Sucky quarterbacks don't do THIS...

[SuperHornet]

Don't run Cover Zero on this guy, or he'll burn you every time!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUi1qLt-Xxo[/youtube]

[Vidav]

Sucky QBs don't throw really short passes to wide open receivers?

Just face it, Tebow is shit and you only like him because he is religious.

[Grizalltheway]

Sucky QBs don't throw really short passes to wide open receivers?

Just face it, Tebow is shit and you only like him because he is religious.

Man the Broncos really blew it dumping him for Manning. That guy could never pull off a throw like that.

[Vidav]

Sucky QBs don't throw really short passes to wide open receivers?

Just face it, Tebow is shit and you only like him because he is religious.

Man the Broncos really blew it dumping him for Manning. That guy could never pull off a throw like that.

Agreed. Manning is shit compared to Tebow.

[AZGrizFan]

No, they do this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHYsXUXUkpA[/youtube]

[clenz]

Yeah, that slant route that had 65 yac really showed the world tebow is an amazing passing qb

Sent from the nexus of the universe

[SuperHornet]

Nice way to put words in my mouth, V. I did NOT say that, and I WOULD not say that. I don't care what a guy's name is, a second year guy CANNOT be better than P. Manning is NOW. All I'm saying is that for a second year guy, Tebow is pretty good. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. He is definitely NOT Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.

Leaf and Russell wouldn't have made that read, clenz. Stick to officiating. PLEASE!

[clenz]

Nice way to put words in my mouth, V. I did NOT say that, and I WOULD not say that. I don't care what a guy's name is, a second year guy CANNOT be better than P. Manning is NOW. All I'm saying is that for a second year guy, Tebow is pretty good. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. He is definitely NOT Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.

Leaf and Russell wouldn't have made that read, clenz. Stick to officiating. PLEASE!

You're right....Tebow isn't Leaf or Russell...they have/had better stats.

They all played 3 seasons (so far) so the stats are pretty spot on to each other


Tebow Career
47.9 % completion
2400 yards
17 td

Leaf Career
48.4 % completion
3700 yards
14 TD

Russell Career
52.1 % completion
4,000 yards
18 TD


Thats WITH TEBOW PLAYING MORE CAREER GAMES through the same period in their careers!


I say this with the utmost respect...SH, you don't know jack fucking shit about anything.

[dal4018]

Don't run Cover Zero on this guy, or he'll burn you every time!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUi1qLt-Xxo[/youtube]

This should have been told to our defensive co-ordinator "Dick Head" Lebeau absolutely no pressure on Tebow and he was in the pocket looking like Unitas or Baugh in their prime.

[dal4018]

Man the Broncos really blew it dumping him for Manning. That guy could never pull off a throw like that.

Agreed. Manning is **** compared to Tebow.

Will you write Tebow's HOF speech for him??

[clenz]

Plus that was the only read for tebow. He had one option and didn't fuck it up...and then was bailed out by the dbs taking horribly bad angles to get to thomas

Sent from the nexus of the universe

[grizzaholic]

Nice way to put words in my mouth, V. I did NOT say that, and I WOULD not say that. I don't care what a guy's name is, a second year guy CANNOT be better than P. Manning is NOW. All I'm saying is that for a second year guy, Tebow is pretty good. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. He is definitely NOT Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.

Leaf and Russell wouldn't have made that read, clenz. Stick to officiating. PLEASE!

I think I will stick with Dalton and Newton...

[SuperHornet]

Nice way to put words in my mouth, V. I did NOT say that, and I WOULD not say that. I don't care what a guy's name is, a second year guy CANNOT be better than P. Manning is NOW. All I'm saying is that for a second year guy, Tebow is pretty good. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. He is definitely NOT Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell.

Leaf and Russell wouldn't have made that read, clenz. Stick to officiating. PLEASE!

I think I will stick with Dalton and Newton...

Dalton, yes. Newton, no.

Even as a rookie, I'll take Griffin over Newton any day of the week.

