Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq War

[kalm]

He's just butthurt that they don't classify homosexuality as a mental illness.

You know I hadn't thought about that in the context of this discussion but the pronoucements of the fields of psychology and psychiartry on the issue of homosexuality are indeed further evidence of how little credibility those fields have.

Or it'd better to say should have. They do have credibility in terms of perceptions within the population. But they shouldn't. The confidence is misplaced.

I was once diagnosed with a terminal brain cloud. But it went away.

[CID1990]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Unfortunately he ran on the promise of being a bridge builder, the Lightbringer.


Sent from the center of the universe.

[houndawg]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Yeah, Obama was beating the conks so bad that the donks lost 6 Senate seats and lost the House in 10' while losing 63 seats.

The 14' midterm will prove who's beating who...

Yeah. You tell 'em, BDORKJMU. South gonna rise again.

[houndawg]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Unfortunately he ran on the promise of being a bridge builder, the Lightbringer.


Sent from the center of the universe.

Yeah, too bad he got sidetracked into doing the payback first, wasted a lot of time.

[Baldy]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

[D1B]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

Baldy your partisan blindness is breathtaking....cult-like.

Obama destroyed the Republican Party.

[Baldy]

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

Baldy your partisan blindness is breathtaking....cult-like.

Obama destroyed the Republican Party.

So sez the King of the Kool-Aid drinkers.

[houndawg]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

Obama has punked the conks so badly that even a racist wack-job like Rand Paul can look like he has a clue by comparison.


It must take a lot of work to get past stupid to conk-stupid.

[UNI88]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Unfortunately he ran on the promise of being a bridge builder, the Lightbringer.

He lied. He's a politician so we should expect it.

Dubya campaigned that he would be a "compassionate conservative" and IMO he wasn't compassionate or conservative.

Obama has more in common with Dubya than either party wants to admit.

[UNI88]

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

Baldy your partisan blindness is breathtaking....cult-like.

Obama destroyed the Republican Party.

Obama did beat the snot out of the Republicans from roughly December - February but the sequester disaster that he predicted has so far turned out to be a Chicken Little "the sky is falling" prediction" and has definitely damaged his credibility.

[Baldy]

That was until the Rand Paul filibuster and Obama's doomsday prognostication for the sequester that fell flat on it's face. The White House has been kicking itself in the bag for the past couple of weeks now.

Obama has punked the conks so badly that even a racist wack-job like Rand Paul can look like he has a clue by comparison.


It must take a lot of work to get past stupid to conk-stupid.

Cool story...and about his sequester faceplant????

[kalm]

Unfortunately he ran on the promise of being a bridge builder, the Lightbringer.

He lied. He's a politician so we should expect it.

Dubya campaigned that he would be a "compassionate conservative" and IMO he wasn't compassionate or conservative.

Obama has more in common with Dubya than either party wants to admit.

Yeah this.

In your face, Ivytalk!

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Maybe she means the name, PTSD, didn't exist. Back in the day it was SHELLSHOCK!

Carlin did a great skit on this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYE_unBFxuU[/youtube]

I hadn't seen this skit, very good one indeed.

I'll echo the the thoughts of the rational posters above. PTSD is very real and hard to diagnose. I hope the people that really need the help can get and and fuck the ones that don't need the help and won't stop crying about it. The cry babies are just taking away resources for the ones that really need it.

[D1B]

Obama has punked the conks so badly that even a racist wack-job like Rand Paul can look like he has a clue by comparison.


It must take a lot of work to get past stupid to conk-stupid.

Cool story...and about his sequester faceplant????

What about it? Time will tell.

[D1B]

Baldy your partisan blindness is breathtaking....cult-like.

Obama destroyed the Republican Party.

So sez the King of the Kool-Aid drinkers.

Voted for Gary Johnson.

[Bronco]

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Wait until the huddled masses see what Obamacare will cost them

My senator Baucus is already running ads.

Must be worried about when he was claiming he wrote the bill

later when asked a question about Obamacare he said he didn't read it

[ASUMountaineer]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Are you sure Obama did that? It seems to me the GOP was much better at doing that to themselves.

[UNI88]

You know I hadn't thought about that in the context of this discussion but the pronoucements of the fields of psychology and psychiartry on the issue of homosexuality are indeed further evidence of how little credibility those fields have.

Or it'd better to say should have. They do have credibility in terms of perceptions within the population. But they shouldn't. The confidence is misplaced.

I was once diagnosed with a terminal brain cloud. But it went away.

The cloud or your brain?

You pitch softballs like that and someone has to hit them.

[BDKJMU]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Wrong!
"McClatchy-Marist poll shows Obama tumbling in voters’ eyes

WASHINGTON — If President Barack Obama had piled up political capital with his impressive re-election, it’s largely gone.

His approval rating has dropped to the lowest level in more than a year, with more voters now turning thumbs down on his performance than thumbs up, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll. The measure of how much people like him also has dropped.

He’s still vastly more popular than Congress, particularly congressional Republicans. But in the biggest political clash of the year – over the federal budget and how to curb deficits – voters split 44 percent to 42 percent between preferring Congress or Obama.

