Joe Flacco: Super Bowl XLVII MVP

[bluehenbillk]

Jeez with that logic Navy should be killing it when it comes to getting QB's.
"WE HAD ROGER STAUBACH COME PLAY HERE AND YOU'LL BE THE NEXT ONE"

Sorry, UD fans. This will boost fan interest for a bit, but it won't make a 3 star high school QB recruit go there next year when he could go to a BCS conference team, like almost all of them do and whether or not it's in their best interest.

Uh, it already did help. Pat Devlin came to UD, partly on the knowledge that a guy named Flacco went to UD and was drafted in the first round. I'd say Devlin was a successful QB at UD for his time here.

But Devlin was a 5-star recruit out of HS, not a 3-star...

[89Hen]

So a QB who sees a UD QB get drafted in the first round, start in the NFL in game one, win a bunch of playoff games, win the SB and then a SB MVP won't think... maybe I could go to UD and succeed like Joe?

Jeez with that logic Navy should be killing it when it comes to getting QB's.
"WE HAD ROGER STAUBACH COME PLAY HERE AND YOU'LL BE THE NEXT ONE"

Sorry, UD fans. This will boost fan interest for a bit, but it won't make a 3 star high school QB recruit go there next year when he could go to a BCS conference team, like almost all of them do and whether or not it's in their best interest.

Who said it would? We're not competing with Bama for the next QB. It WILL help against JMU, Towson, Elon, Lehigh, etc...

BTW, I'd demand a refund from Z on your analogy classes. Joe Cool was the QB just 5 years ago.

[Gil Dobie]

Congrats to former NDSU linebacker Jerry Rosburg on a Super Bowl ring. He is the special teams and asst. head coach for the Baltimore Ravens. Rosburg played for Jim Wacker in the mid 70s. Probably responsible for that kick return by Jones for a TD and the fake field goal try?

[dal4018]

56 yards is not the longest TD grab in Super Bowl history. Muhsin Muhammad and Antonio Freeman both have longer receptions. Muhammad's was 85 yards and I think it is still the record.

I understood him to say the kick return was the longest. Get TD Reception on a bad pass by Flacco though. The lights took the steam out of a Baltimore blowout, Baltimore offense was zombiesque in the second half.

Yes I know the longest TD grab ever was 85 yds as opposed to the 56 yd td catch by Jones.I was just saying it was the longest in the game yesterday.My apologies.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Yes.

So a QB who sees a UD QB get drafted in the first round, start in the NFL in game one, win a bunch of playoff games, win the SB and then a SB MVP won't think... maybe I could go to UD and succeed like Joe?

Except that Joe owes all of his success to K.C. Keeler and he's not there anymore.

[Seahawks08]

Hell of a game! Especially seeing that crybaby coach for the 49ers lose was something special! And I think Flacco just moved ahead of Big Ben on the QB depth chart in the NFL.

[Vidav]

Hell of a game! Especially seeing that crybaby coach for the 49ers lose was something special! And I think Flacco just moved ahead of Big Ben on the QB depth chart in the NFL.

I'm not a rabid fan of either, but why do you say that?

[dal4018]

Good question especially when Ben has 2-1 advantage.

[Seahawks08]

I'm not a rabid fan of either, but why do you say that?

First, let me rank the QBs:
Rodgers, Brady, P. Manning, Brees, E. Manning, Flacco, Ben

I feel that we've seen the best from Ben and he will start trending downward. At the same time, I think we are beginning to see the best of Flacco right now. Also, I think Ben's injuries will hamper him over the coming years, as he hasn't completed 16 games since 2008. Plus, it shouldn't even be a dig on Ben since at this moment, you could interchange the last three QBs and make an argument for each on who should be ranked higher.

[CAA Flagship]

So a QB who sees a UD QB get drafted in the first round, start in the NFL in game one, win a bunch of playoff games, win the SB and then a SB MVP won't think... maybe I could go to UD and succeed like Joe?

Not to mention the size of the donations Joe should be making.

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

[AshevilleApp]

Not to mention the size of the donations Joe should be making.

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

Apparently he's got a supermodel to spend his money on.

[YoUDeeMan]

Not to mention the size of the donations Joe should be making.

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

The school already made their scholarship money back on Flacco with the sold out games and the publicity, so call it even. Flacco owes UD nothing.

Harker and his minions (that's how business is done in the other big football schools) destroyed the fan base...and he is still here.

Perhaps Flacco will let the BOT know he won't give big bucks until Harker and the new AD are gone. That would be fitting.

[kalm]

Not to mention the size of the donations Joe should be making.

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

That's exactly why I phrased it "should be making", and you maybe right about awareness and gratefulness of the opportunity they were given by their school.

I guess we're a little spoiled with Roos kicking in $500,000 to kick start the red turf project, but some guys get it:

"I am grateful for my time at EWU," Roos said. "Not only did I meet my wife during my time at the university, but Eastern's leadership, coaches and football program paved the way for my professional success in football. It is exciting to be able to give back."

Kaufmann's letter to the fan base about leaving early echoes these sentiments and perhaps he'll also return the generosity if he makes it:

Deciding to leave school early was not an easy decision and not one that I
took lightly. It was an extremely long process and I spent several weeks
talking it over with my close friends and family. In the end, I decided
that I was ready for the challenge of competing against the best athletes
in the world in the NFL.

