BCS Laugher

[bluehenbillk]

So as very few of you I found myself watching the BCS standings be revealed last night & was puzzled to how Oregon is still #2 & actually lost ground to Notre Dame this week even with the Irish not beating up a poor Boston College team.

I figured the Ducks were #3 in the computers - behind KState & ND. Well I almost fell out of my chair this morning to find out the computer geniuses have the Ducks a solid #4, even though every human poll imaginable has them a clear #1. So you think to yourself, well there still must be some heavy Alabama love out there & they have the Tide still ranked over Oregon. Nope.

None other than the Florida Gators are ranked #3 by the BCS computers . In fact, no BS, 5 of the 6 BCS computers have Florida over Oregon. This is the same Gator team that eeked out a home victory this week against the Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana.

To steal from ESPN's NFL coverage: "cmon man!"

[Grizalltheway]

Even I'll admit that Oregon's schedule has been pretty weak so far, especially OOC. And conference games against the likes of Colorado and Wazzu certainly don't help.

[BlueHen86]

I think Oregon will pass Florida this week. Oregon plays #13 Stanford, Florida plays and FCS.

[dal4018]

Too bad this isn't 2014 this will be the yr that all this non-sense will finally end.

[BlueHen86]

Even I'll admit that Oregon's schedule has been pretty weak so far, especially OOC. And conference games against the likes of Colorado and Wazzu certainly don't help.

They finish strong though, with two ranked teams (Stanford and Oregon St) and then the PAC-12 Championship game (if they beat Stanford).

Florida has Jacksonville State and then a ranked team in Florida State.

[Grizalltheway]

Even I'll admit that Oregon's schedule has been pretty weak so far, especially OOC. And conference games against the likes of Colorado and Wazzu certainly don't help.

They finish strong though, with two ranked teams (Stanford and Oregon St) and then the PAC-12 Championship game (if they beat Stanford).

Florida has Jacksonville State and then a ranked team in Florida State.

Yep. If they win out, they'll be in the title game, regardless of what happens elsewhere.

[MSUDuo]

They finish strong though, with two ranked teams (Stanford and Oregon St) and then the PAC-12 Championship game (if they beat Stanford).

Florida has Jacksonville State and then a ranked team in Florida State.

Yep. If they win out, they'll be in the title game, regardless of what happens elsewhere.

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

[BlueHen86]

Yep. If they win out, they'll be in the title game, regardless of what happens elsewhere.

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

That's going to be tough to do. Oregon and K-State will play three more games if they win out, ND only has 2 left no matter what. ND has the weakest remaining schedule, pretty hard to justify moving them up if K-State and Oregon win out.

[SuperHornet]

I know ESPN is all about the ECB, but I thought it was CBS that was all over the SEC's jock. Isn't ESPN supposed to be the Big Ten worshipper?

[Grizalltheway]

Yep. If they win out, they'll be in the title game, regardless of what happens elsewhere.

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

The voters have had Oregon at #2 all season, and now #1. Why would they suddenly change their tune if they're 13-0 and ND is 12-0? If anything, they would jump K-State, who's currently #2 in the human polls.

[BlueHen86]

I know ESPN is all about the ECB, but I thought it was CBS that was all over the SEC's jock. Isn't ESPN supposed to be the Big Ten worshipper?

How do you know that? If you want people to take you serioulsy (and maybe you don't) stop crying wolf about ECB.

ESPN worships the sports that they televise.

[BlueHen86]

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

The voters have had Oregon at #2 all season, and now #1. Why would they suddenly change their tune if they're 13-0 and ND is 12-0? If anything, they would jump K-State, who's currently #2 in the human polls.

ND jumping them could happen, but I don't see it.

[89Hen]

Oregon and K-State will play three more games if they win out

Big XII doesn't have a CG this year. KSU only has Baylor and Texas left. Both KSU and ND will have faced 5 ranked teams (at the time they played) and have two opponents in common that is a wash, but maybe favors ND. KSU also played a I-AA, not sure how that factors into the computers.

KSU 52 - Miami 13
ND 41 - Miami 3

KSU 24 - Oklahoma 19
ND 30 - Oklahoma 13

[BlueHen86]

Oregon and K-State will play three more games if they win out

Big XII doesn't have a CG this year. KSU only has Baylor and Texas left. Both KSU and ND will have faced 5 ranked teams (at the time they played) and have two opponents in common that is a wash, but maybe favors ND. KSU also played a I-AA, not sure how that factors into the computers.

KSU 52 - Miami 13
ND 41 - Miami 3

KSU 24 - Oklahoma 19
ND 30 - Oklahoma 13

Forgot about that. That makes K-State a little more vulnerable.