[Seahawks08]

Tebow may be a sucky QB, but he's better than Mark Sanchez. Tebow should have gotten a chance in NY but that dick known as Rex didn't give him a shot.

[SuperHornet]

Tebow may be a sucky QB, but he's better than Mark Sanchez. Tebow should have gotten a chance in NY but that dick known as Rex didn't give him a shot.

These ignoramuses just can't handle the fact that Tebow is better than ANYBODY. Trying to justify that unjustifiable trash makes them sound REALLY stupid....

[Vidav]

Tebow may be a sucky QB, but he's better than Mark Sanchez. Tebow should have gotten a chance in NY but that dick known as Rex didn't give him a shot.

These ignoramuses just can't handle the fact that Tebow is better than ANYBODY. Trying to justify that unjustifiable trash makes them sound REALLY stupid....

Tebow isn't better than any QB in the NFL. The only people that think he might be are blind followers.

Please show some actual stats that show Tebow is a good QB. Single plays like the one you posted above don't count. All QBs can make one or two good plays. And this one was all Thomas, not Tebow.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Tebow may be a sucky QB, but he's better than Mark Sanchez. Tebow should have gotten a chance in NY but that dick known as Rex didn't give him a shot.

These ignoramuses just can't handle the fact that Tebow is better than ANYBODY. Trying to justify that unjustifiable trash makes them sound REALLY stupid....

What's unjustifiable is your claim that he's a good QB, or even good for a second year QB. Tebow might not be the worst QB in the NFL, but he's close to it. He's a better RB than he is a QB, and that's not saying much.

[clenz]

These ignoramuses just can't handle the fact that Tebow is better than ANYBODY. Trying to justify that unjustifiable trash makes them sound REALLY stupid....

What's unjustifiable is your claim that he's a good QB, or even good for a second year QB. Tebow might not be the worst QB in the NFL, but he's close to it. He's a better RB than he is a QB, and that's not saying much.

Should I take the time to compared a bunch of QB's in their second year in the NFL?

I'll do it just to prove SH wrong....I just don't want to do it if others don't want to see it

[clenz]

What's unjustifiable is your claim that he's a good QB, or even good for a second year QB. Tebow might not be the worst QB in the NFL, but he's close to it. He's a better RB than he is a QB, and that's not saying much.

Should I take the time to compared a bunch of QB's in their second year in the NFL?

I'll do it just to prove SH wrong....I just don't want to do it if others don't want to see it

I'm going it anyway. I'm going to post the stats of the QB's second year starting, since the play that started all of this was in Tebows second year.....


I'll go with Tebow, Manning, Brees, Ponder, Manning the younger, Leaf, Marino, Rogers (his second year starting), Matty Ice, Sanchez, Brady, Tavaris Jackson, Sam Bradford, Alex Smith, Drew Bledsoe, Chad Heene, Blaine Gabbert, Cunningham, Jeff George, Warren Moon, I'll also through Luck and RG3 rookie seasons in there.


Any other requests for comparison let me know.

[clenz]

I'm part way through my comparisons.....I'm adding QB's as I go as well.

It's not looking good for Timmy.


His stats fall in line with Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, and Vince Young


Hell, as bad as Ponder has been this year he is head and shoulders a head of timmy....

[clenz]

Also, prior to that pass Timmy was 9-20, finished the game 10-21.

Well over half of Tebows yards passing in that game were YAC.

[Seahawks08]

Please show some actual stats that show Tebow is a good QB. Single plays like the one you posted above don't count. All QBs can make one or two good plays. And this one was all Thomas, not Tebow.

I wish I had stats from this year, but sorry no can do. You can thank Rex on the way out.

[SuperHornet]

Ws are more important than passing percentage. Orton was 1-4, lost his job, and got cut while Tebow turned the Broncos around and won a playoff game.

Anyone who says that Orton is better than Tebow is a freaking idiot....

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Don't run Cover Zero on this guy, or he'll burn you every once in a while!

This I agree with.

[Ibanez]

Don't run Cover Zero on this guy, or he'll burn you every time!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUi1qLt-Xxo[/youtube]

Isn't he being traded...again?