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D1B wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
We couldn't get that lucky.

I wonder if he will offset the carbon he will spew while flying to all the book signings, fellatio ceremonies, etc?

Oh wait, he will, he'll just write a check to the company he owns that sells carbon offsets. :roll:
HI5, did it ever occur to you that until someone makes money on something, nothing will happen? I hope the people who contribute to solutions make zillions.
I have no problem with people making money it's the American way. :thumb: (although the whole carbon credit/green tag thing is a huge scam so I do have a problem with that)

My main issue with Algore is that he is a hypocrite. He tells everybody the world is going to end if we don't change our ways yet he doesn't follow his own preachings.
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This outrage is a threat to decency, humanity, and the American way.
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Wedgebuster wrote:Algore is a threat to decency, humanity, and the American way.
accuracy

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HI54UNI wrote:
D1B wrote:
HI5, did it ever occur to you that until someone makes money on something, nothing will happen? I hope the people who contribute to solutions make zillions.
I have no problem with people making money it's the American way. :thumb: (although the whole carbon credit/green tag thing is a huge scam so I do have a problem with that)

My main issue with Algore is that he is a hypocrite. He tells everybody the world is going to end if we don't change our ways yet he doesn't follow his own preachings.
Are you talking bout having a big house or car? How is he not following his preaching? Not saying you are wrong here.

The carbon credits things does look a little iffy. It's a start though. A bridge if you will.
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D1B wrote:
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I have no problem with people making money it's the American way. :thumb: (although the whole carbon credit/green tag thing is a huge scam so I do have a problem with that)

My main issue with Algore is that he is a hypocrite. He tells everybody the world is going to end if we don't change our ways yet he doesn't follow his own preachings.
Are you talking bout having a big house or car? How is he not following his preaching? Not saying you are wrong here.

The carbon credits things does look a little iffy. It's a start though. A bridge if you will.


His house is one of my beefs. He lives in a 10,000 square foot house with a guest house. He and Tipper work out of the house so they may need more space but 10,000 sq. feet? And why wouldn't he build a new, energy efficient home like this http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp instead of one that uses 12 times more energy than the average American home? Most utilities offer a "green" program of some kind where you pay extra to claim that you're getting renewable energy. Gore wasn't even doing this for his house until somebody from the media busted him on it. Now he does.

I don't care about his car. I think he has a hybrid of some kind. But his other travel doesn't match his talk. He's gotten better because of media scrutiny but how many flights were made on private jets promoting his movie or books?

As others have said on this thread we need to be responsible and treat our environment well. But we need to do it in an intelligent manner not based on hysteria or fear.
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HI54UNI wrote:
As others have said on this thread we need to be responsible and treat our environment well. But we need to do it in an intelligent manner not based on hysteria or fear.
Fair enough H5.

What would be an intelligent way to present this?

Do you believe a distracted populace such as america is capable of a serious response without the employ of hysteria or fear or similar tactics?
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D1B wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
As others have said on this thread we need to be responsible and treat our environment well. But we need to do it in an intelligent manner not based on hysteria or fear.
Fair enough H5.

What would be an intelligent way to present this?

Do you believe a distracted populace such as america is capable of a serious response without the employ of hysteria or fear or similar tactics?
No, but the increase in oil seemed to do the trick rather nicely. Once people realized that our energy consumption would cost them more, it was the perfect opportunity to implement alternative, greener energy. No need to use faulty stats to make a point, that would eventually be figured out, and ruin the entire point that was trying to be made in the first point.
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D1B wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
I have no problem with people making money it's the American way. :thumb: (although the whole carbon credit/green tag thing is a huge scam so I do have a problem with that)

My main issue with Algore is that he is a hypocrite. He tells everybody the world is going to end if we don't change our ways yet he doesn't follow his own preachings.
Are you talking bout having a big house or car? How is he not following his preaching? Not saying you are wrong here.

