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[SuperHornet]

And what do they do during those games between plays (or DURING plays if it's a blowout)? They yack on and on about the Big Ten (and eastern football in general)....

[BlueHen86]

And what do they do during those games between plays (or DURING plays if it's a blowout)? They yack on and on about the Big Ten (and eastern football in general)....

The Big Ten is a mid western conference. The only eastern FBS conferences are the ACC and the Big East, and there isn't much to say about them right now.

[Wedgebuster]

Alabama will need help to get back to the BCS title game after its 13-game winning streak came to an end over the weekend, but the Crimson Tide are still among the top two teams in the country according to the UPS Team Performance Index.

Unlike past weeks, however, Kansas State is now a very clear No. 1.



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[JohnStOnge]

The BCS made the decision to move to power rating systems that do not consider margin of victory. Therefore, a win over Louisiana Lafayette is a win over Louisiana Lafayette whether it is by 1 or by 70. If you read the comments by people who develop power rating systems you'll see that they think power rating systems that consider margin of victory are better.

So in Sagarin's ratings, for instance, Oregon is rated ahead of Florida in the systems where margin of victory is considered (3 vs. 8 and 2 vs. 6) but not in the one that the BCS uses where it is not (5 vs. 3). And it's pretty easy to see why Sagarin's system that doesn't consider margin of victory would rate Florida higher.

Sagarin has Florida as having the 7th toughest schedule and Oregon having the 45th toughest. It has Florida as having played 4 teams in the top 10 and Oregon having played none.

I think Oregon looks very good. But, honestly, they haven't played a top 10 caliber team. They haven't played against an elite defense. So on and so forth.

It's kind of like Alabama. Alabama was really cruising. The Tide was blowing everybody out. But they hadn't played a top 10 caliber team until they played LSU. They were extremely fortunate to win that one. Then the next week they played another top 10 caliber team and weren't as fortunate. Who you play does make a difference. And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to play a top 10 caliber team all year. So we're not going to get to see how they do when that happens until the BCS championship game.

[Grizalltheway]

The BCS made the decision to move to power rating systems that do not consider margin of victory. Therefore, a win over Louisiana Lafayette is a win over Louisiana Lafayette whether it is by 1 or by 70. If you read the comments by people who develop power rating systems you'll see that they think power rating systems that consider margin of victory are better.

So in Sagarin's ratings, for instance, Oregon is rated ahead of Florida in the systems where margin of victory is considered (3 vs. 8 and 2 vs. 6) but not in the one that the BCS uses where it is not (5 vs. 3). And it's pretty easy to see why Sagarin's system that doesn't consider margin of victory would rate Florida higher.

Sagarin has Florida as having the 7th toughest schedule and Oregon having the 45th toughest. It has Florida as having played 4 teams in the top 10 and Oregon having played none.

I think Oregon looks very good. But, honestly, they haven't played a top 10 caliber team. They haven't played against an elite defense. So on and so forth.

It's kind of like Alabama. Alabama was really cruising. The Tide was blowing everybody out. But they hadn't played a top 10 caliber team until they played LSU. They were extremely fortunate to win that one. Then the next week they played another top 10 caliber team and weren't as fortunate. Who you play does make a difference. And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to play a top 10 caliber team all year. So we're not going to get to see how they do when that happens until the BCS championship game.

Stanford's ranking doesn't reflect it, but they are definitely a top 10 "caliber" team in my book. And Oregon State isn't far behind.

[BlueHen86]

The BCS made the decision to move to power rating systems that do not consider margin of victory. Therefore, a win over Louisiana Lafayette is a win over Louisiana Lafayette whether it is by 1 or by 70. If you read the comments by people who develop power rating systems you'll see that they think power rating systems that consider margin of victory are better.

