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slycat wrote:They could also hire Lars Ulrich since he did a lot of talking with Napster about Piracy.


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AZGrizFan wrote:Why don't they just man all the ships with ex-SEALS?
Or simply arm the MM...there's no law preventing MM from carrying weapons...only internal company policies.

Keep an armory locked under the Captain's control...and deploy when necessary. Stock at lease one M107 with at least one MM trained in it's use...(trumps an RPG range by 500 meters).

Or...

...keep deploying military resources to handle these situations to the tune of hown many hundreds of millions (if not billions)?
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travelinman67 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Why don't they just man all the ships with ex-SEALS?
Or simply arm the MM...there's no law preventing MM from carrying weapons...only internal company policies.

Keep an armory locked under the Captain's control...and deploy when necessary. Stock at lease one M107 with at least one MM trained in it's use...(trumps an RPG range by 500 meters).

Or...

...keep deploying military resources to handle these situations to the tune of hown many hundreds of millions (if not billions)?



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I think we should round up all the pirates and teach them how to grow vegetables and rice. You know, be productive. :P
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AZGrizFan wrote:Why don't they just man all the ships with ex-SEALS?
I think the owners might be a little nervous about lobbing RPGs around a few million gallons of oil.
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Why don't they just man all the ships with ex-SEALS?
I think the owners might be a little nervous about lobbing RPGs around a few million gallons of oil.
ex-SEAL = RPG? I'm not sure one has to follow the other. I like the idea of having crew members with elite military training on board. They'll know when and how to resist and when not to.

If we can't get ex-SEALS, how about Chuck Norris. ;)
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Well, it boils down to economics. If it's less expensive to change your shipping routes than suffering the losses, or paying for protection then ultimately thats what they will do and vice versa.

The days of the pirates bountyfull bounty are numbered either way.
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CSUBUCDAD wrote:
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Your idea would require a level of "military Intelligence" that we did not posses in 2002 when providing intel on Iraq... in fact so much bad intelligence" was accumulated and disseminated that entire books have been written on our embarrassing lack of knowledge...

yet today (somehow) we know where every Somali warlord camp is... :lol: :roll:
I could find them all in one day using Google Earth. They are the only decent houses(really big houses) surrounded by big walls, in the country.
well it sounds like you should be in charge of our Intel... :lol:
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BUCDAD's a real tough guy.

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BlueHen86 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I think the owners might be a little nervous about lobbing RPGs around a few million gallons of oil.
ex-SEAL = RPG? I'm not sure one has to follow the other. I like the idea of having crew members with elite military training on board. They'll know when and how to resist and when not to.

If we can't get ex-SEALS, how about Chuck Norris. ;)
I meant pirates = RPG and tanker = not hard to hit even if the crew are ex-SEALs.
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houndawg wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
ex-SEAL = RPG? I'm not sure one has to follow the other. I like the idea of having crew members with elite military training on board. They'll know when and how to resist and when not to.

If we can't get ex-SEALS, how about Chuck Norris. ;)
I meant pirates = RPG and tanker = not hard to hit even if the crew are ex-SEALs.

Not all the ships in the area are tankers.
I don't think any of the tankers in the area are sailing under the U.S. Flag.

The ship owners must weigh the risk/reward of shipping in that area of the world. Right now it's probably cheaper for them to pay the ransom than it is resist. That doesn't mean we should stop looking for ways to defeat the pirates.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
I meant pirates = RPG and tanker = not hard to hit even if the crew are ex-SEALs.

Not all the ships in the area are tankers.
I don't think any of the tankers in the area are sailing under the U.S. Flag.

The ship owners must weigh the risk/reward of shipping in that area of the world. Right now it's probably cheaper for them to pay the ransom than it is resist. That doesn't mean we should stop looking for ways to defeat the pirates.
That's what a ship owner was sayig on the news a little earlier.
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houndawg wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:

Not all the ships in the area are tankers.
I don't think any of the tankers in the area are sailing under the U.S. Flag.

The ship owners must weigh the risk/reward of shipping in that area of the world. Right now it's probably cheaper for them to pay the ransom than it is resist. That doesn't mean we should stop looking for ways to defeat the pirates.
That's what a ship owner was sayig on the news a little earlier.
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