The carbon credits things does look a little iffy. It's a start though. A bridge if you will.
The carbon credit green tag thing is a big scam. The money is being made by the brokers/handlers not the guy that took the risk of building the wind or solar facility. The idea was that the sale of the green tags would help offset some of the cost of building the facilities. However the market for the green tags is so weak and the dollars so small that nobody banks on that money to build the facility. What happens is the broker that buys them and re-sells them is the one making the money. Some brokers like Native Energy do re-invest in renewable projects. Most just pocket the money and laugh all the way to the bank.
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D1B wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
As others have said on this thread we need to be responsible and treat our environment well. But we need to do it in an intelligent manner not based on hysteria or fear.
Fair enough H5.

What would be an intelligent way to present this?

Do you believe a distracted populace such as america is capable of a serious response without the employ of hysteria or fear or similar tactics?
It is a tough one but I think it can be done if you believe we have enough time. If the world is going to end in 20 years without massive changes we probably can't do it. If we have time and start educating people, especially kids, I think we can get there gradually and successfully.
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HI54UNI wrote:
D1B wrote:
Fair enough H5.

What would be an intelligent way to present this?

Do you believe a distracted populace such as america is capable of a serious response without the employ of hysteria or fear or similar tactics?
It is a tough one but I think it can be done if you believe we have enough time. If the world is going to end in 20 years without massive changes we probably can't do it. If we have time and start educating people, especially kids, I think we can get there gradually and successfully.
On a broader environmental note (not just energy issues) I also think there needs to be an outreach to other groups that are "green" but not what many think of as being green. If you say think of an environmental group you probably think of the Sierra Club or something similar. What about Ducks Unlimited or Pheasants Forever? They work on restoring wetlands and prairies that help clean our water and probably have a lot of conservative members that would ignore anything that comes out of Algore's mouth. If we can get them to educating their members with a consistent message you are reaching people that you might not otherwise reach.
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clenz wrote:
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I agree. We are one of the most efficient forms of parasite there is on this planet, and we do need to start trying to clean the earth. I mean, shit, whats the worst that happens, its clean? I have issues with striking fear into people as if a forcast for climate in the future about 30-40 years is accurate, when we don't know if a snow storm is going to hit 3 days prior.
I'm actually doing a research paper/presentation for a class about Global Warming. Well it was supposed to be about global warming, I explained to my teacher that I preferred not to do "global warming" as it has been beaten to death and I believe it is more natural cycle than man made. I told her I would rather take it the route of living more sustainably, and giving the class something they can actually use in life instead of "facts" backed by politically agendad douches on both sides of the argument.

She loved the idea.
I'd like to read that when you finish.
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HI54UNI wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:Will he just die.
We couldn't get that lucky.

I wonder if he will offset the carbon he will spew while flying to all the book signings, fellatio ceremonies, etc?

Oh wait, he will, he'll just write a check to the company he owns that sells carbon offsets. :roll:
Al must need the money to offset what he'll lose if "Cap'n Trade" becomes law. :shock:
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travelinman67 wrote:...and some really funny stuff analogizing the "Gore Method" to a Pascal Wager...
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IMO, your quoting the “Peoples Cube Global Warming Wager” asks two essential questions:
1) Is the earth’s climate changing?
2) Should the U.S. do anything about the impact of mankind on climate and the environment?

Looking at the opposite answers to each you end up with the following extreme situations:
A) Yes & No – if the climate change is drastic enough means the end of civilization as we know it.
B) No & Yes – we spend a lot of time, effort & dollars to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

Granted these two situations are the extreme but given a choice I would prefer option B to option A (and I'm a capitalist).


Another important question is - Why should responding to global warming or more accurately, mankind's impact on the environment mean the end of capitalism?

