rkwittem wrote:
I really don't see either of these two guys getting to the pros under Walt Harris. Sherman never would have moved to CB if Harris had been coach and Baldwin was a nobody WR by college standards (and still is by pro standards). He's an ok player.
Sherman said he would switch positions and go to the bottom of the depth chart. What, did you expect Harbaugh to make a former WR his starting CB or nickel corner right away? If I was a HC and a player said that, I'd do the same. And I bet you would two.
Each of these guys deserves props for making it where they have, but to suggest that Harbaugh has nothing to do with it just because he coaches their rival team in the pros is a pretty ridiculous argument if you ask me.
You don't think demoting your best WR to below a walk-on negatively affects a guy's playing time and thus his stats and NFL stock? If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
That didn't sound much like a recantation, by the way.
It is true. Every Seahawks player is perfect and nothing that ever happened negatively to them was their fault.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
You don't think demoting your best WR to below a walk-on negatively affects a guy's playing time and thus his stats and NFL stock? If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
That didn't sound much like a recantation, by the way.
It is true. Every Seahawks player is perfect and nothing that ever happened negatively to them was their fault.
rkwittem wrote:
I really don't see either of these two guys getting to the pros under Walt Harris. Sherman never would have moved to CB if Harris had been coach and Baldwin was a nobody WR by college standards (and still is by pro standards). He's an ok player.
Sherman said he would switch positions and go to the bottom of the depth chart. What, did you expect Harbaugh to make a former WR his starting CB or nickel corner right away? If I was a HC and a player said that, I'd do the same. And I bet you would two.
Each of these guys deserves props for making it where they have, but to suggest that Harbaugh has nothing to do with it just because he coaches their rival team in the pros is a pretty ridiculous argument if you ask me.
You don't think demoting your best WR to below a walk-on negatively affects a guy's playing time and thus his stats and NFL stock? If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
That didn't sound much like a recantation, by the way.
Because your sources proved nothing. Doug Baldwin's reaction in a YouTube video isn't quite the evidence I was expecting. Same goes for Sherman wishing Harbaugh a happy birthday after Seattle beat the 49ers. He's already proven he loves to talk trash. None of these guys said they hate Jim Harbaugh. They wouldn't be where they are without him. College coaches switch players' positions and depth charts all the time. Just because these two got butthurt about it, worked their way into the NFL, and play for Harbaugh's NFL rival means nothing. I don't think they hate him. They just have big-ass chips on their shoulders.
For the record, you and I both know Richard Sherman wouldn't have been drafted as a WR. He was barely drafted as a corner.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
You don't think demoting your best WR to below a walk-on negatively affects a guy's playing time and thus his stats and NFL stock? If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
That didn't sound much like a recantation, by the way.
Because your sources proved nothing. Doug Baldwin's reaction in a YouTube video isn't quite the evidence I was expecting. Same goes for Sherman wishing Harbaugh a happy birthday after Seattle beat the 49ers. He's already proven he loves to talk trash. None of these guys said they hate Jim Harbaugh. They wouldn't be where they are without him. College coaches switch players' positions and depth charts all the time. Just because these two got butthurt about it, worked their way into the NFL, and play for Harbaugh's NFL rival means nothing. I don't think they hate him. They just have big-ass chips on their shoulders.
For the record, you and I both know Richard Sherman wouldn't have been drafted as a WR. He was barely drafted as a corner.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
You don't think demoting your best WR to below a walk-on negatively affects a guy's playing time and thus his stats and NFL stock? If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
That didn't sound much like a recantation, by the way.
Because your sources proved nothing. Doug Baldwin's reaction in a YouTube video isn't quite the evidence I was expecting. Same goes for Sherman wishing Harbaugh a happy birthday after Seattle beat the 49ers. He's already proven he loves to talk trash. None of these guys said they hate Jim Harbaugh. They wouldn't be where they are without him. College coaches switch players' positions and depth charts all the time. Just because these two got butthurt about it, worked their way into the NFL, and play for Harbaugh's NFL rival means nothing. I don't think they hate him. They just have big-ass chips on their shoulders.
For the record, you and I both know Richard Sherman wouldn't have been drafted as a WR. He was barely drafted as a corner.
I wouldn't bother "debating" with him
EWU > all
Seahawks > all
rkwittem wrote:
Because your sources proved nothing. Doug Baldwin's reaction in a YouTube video isn't quite the evidence I was expecting. Same goes for Sherman wishing Harbaugh a happy birthday after Seattle beat the 49ers. He's already proven he loves to talk trash. None of these guys said they hate Jim Harbaugh. They wouldn't be where they are without him. College coaches switch players' positions and depth charts all the time. Just because these two got butthurt about it, worked their way into the NFL, and play for Harbaugh's NFL rival means nothing. I don't think they hate him. They just have big-ass chips on their shoulders.
For the record, you and I both know Richard Sherman wouldn't have been drafted as a WR. He was barely drafted as a corner.
I wouldn't bother "debating" with him
EWU > all
Seahawks > all
Reality be damned
Who wins....
EWU v. Seattle Seahawks
I got lots of money on EWU.
"What I'm saying is: You might have taken care of your wolf problem, but everyone around town is going to think of you as the crazy son of a bitch who bought land mines to get rid of wolves."
rkwittem wrote:
Because your sources proved nothing. Doug Baldwin's reaction in a YouTube video isn't quite the evidence I was expecting. Same goes for Sherman wishing Harbaugh a happy birthday after Seattle beat the 49ers. He's already proven he loves to talk trash. None of these guys said they hate Jim Harbaugh. They wouldn't be where they are without him. College coaches switch players' positions and depth charts all the time. Just because these two got butthurt about it, worked their way into the NFL, and play for Harbaugh's NFL rival means nothing. I don't think they hate him. They just have big-ass chips on their shoulders.
For the record, you and I both know Richard Sherman wouldn't have been drafted as a WR. He was barely drafted as a corner.
I wouldn't bother "debating" with him
EWU > all
Seahawks > all
Reality be damned
Yeah, what would I know as a diehard fan of the Hawks? Harbaugh blowhards are always right.
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Yeah, what would I know as a diehard fan of the Hawks? Harbaugh blowhards are always right.
See, most Harbaugh "blowhards" will actually admit that he's a pretty big, trash-talking dick.
But I'm okay with that, and I think it makes him more entertaining.
Same with Sherman.
You, on the other hand, are trying to polish the Sherman turd and tell us that there's nothing wrong.
I don't care what the size the chip on his shoulder is, he's still an obnoxious douchebag, regardless of skill.
Nope, SE is always right. Definitely not a mega homer in any way when it comes to his two teams. Sherman = awesome (because he's a Seahawk), Harbaugh = douche
uofmman1122 wrote:See, most Harbaugh "blowhards" will actually admit that he's a pretty big, trash-talking dick.
But I'm okay with that, and I think it makes him more entertaining.
Same with Sherman.
You, on the other hand, are trying to polish the Sherman turd and tell us that there's nothing wrong.
I don't care what the size the chip on his shoulder is, he's still an obnoxious douchebag, regardless of skill.
Nope, SE is always right. Definitely not a mega homer in any way when it comes to his two teams. Sherman = awesome (because he's a Seahawk), Harbaugh = douche
If Harbaugh hadn't demoted Sherm (for opting to get surgery to heal an injury that he played on for four weeks), he likely would've been drafted higher as a WR. Not many players can completely change positions and excel at it in only a year... Harbaugh didn't help Sherm's chances, he hindered them, and Richard overcame them anyway.
