How's the global warming out west? Thanks conks.

[D1B]

Too bad Z ain't still out there to suffer.

Conks

[expandspanos]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuVTERHtEg[/youtube]

The "heat wave" has been accompanied by a very strange effect- people say "it looks like there's a fire.. the sunlight looks like its being filtered out".. "The sunlight isn't as bright as it looks usually"

Everyone around here is noticing it- yet the temperature is much higher than it normally is..

Probably just a lot of heavy metals in the upper atmosphere, being heated by facilities such as HAARP, creating a warming trend.. nothing to see here folks.

Al Gore talks about how "the sky wouldn't be blue, like it is now anymore" when the Global Warming nut-cases get their way to spray our sky with airplanes 24/7 (something they're already doing now):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMZ1sf5U8I[/youtube]

[93henfan]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuVTERHtEg[/youtube]

The "heat wave" has been accompanied by a very strange effect- people say "it looks like there's a fire.. the sunlight looks like its being filtered out".. "The sunlight isn't as bright as it looks usually"

Everyone around here is noticing it- yet the temperature is much higher than it normally is..

Probably just a lot of heavy metals in the upper atmosphere, being heated by facilities such as HAARP, creating a warming trend.. nothing to see here folks.

Al Gore talks about how "the sky wouldn't be blue, like it is now anymore" when the Global Warming nut-cases get their way to spray our sky with airplanes 24/7 (something they're already doing now):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMZ1sf5U8I[/youtube]

This

is

awesome.

[Baldy]

Too bad Z ain't still out there to suffer.

Conks

Just after we just had the coldest Spring in US history.

[kalm]

We've had a fairly normal year, temperature wise.

That being said:

A new study has just come out that looked at nearly 12,000 professional scientific journal papers about global warming, and found that—of the papers expressing a stance on global warming—97 percent endorse both the reality of global warming and the fact that humans are causing it.

Ninety-seven percent. That’s what we call a “consensus”, folks.

The study was clever. They found the papers by searching on the terms “global warming” and “global climate change”. Once they compiled the list of papers, they looked at the abstracts (a short summary of the results scientists put at the top of their papers) to see if the paper itself talked about the causes of global warming. About 4000 of the papers did so. That may seem like a smallish fraction, but most papers analyze measurements and climate effects, not the cause of global warming (like most astronomical papers on, say, galaxies don’t discuss how galaxies form, but focus on their structure, content, and so on—also, because there is such a strong consensus on warming, scientists don't generally feel the need to state the obvious in their abstracts).

Examining those 4000 papers, the study authors determined that 97.1 percent of them endorsed the consensus that humans are causing global warming. And here’s where they did the clever bit: They contacted 8500 authors of the papers in question and asked them to self-rate those papers. They got responses from 1200 authors (a nice fraction), and, using the same criteria as the study, it turns out 97.2 percent of the authors endorse the consensus.

That’s a remarkable agreement! And it’s no surprise. There have been several studies showing almost exactly the same thing. This new one is interesting due to the methodology, and the fact that it’s so robust.

So, the bottom line: The vast majority of scientists who conduct climatological research and publish their results in professional journals say humans are the cause of global warming. There is essentially no controversy among actual climate scientists about this.

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Like I've been saying for years, there's really not much of a controversy regarding whether the earth has been warming and whether humans play a role. There may be a few skeptics and right wing think tank/fossil fuel industry scientists that dispute this, but there's not a single scientific organization that does.

[ASUG8]

I like how Al want us to use his internet to research things. What self promotion.

[D1B]

Fucking dumb ass conks.

[Baldy]

Like I've been saying for years, there's really not much of a controversy regarding whether the earth has been warming and whether humans play a role. There may be a few skeptics and right wing think tank/fossil fuel industry scientists that dispute this, but there's not a single scientific organization that does.

...and that differs from left wing think tank/government funded scientists how?

I love how these so-called "climatologists" can study 120 years of an objects 4,500,000,000 year history and have all the answers.

[kalm]

Like I've been saying for years, there's really not much of a controversy regarding whether the earth has been warming and whether humans play a role. There may be a few skeptics and right wing think tank/fossil fuel industry scientists that dispute this, but there's not a single scientific organization that does.

...and that differs from left wing think tank/government funded scientists how?

I love how these so-called "climatologists" can study 120 years of an objects 4,500,000,000 year history and have all the answers.

Oh come on Baldy, liberals neither know how to or care about making money.

Duh.

Spoiler: show

[houndawg]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuVTERHtEg[/youtube]

The "heat wave" has been accompanied by a very strange effect- people say "it looks like there's a fire.. the sunlight looks like its being filtered out".. "The sunlight isn't as bright as it looks usually"

Everyone around here is noticing it- yet the temperature is much higher than it normally is..

Probably just a lot of heavy metals in the upper atmosphere, being heated by facilities such as HAARP, creating a warming trend.. nothing to see here folks.

Al Gore talks about how "the sky wouldn't be blue, like it is now anymore" when the Global Warming nut-cases get their way to spray our sky with airplanes 24/7 (something they're already doing now):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMZ1sf5U8I[/youtube]

Raelly? I haven't heard anybody say those things.

[Ibanez]

Too bad Z ain't still out there to suffer.

Conks

Just after we just had the coldest Spring in US history.

