams is a Payton award nominee I think he will pad his stats as stated before.This should be a good time that your teams passing attack needs to show what it's capable of.I think your alma- mater has enough to get to the big game!!!!!Yes the passing of DE Broomfield will give Sac St plenty of motivation to play well today.
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dal4018 wrote:Slo stang I still say your guys should take this game easily Sacramento St has a weak run defense giving up 116.00 yds ppg and your guys have the no.3 rush attack in 1-AA averaging 314.00 and Deonte Williams is a Payton award nominee I think he will pad his stats as stated before.This should be a good time that your teams passing attack needs to show what it's capable of.I think your alma- mater has enough to get to the big game!!!!!Yes the passing of DE Broomfield will give Sac St plenty of motivation to play well today.
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Then the NCAA are dunces as well that is where I saw those stats!!!!! Show me new stats that prove otherwise!!!!
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I could be wrong, dal, but it seems to me that SE's objection to your statement isn't so much in the stat but in your unwarranted judgment call based on it. A defense that gives up 116 ypg rushing is generally considered somewhere in the range of average to pretty good, NOT weak. And having already faced our defense (and almost coming out on the wrong end, BTW), he knows that our defense is NOT exactly "weak." IF CP runs wild on us, it will be more due to the Mustangs having superior personnel, NOT due to the Hornets fielding a "weak" defense.
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SuperHornet wrote:I could be wrong, dal, but it seems to me that SE's objection to your statement isn't so much in the stat but in your unwarranted judgment call based on it. A defense that gives up 116 ypg rushing is generally considered somewhere in the range of average to pretty good, NOT weak. And having already faced our defense (and almost coming out on the wrong end, BTW), he knows that our defense is NOT exactly "weak." IF CP runs wild on us, it will be more due to the Mustangs having superior personnel, NOT due to the Hornets fielding a "weak" defense.
Okay Hornet my apologies just that I saw others that were much more stingier.What scheme will you use to slow down Williams????
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CP leads 10-7 in the first. Are CP's uniforms gold, or is that just the yellowish hue on the webcast?
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Venus: Sac is monochrome green, and CP is monochrome gold. I don't like the effect.

I'm not a fan of Walsh's decision to go for it on 4th and 2 at the Hornet 10. A blown 4th down attempt for the first time all year, and it was a dumb decision to boot. :ohno:
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