At least some of the president’s fall to Earth lies in the fact that voters no longer see him in the context of an election. He has to stand alone in the eyes of voters again and doesn’t benefit from the comparison with Republican rival Mitt Romney.

“You remove the electoral context and post-election celebration, and some of the numbers are returning to the dissatisfaction people had,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the poll.

“Any glow from his re-election is starting to fade,” he said.

The national survey, conducted four months after Obama was re-elected with 51 percent of the popular vote, found 45 percent of voters approving of the way he’s handling his job and 48 percent disapproving.

That was down from a 50 percent approval rating in November and December, and the lowest since November 2011. It also was the first time that more people disapproved of his work than approved since November 2011, when his rating was 43-50.

Obama’s personal popularity also has declined, with 48 percent of voters having favorable impressions of him and 48 percent having unfavorable impressions. That was down from 53-44 in December. It also was the lowest since November 2011, when it was 47-49.

Another factor in the president’s decline is anxiety about the economy and the country.

Just 34 percent of voters think the country’s heading in the right direction, while 62 percent think it’s headed the wrong way. That’s also the worst since November 2011.

Indeed, despite gains in jobs and the stock markets, voters think by 62-34 percent that the country is still in a recession. Just 22 percent think they’ll be better off in the coming year, while 41 percent think they’ll be about the same and 36 percent think they’ll be worse off.

“This may be the downside of him coming out of the box stronger in the second term,” Miringoff said. “People are now looking for him to lead us out of this stalemate, provide more leadership. People see him as a strong figure and in the driver’s seat. During the election, it was him versus Romney. Now it’s him versus people’s expectations for the country.”

Obama still outpaces Congress by a large margin.

Just 26 percent of voters approve of the way that congressional Republicans are doing their job, while 68 percent disapprove. Even Republican voters are wary of their party, with 50 percent of them approving and 44 percent disapproving.

Congressional Democrats fare a little better, with 31 percent approving and 62 percent disapproving.

Voters are divided on whom they like in the great debates over the budget and spending cuts.

By 45-37 percent, they blame congressional Republicans more than Obama for the recent failure to find a better alternative to reducing deficits than the $85 billion in automatic spending cuts now taking effect. Twelve percent said both shared the blame equally.

Yet by 44-42 percent they prefer the Republican approach to curbing the deficit. Seven percent preferred neither way."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/11/1 ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation

Wrong!
"McClatchy-Marist poll shows Obama tumbling in voters’ eyes

WASHINGTON — If President Barack Obama had piled up political capital with his impressive re-election, it’s largely gone.

His approval rating has dropped to the lowest level in more than a year, with more voters now turning thumbs down on his performance than thumbs up, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll. The measure of how much people like him also has dropped.

He’s still vastly more popular than Congress, particularly congressional Republicans. But in the biggest political clash of the year – over the federal budget and how to curb deficits – voters split 44 percent to 42 percent between preferring Congress or Obama.

At least some of the president’s fall to Earth lies in the fact that voters no longer see him in the context of an election. He has to stand alone in the eyes of voters again and doesn’t benefit from the comparison with Republican rival Mitt Romney.

“You remove the electoral context and post-election celebration, and some of the numbers are returning to the dissatisfaction people had,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the poll.

“Any glow from his re-election is starting to fade,” he said.

The national survey, conducted four months after Obama was re-elected with 51 percent of the popular vote, found 45 percent of voters approving of the way he’s handling his job and 48 percent disapproving.

That was down from a 50 percent approval rating in November and December, and the lowest since November 2011. It also was the first time that more people disapproved of his work than approved since November 2011, when his rating was 43-50.

Obama’s personal popularity also has declined, with 48 percent of voters having favorable impressions of him and 48 percent having unfavorable impressions. That was down from 53-44 in December. It also was the lowest since November 2011, when it was 47-49.

Another factor in the president’s decline is anxiety about the economy and the country.

Just 34 percent of voters think the country’s heading in the right direction, while 62 percent think it’s headed the wrong way. That’s also the worst since November 2011.

Indeed, despite gains in jobs and the stock markets, voters think by 62-34 percent that the country is still in a recession. Just 22 percent think they’ll be better off in the coming year, while 41 percent think they’ll be about the same and 36 percent think they’ll be worse off.

“This may be the downside of him coming out of the box stronger in the second term,” Miringoff said. “People are now looking for him to lead us out of this stalemate, provide more leadership. People see him as a strong figure and in the driver’s seat. During the election, it was him versus Romney. Now it’s him versus people’s expectations for the country.”

Obama still outpaces Congress by a large margin.

Just 26 percent of voters approve of the way that congressional Republicans are doing their job, while 68 percent disapprove. Even Republican voters are wary of their party, with 50 percent of them approving and 44 percent disapproving.

Congressional Democrats fare a little better, with 31 percent approving and 62 percent disapproving.

Voters are divided on whom they like in the great debates over the budget and spending cuts.

By 45-37 percent, they blame congressional Republicans more than Obama for the recent failure to find a better alternative to reducing deficits than the $85 billion in automatic spending cuts now taking effect. Twelve percent said both shared the blame equally.