So in Sagarin's ratings, for instance, Oregon is rated ahead of Florida in the systems where margin of victory is considered (3 vs. 8 and 2 vs. 6) but not in the one that the BCS uses where it is not (5 vs. 3). And it's pretty easy to see why Sagarin's system that doesn't consider margin of victory would rate Florida higher.

Sagarin has Florida as having the 7th toughest schedule and Oregon having the 45th toughest. It has Florida as having played 4 teams in the top 10 and Oregon having played none.

I think Oregon looks very good. But, honestly, they haven't played a top 10 caliber team. They haven't played against an elite defense. So on and so forth.

It's kind of like Alabama. Alabama was really cruising. The Tide was blowing everybody out. But they hadn't played a top 10 caliber team until they played LSU. They were extremely fortunate to win that one. Then the next week they played another top 10 caliber team and weren't as fortunate. Who you play does make a difference. And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to play a top 10 caliber team all year. So we're not going to get to see how they do when that happens until the BCS championship game.

That's the way the system works, and it's part of the reason that almost nobody likes it. The SEC is the best conference again this year, but they beat each other up and now it's possible that no SEC team will be in the NC game.

There is no reason no to have at least a 4 team playoff this year, but it won't happen.

[BlueHen86]

The BCS made the decision to move to power rating systems that do not consider margin of victory. Therefore, a win over Louisiana Lafayette is a win over Louisiana Lafayette whether it is by 1 or by 70. If you read the comments by people who develop power rating systems you'll see that they think power rating systems that consider margin of victory are better.

So in Sagarin's ratings, for instance, Oregon is rated ahead of Florida in the systems where margin of victory is considered (3 vs. 8 and 2 vs. 6) but not in the one that the BCS uses where it is not (5 vs. 3). And it's pretty easy to see why Sagarin's system that doesn't consider margin of victory would rate Florida higher.

Sagarin has Florida as having the 7th toughest schedule and Oregon having the 45th toughest. It has Florida as having played 4 teams in the top 10 and Oregon having played none.

I think Oregon looks very good. But, honestly, they haven't played a top 10 caliber team. They haven't played against an elite defense. So on and so forth.

It's kind of like Alabama. Alabama was really cruising. The Tide was blowing everybody out. But they hadn't played a top 10 caliber team until they played LSU. They were extremely fortunate to win that one. Then the next week they played another top 10 caliber team and weren't as fortunate. Who you play does make a difference. And it doesn't look like Oregon is going to play a top 10 caliber team all year. So we're not going to get to see how they do when that happens until the BCS championship game.

Stanford's ranking doesn't reflect it, but they are definitely a top 10 "caliber" team in my book. And Oregon State isn't far behind.

Go Ducks! I've become a huge fan.

[AZGrizFan]

Even I'll admit that Oregon's schedule has been pretty weak so far, especially OOC. And conference games against the likes of Colorado and Wazzu certainly don't help.

Seriously? Check out Florida's schedule...

Vanderbilt?
Kentucky?
La-Lafayette?
Jacksonville State?
Bowling Green?

Fresno State waxes any one of those teams.

Hell, even Arkansas State beat La-Lafayette 50-27 (and Florida barely squeaked by).

Florida is a poser.

[SuperHornet]

And what do they do during those games between plays (or DURING plays if it's a blowout)? They yack on and on about the Big Ten (and eastern football in general)....

The Big Ten is a mid western conference. The only eastern FBS conferences are the ACC and the Big East, and there isn't much to say about them right now.

I didn't know Happy Valley was in the midwest.

[eagleskins]

ESPN is all over the SEC's nuts. They never mention SEC OOC losses, and near losses to terrible teams.

[eagleskins]

Lets not forget a mid tier Big 12 team just won in Tuscaloosa.

[BlueHen86]

The Big Ten is a mid western conference. The only eastern FBS conferences are the ACC and the Big East, and there isn't much to say about them right now.

I didn't know Happy Valley was in the midwest.

I didn't know that Lincoln was on the East Coast.