Done properly, a response could spur capitalism and innovation. Rather than giving tax breaks to the Big 3 automakers to produce hybrids and other half-a$$ed measures to reduce auto emissions why not give tax breaks to companies that put time & $ into R&D trying to come up with an eco-friendly replacement for the internal combustion engine? The Danes are producing wind power technology and selling it around the world, if Americans put their ability to think outside of the box and solve problems we should be able to come up with alternative energy solutions that are better on a revolutionary not evolutionary scale and sell those solutions around the world for a profit. Shifting toward sustainability isn’t just a threat to the stodgy old companies that don’t want to change it’s an opportunity for those that are flexible and willing to embrace change. Americans are some of the most innovative people on the planet, we should be pursuing this opportunity rather than ceding leadership to others!
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UNI88 wrote:
clenz wrote: I'm actually doing a research paper/presentation for a class about Global Warming. Well it was supposed to be about global warming, I explained to my teacher that I preferred not to do "global warming" as it has been beaten to death and I believe it is more natural cycle than man made. I told her I would rather take it the route of living more sustainably, and giving the class something they can actually use in life instead of "facts" backed by politically agendad douches on both sides of the argument.

She loved the idea.
I'd like to read that when you finish.
The paper won't be long. It can be no longer than 10 pages including cover page and citations. Most of what the paper is for is research for the 20-30 minute presentation I have to give in class. If I feel I did a decent job I'll save it as a PDF and post it.
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D1B wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
As others have said on this thread we need to be responsible and treat our environment well. But we need to do it in an intelligent manner not based on hysteria or fear.
Fair enough H5.

What would be an intelligent way to present this?

Do you believe a distracted populace such as america is capable of a serious response without the employ of hysteria or fear or similar tactics?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hysteria or fear. Isn't that what you railed against for 8 years of GWB's tenure? :lol: :lol:
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I want pure communism. I wanna work side-by-side with Pamela Anderson on a fvcking catfish farm in Lousiana.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:I want pure communism. I wanna work side-by-side with Pamela Anderson on a fvcking catfish farm in Lousiana.

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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:I want pure communism. I wanna work side-by-side with Pamela Anderson on a fvcking catfish farm in Lousiana.

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But, Comrade Cat, then you would have to share her! To each, according to his abilities! From each, according to his needs!

Or is it the other way around?
I'll share, just wipe up after your hammer-and-sicklin' asses.
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Sounds like Carbon Credit sales have been slow.
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clenz wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gore is God.
Which just proves your theory of there is no God and the teachings of God are just a crutch for the week minded.... :mrgreen:
I'm still waiting for Mr. Cappy to explain this....
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clenz wrote:
clenz wrote: Which just proves your theory of there is no God and the teachings of God are just a crutch for the week minded.... :mrgreen:
I'm still waiting for Mr. Cappy to explain this....


What are you looking for, clenz?
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clenz wrote: I'm still waiting for Mr. Cappy to explain this....


What are you looking for, clenz?
You and D1 have been spouting about how religion is for the weak of mind and is nothing more than a crutch for the weak minded. You have claimed that religion, and the teachings of religion, are more or less complete bullshit.


If Gore is God, would that not make his "teachings" a bullshit filled cruch for the weak of mind?
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clenz wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:


What are you looking for, clenz?
You and D1 have been spouting about how religion is for the weak of mind and is nothing more than a crutch for the weak minded. You have claimed that religion, and the teachings of religion, are more or less complete bullshit.


If Gore is God, would that not make his "teachings" a bullshit filled cruch for the weak of mind?

:roll:


Oh, Jesus. Get with it, clenzomatic.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:
clenz wrote: You and D1 have been spouting about how religion is for the weak of mind and is nothing more than a crutch for the weak minded. You have claimed that religion, and the teachings of religion, are more or less complete bullshit.


If Gore is God, would that not make his "teachings" a bullshit filled cruch for the weak of mind?

:roll:


Oh, Jesus. Get with it, clenzomatic.

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I am with it. Gore is God, meaning everything he preaches is garbage for the weak minded..... I'll agree with that much. :mrgreen:
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