Yet by 44-42 percent they prefer the Republican approach to curbing the deficit. Seven percent preferred neither way."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/03/11/1 ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Metronomic regularity.

[JohnStOnge]

Just to show you guys that I'm not the only one who thinks as I said I think, here is an op ed by a Professor of Psychology at the University of Virginia arguing agianst those who dismiss his field as a "soft" science or not a science at all:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/12 ... s-20120712" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And he shows that he doesn't understand statistical experimentation by stating this:

An often-overlooked advantage of the experimental method is that it can demonstrate what doesn't work.

No. It can't. Well, theoretically it can if it actually has an effect that is opposite of what is desired. You could set up an experiment, for example. to test for whether or not Crestor actually increases cholosterol levels. And if you show Crestor increases cholesterol levels then you've shown it does not decrease them.

But that's clearly not what he's talking about. He clearly does not understand that failing to reject the null hypothesis does not mean you have shown it to be true. Either that or he's being misleading. There are two conclusions you can legimiately state after the completion of a statistical experiment. One is that the null hypothesis of "not the effect we're looking for" has been rejected. In that case the alternative hypothesis...the one you're looking to support...is inferred. The other is that there is not sufficient evidence to reject the null hypothesis. But you can NEVER say, "I've shown the null hypothesis to be true." And that's what he's saying when he says an experiment demonstrates that a method doesn't work.

Yes I understand if you don't believe me since I'm just a regular guy and he's a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia. But I'm right. And that calls into question whether he even really knows a quality statistical experiment when he sees one.

[TheBetterHalf]

Carlin did a great skit on this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYE_unBFxuU[/youtube]

I hadn't seen this skit, very good one indeed.

I'll echo the the thoughts of the rational posters above. PTSD is very real and hard to diagnose. I hope the people that really need the help can get and and fuck the ones that don't need the help and won't stop crying about it. The cry babies are just taking away resources for the ones that really need it.

I'm not even sure where to start with replying to posts, but I will chime in on this quick. I diagnose mental illness on a daily basis and if you know what you are looking for, and are educated in the field of psychology and treatment modalities, PTSD is not difficult to diagnose. With children the sooner you can diagnose and begin treatment then the better your results will be. As far as people seeking treatment you will see that it varies widely. I do see several recurrent cases where clients frequently aren't willing to put forth the effort it takes to work through mental illness and it can be a drain on resources. However, you can't force anyone to change and I don't feel as if they should be pushed aside while they continue to get worse. Sometimes you will have amazing cases where the person genuinely wants to get better and they're willing to put forth the effort that therapy requires and you get to see genuine change. I'd even venture to say that I have one of the best jobs in the world because I get to see true progress being made and how a person can move from a very dark place towards happiness. I'd also say that I get to see the worst in humans as well and at times it can make me hate humanity. This is why it is a difficult profession and not everyone can do it, nor should they want to.

[TheBetterHalf]

Just to show you guys that I'm not the only one who thinks as I said I think, here is an op ed by a Professor of Psychology at the University of Virginia arguing agianst those who dismiss his field as a "soft" science or not a science at all:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/12 ... s-20120712" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And he shows that he doesn't understand statistical experimentation by stating this:

An often-overlooked advantage of the experimental method is that it can demonstrate what doesn't work.

No. It can't. Well, theoretically it can if it actually has an effect that is opposite of what is desired. You could set up an experiment, for example. to test for whether or not Crestor actually increases cholosterol levels. And if you show Crestor increases cholesterol levels then you've shown it does not decrease them.

But that's clearly not what he's talking about. He clearly does not understand that failing to reject the null hypothesis does not mean you have shown it to be true. Either that or he's being misleading. There are two conclusions you can legimiately state after the completion of a statistical experiment. One is that the null hypothesis of "not the effect we're looking for" has been rejected. In that case the alternative hypothesis...the one you're looking to support...is inferred. The other is that there is not sufficient evidence to reject the null hypothesis. But you can NEVER say, "I've shown the null hypothesis to be true." And that's what he's saying when he says an experiment demonstrates that a method doesn't work.

Yes I understand if you don't believe me since I'm just a regular guy and he's a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia. But I'm right. And that calls into question whether he even really knows a quality statistical experiment when he sees one.

I would love to do a psychological profile on you because your narrow minded view astounds me. However, I'm afraid that if I were to speak to you I would either A. harm you or B. make you cry because you would find yourself discussing things you didn't imagine you could and we could unravel way to much emotional damage. I'm an ethical person so I don't think I should actually speak to you because I don't want to actually do damage.

[kalm]

I was once diagnosed with a terminal brain cloud. But it went away.

The cloud or your brain?

You pitch softballs like that and someone has to hit them.

Overly obscure movie reference.

[houndawg]

Obama has punked the conks so badly that even a racist wack-job like Rand Paul can look like he has a clue by comparison.


It must take a lot of work to get past stupid to conk-stupid.

Cool story...and about his sequester faceplant????

Wall Street seems to love it.