[89Hen]

I just want the system to blow up. They've gotten lucky too many years with this thing. Of course the BCS proponents will point to the fact that they have some changes coming, but it's ridiculous that they take so long to implement. AFAIK, we went from 16 to 20 in one off-season and will be doing the same to 24.

[BlueHen86]

I just want the system to blow up. They've gotten lucky too many years with this thing. Of course the BCS proponents will point to the fact that they have some changes coming, but it's ridiculous that they take so long to implement. AFAIK, we went from 16 to 20 in one off-season and will be doing the same to 24.

The best way to blow it up is to have an undefeated Notre Dame not in the title game. I'd love it if ND was somehow leap frogged by Alabama.

[Willie]

Isn't ESPN supposed to be the Big Ten worshipper?

You're joking right?

[BlueHen86]

Isn't ESPN supposed to be the Big Ten worshipper?

You're joking right?

He doesn't know what he is talking about. One sentence it's ESPN and ECB, next sentence it's ESPN worships the Big Ten.

He must think the Big Ten is an East Coast conference.

[dbackjon]

Too bad this isn't 2014 this will be the yr that all this non-sense will finally end.

No, it won't. Until they go to a full 16-20 team playoff, it won't end.

[UNI88]

You're joking right?

He doesn't know what he is talking about. One sentence it's ESPN and ECB, next sentence it's ESPN worships the Big Ten.

He must think the Big Ten is an East Coast conference.

Doesn't the continental divide separate the East Coast from the West Coast?

[Grizalltheway]

He doesn't know what he is talking about. One sentence it's ESPN and ECB, next sentence it's ESPN worships the Big Ten.

He must think the Big Ten is an East Coast conference.

Doesn't the continental divide separate the East Coast from the West Coast?

Nope, just separates the best from the rest.

[BlueHen86]

Too bad this isn't 2014 this will be the yr that all this non-sense will finally end.

No, it won't. Until they go to a full 16-20 team playoff, it won't end.

No matter what number you pick, there will always be somebody complaining that they got screwed. 16 teams would be okay, but I'd rather see an 8 team playoff, with no autobid to any conference.

Even if that meant Oregon, K-State, ND and 5 SEC teams.

[SuperHornet]

ESPN worships the sports that they televise.

That may well be, but remember that most of the games they broadcast (outside of maybe Pac-12) come from east of the Mississippi. On the rare occasion that they broadcast a non-playoff FCS game, it involves teams located east of the Mississippi. If they leave out a playoff game, it's guaranteed to be one taking place west of the Mississippi.

ESPN = ECB. East coast dummies just won't admit it.

[BlueHen86]

That may well be, but remember that most of the games they broadcast (outside of maybe Pac-12) come from east of the Mississippi. On the rare occasion that they broadcast a non-playoff FCS game, it involves teams located east of the Mississippi. If they leave out a playoff game, it's guaranteed to be one taking place west of the Mississippi.

ESPN = ECB. East coast dummies just won't admit it.

I bet you're afraid of your own shadow too.

[89Hen]

That may well be, but remember that most of the games they broadcast (outside of maybe Pac-12) come from east of the Mississippi. On the rare occasion that they broadcast a non-playoff FCS game, it involves teams located east of the Mississippi. If they leave out a playoff game, it's guaranteed to be one taking place west of the Mississippi.

ESPN = ECB. East coast dummies just won't admit it.

One week sample...

Wed., Nov. 14 Ohio at Ball State 8 p.m. ESPNU
Wed., Nov. 14 Toledo at Northern Illinois 9 p.m. ESPN2
Thurs., Nov. 15 North Carolina at Virginia 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Fri., Nov. 16 Hawaii at Air Force 9:30 p.m. ESPN2
Fri., Nov. 16 FIU at Florida Atlantic TBD ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Florida State at Maryland noon ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Iowa at Michigan noon ESPN
Sat., Nov. 17 Northwestern at Michigan State noon ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Duke at Georgia Tech 3:30 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 NC State at Clemson 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Ohio State at Wisconsin 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Tennessee at Vanderbilt 7 p.m. ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Syracuse at Missouri 7 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Kansas State at Baylor 8 p.m. ESPN
Sat., Nov. 17 Stanford at Oregon 8 p.m. ABC
Sat., Nov. 17 Arizona at Utah 10 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 BYU at San Jose State 10:30 p.m. ESPN2

6 of 17 (35.3%) I-A games on ESPN TV outlets are at teams west of the Mississippi. By my count 49 of 124 (39.5%) of the teams are west of the Mississippi. So yes, ESPN is biased by a lot.