Stop being an idiot. There are 12 teams in the Big Ten, 11 of them are based in the midwest. Just because Penn St. joined doesn't change the fact that the Big 12 is a midwest conference.

[rkwittem]

Yep. If they win out, they'll be in the title game, regardless of what happens elsewhere.

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

Oh yes they will. Not every media hack is a Notre Dame hack. Plenty of enmity out there towards the Irish.

[rkwittem]

That may well be, but remember that most of the games they broadcast (outside of maybe Pac-12) come from east of the Mississippi. On the rare occasion that they broadcast a non-playoff FCS game, it involves teams located east of the Mississippi. If they leave out a playoff game, it's guaranteed to be one taking place west of the Mississippi.

ESPN = ECB. East coast dummies just won't admit it.

One week sample...

Wed., Nov. 14 Ohio at Ball State 8 p.m. ESPNU
Wed., Nov. 14 Toledo at Northern Illinois 9 p.m. ESPN2
Thurs., Nov. 15 North Carolina at Virginia 7:30 p.m. ESPN
Fri., Nov. 16 Hawaii at Air Force 9:30 p.m. ESPN2
Fri., Nov. 16 FIU at Florida Atlantic TBD ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Florida State at Maryland noon ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Iowa at Michigan noon ESPN
Sat., Nov. 17 Northwestern at Michigan State noon ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Duke at Georgia Tech 3:30 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 NC State at Clemson 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Ohio State at Wisconsin 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Tennessee at Vanderbilt 7 p.m. ESPN2
Sat., Nov. 17 Syracuse at Missouri 7 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 Kansas State at Baylor 8 p.m. ESPN
Sat., Nov. 17 Stanford at Oregon 8 p.m. ABC
Sat., Nov. 17 Arizona at Utah 10 p.m. ESPNU
Sat., Nov. 17 BYU at San Jose State 10:30 p.m. ESPN2

6 of 17 (35.3%) I-A games on ESPN TV outlets are at teams west of the Mississippi. By my count 49 of 124 (39.5%) of the teams are west of the Mississippi. So yes, ESPN is biased by a lot.

That's where most of the viewers are, genius. ESPN is following the ratings.

[89Hen]

Disagree. If ND is there I think they jump them. Just don't think the voters will let an undefeated ND not play in the NCG

Oh yes they will. Not every media hack is a Notre Dame hack. Plenty of enmity out there towards the Irish.

Few teams are as loved and hated. Duke basketball comes to mind.

[tampajag]

I think Oregon will pass Florida this week. Oregon plays #13 Stanford, Florida plays and FCS.

Don't worry, Florida will have 2 losses on 11/24

[tampajag]

Even I'll admit that Oregon's schedule has been pretty weak so far, especially OOC. And conference games against the likes of Colorado and Wazzu certainly don't help.

Seriously? Check out Florida's schedule...

Vanderbilt?
Kentucky?
La-Lafayette?
Jacksonville State?
Bowling Green?

Fresno State waxes any one of those teams.

Hell, even Arkansas State beat La-Lafayette 50-27 (and Florida barely squeaked by).

Florida is a poser.

I agree, but then again I may be biased

[CID1990]

Did Alabama lose or something?

Seriously I don't keep up with BCS anymore and I am richer for it.

[SuperHornet]

Stop being an idiot, 86.

You REALLY didn't know that for most people on the CORRECT Coast, anything east of the Mississippi is "East Coast?" Heck, just ask FedEx. Anything not in Cali and certain parts of AZ are considered "East Coast" when shipping from Cali.

[BlueHen86]

Stop being an idiot, 86.

You REALLY didn't know that for most people on the CORRECT Coast, anything east of the Mississippi is "East Coast?" Heck, just ask FedEx. Anything not in Cali and certain parts of AZ are considered "East Coast" when shipping from Cali.

Well, considering that you have a degree from Liberty and think the Earth is 6000 years old, I guess learning geography from Fed Ex is probably a step up.