Regardless of where I end up, I will always be an Eastern Washington Eagle
and Cheney will always have a special place in my heart. Eastern
Washington has given me so much over the last four years: some of my best
friends, an education, a national championship, and most importantly, a
fiancée. Because of this, I am eternally grateful to Eastern Washington
for taking a chance on me.

[GannonFan]

Not to mention the size of the donations Joe should be making.

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

Considering the marginal cost for a school to "give" a scholarship is pretty minimal (outside of room and board, a scholarship doesn't really cost the school anything - a scholarship athlete being admitted doesn't put a cap on how many students the school can admit, so they don't lose money there, and adding one more student to the campus doesn't mean the school needs to hire a whole bunch of new professors or add classroom space) I can't fault the athlete at all for not "giving" back. Heck, the number of schools with endowments approaching or exceeding a billion dollars means these "not for profit" schools are finding a lot of profits anyway.

[89Hen]

I'm not a rabid fan of either, but why do you say that?

First, let me rank the QBs:
Rodgers, Brady, P. Manning, Brees, E. Manning, Flacco, Ben

Why is Eli in front of Flacco? I know he has two SB's to Joe's one, but did you realize he doesn't have a playoff win other than in SB seasons?

Joe: 60.5% completion, 102/56 TD/INT, 7 rushing TD's in 5 seasons

Eli: 58.6% completion, 211/144 TD/INT, 4 rushing TD's in 9 seasons

[CAA Flagship]

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

Considering the marginal cost for a school to "give" a scholarship is pretty minimal (outside of room and board, a scholarship doesn't really cost the school anything - a scholarship athlete being admitted doesn't put a cap on how many students the school can admit, so they don't lose money there, and adding one more student to the campus doesn't mean the school needs to hire a whole bunch of new professors or add classroom space) I can't fault the athlete at all for not "giving" back. Heck, the number of schools with endowments approaching or exceeding a billion dollars means these "not for profit" schools are finding a lot of profits anyway.

I think you are leaning waaaaay too far to one side on this. FCS athletic departments are funded much differently than BCS athletic departments. FCS fights for every dollar to operate. If BCS schools are fighting for any dollars, it is for luxury items as the critical operating costs are paid for from TV revenue. I'm not saying that all players should give back. I'm saying that all players should consider giving back if they have an opportunity (and yes, making millions is an opportunity). I'm not saying they have to give the value they received for free while in school. And I'm not saying they have to give a million dollars. But when you are making millions, stroking a $10,000 check provides more benefit to the recipient than it does sacrifice for the donor.

[BDKJMU]

Uh, it already did help. Pat Devlin came to UD, partly on the knowledge that a guy named Flacco went to UD and was drafted in the first round. I'd say Devlin was a successful QB at UD for his time here.

But Devlin was a 5-star recruit out of HS, not a 3-star...

4 star both Rivals and Scout:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... vlin-29315" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p= ... id=1517288" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

It's amazing how little this happens though.
Schools do a poor job educating athletes on the value of a scholarship and where the money comes from. Many times, the athlete associates with the coaching staff only. And once the staff is gone, the ties to the school are broken (except to come back on campus for a couple of hours to see their number retired or enter the school's Hall of Fame).
Hey Verlander, I'm talking to you!!!!!

Considering the marginal cost for a school to "give" a scholarship is pretty minimal (outside of room and board, a scholarship doesn't really cost the school anything - a scholarship athlete being admitted doesn't put a cap on how many students the school can admit, so they don't lose money there, and adding one more student to the campus doesn't mean the school needs to hire a whole bunch of new professors or add classroom space) I can't fault the athlete at all for not "giving" back. Heck, the number of schools with endowments approaching or exceeding a billion dollars means these "not for profit" schools are finding a lot of profits anyway.

But a couple hundred of scholly athletes do cost a school a lot more coin that just room and board.

[GannonFan]

Considering the marginal cost for a school to "give" a scholarship is pretty minimal (outside of room and board, a scholarship doesn't really cost the school anything - a scholarship athlete being admitted doesn't put a cap on how many students the school can admit, so they don't lose money there, and adding one more student to the campus doesn't mean the school needs to hire a whole bunch of new professors or add classroom space) I can't fault the athlete at all for not "giving" back. Heck, the number of schools with endowments approaching or exceeding a billion dollars means these "not for profit" schools are finding a lot of profits anyway.

But a couple hundred of scholly athletes do cost a school a lot more coin that just room and board.

True, but not because of the scholarship they are giving the athlete. That part of it is of little to almost no cost to the school.

[Seahawks08]

Why is Eli in front of Flacco? I know he has two SB's to Joe's one, but did you realize he doesn't have a playoff win other than in SB seasons?

Joe: 60.5% completion, 102/56 TD/INT, 7 rushing TD's in 5 seasons

Eli: 58.6% completion, 211/144 TD/INT, 4 rushing TD's in 9 seasons

IMO, Eli, Flacco, and Ben can all be argued for the 5th spot. They consist of the second tier, and based on who's ahead of them, that isn't a bad thing.