We had a nice spring here as well. June was mild compared to normal.

[Pwns]

On another note, much of the southeast seems to have recovered from the drought and then some. I thought we needed to get used to drought for the foreseeable future because it had to do with changing climate?

Oh well, have to make people forget about failed predictions about worsening droughts and increasingly worse hurricane seasons and move on to talking about the next weather anomaly du jour to try and keep people scared.

Maybe we can change the buzz word again from "climate change" to "climate destabilization" if it ever stops working.

[kalm]

On another note, much of the southeast seems to have recovered from the drought and then some. I thought we needed to get used to drought for the foreseeable future because it had to do with changing climate?

Oh well, have to make people forget about failed predictions about worsening droughts and increasingly worse hurricane seasons and move on to talking about the next weather anomaly du jour to try and keep people scared.

Maybe we can change the buzz word again from "climate change" to "climate destabilization" if it ever stops working.

Isn't destabilization a predicted part of global warming? Increased water vapor in the air which can lead to increased and stronger storm activity and in some cases a temporary cooling affect.

[GannonFan]

On another note, much of the southeast seems to have recovered from the drought and then some. I thought we needed to get used to drought for the foreseeable future because it had to do with changing climate?

Oh well, have to make people forget about failed predictions about worsening droughts and increasingly worse hurricane seasons and move on to talking about the next weather anomaly du jour to try and keep people scared.

Maybe we can change the buzz word again from "climate change" to "climate destabilization" if it ever stops working.

Isn't destabilization a predicted part of global warming? Increased water vapor in the air which can lead to increased and stronger storm activity and in some cases a temporary cooling affect.

And that's part of the problem with the whole PR campaign about climate change and the heap of politics that have gone along with it - we've now gotten to the point that any weather, whether it be warm or cold or stormy or calm, is claimed to be part of the climate change. So basically, any type of weather can be considered part of climate change. Fundamentally, that's correct, but it really comes across as a cop-out when trying to advocate draconian policies to take up to combat climate change.

I don't think there's any real doubt that the climate is changing, nor that humans are playing a part in it (certainly not all of it, but a part, yes). With that said, while climate change supporters will claim that their opponents ignore science, climate change supporters also tend to ignore science when they claim that certain policies need to be implemented so that we reverse or avoid the impacts of climate change. The fact is, we're not going to be able to reverse what's going on, at least not in the next 40 years (by 2050 as most targets are geared towards). Heck, even the President's current trip to Africa, after trying to take a domestic stance against additional carbon emissions, is talking about providing far more Africans with electricity than have it today - that's not going to happen in a carbon-neutral method, so clearly we, as a species, are going to be producing more and more carbon output as time goes on.

We're not going to reverse climate change - barring some huge, Malthusian reduction in world population, it ain't gonna happen. What we can do is determine how to deal with the changes and adapt.

[AZGrizFan]

We're not going to reverse climate change - barring some huge, Malthusian reduction in world population, it ain't gonna happen.

Read Dan Brown's new book.

[GannonFan]

We're not going to reverse climate change - barring some huge, Malthusian reduction in world population, it ain't gonna happen.

Read Dan Brown's new book.

I actually got it for Father's Day - will beach reading in a couple of weeks.

[AZGrizFan]

Read Dan Brown's new book.

I actually got it for Father's Day - will beach reading in a couple of weeks.

I don't want to spoil anything, but that's the gist.

[citdog]

I arrived in Missoula over the weekend and am wondering just what in the hell all the fuss is about. It feels like SPRING in the Confederacy here and all the folks are bitching about the "oppressive heat". Well all the 87 year old flashlight shining, jordan wearing, rainbow family gathering rejects are anyway.

[grizzaholic]

I arrived in Missoula over the weekend and am wondering just what in the hell all the fuss is about. It feels like SPRING in the Confederacy here and all the folks are bitching about the "oppressive heat". Well all the 87 year old flashlight shining, jordan wearing, rainbow family gathering rejects are anyway.

It is hotter than shit. Fuck going outside.

[93henfan]

If weather.com's forecast is correct, Missoula is supposed to get to 97 today with 43% humidity. That's pretty darn hot.

But isn't this like a once-in-20-years sort of spike for MT? That's sort of a normal day in July on the east coast, except our humidity would be double.

[Ibanez]

If weather.com's forecast is correct, Missoula is supposed to get to 97 today with 43% humidity. That's pretty darn hot.

But isn't this like a once-in-20-years sort of spike for MT? That's sort of a normal day in July on the east coast, except our humidity would be double.

So what you're saying is that the Montana boys are a bunch of mary's that couldn't handle the EC(b), right? If so, then I agree.





I'd kill for 43% humidity.

[Grizalltheway]

If weather.com's forecast is correct, Missoula is supposed to get to 97 today with 43% humidity. That's pretty darn hot.

But isn't this like a once-in-20-years sort of spike for MT? That's sort of a normal day in July on the east coast, except our humidity would be double.

So what you're saying is that the Montana boys are a bunch of mary's that couldn't handle the EC(b), right? If so, then I agree.





I'd kill for 43% humidity.

You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

@ 93: it usually hits triple digits out in eastern Montana every summer, but it's in a little less common in the western part of the state.

[Ibanez]

So what you're saying is that the Montana boys are a bunch of mary's that couldn't handle the EC(b), right? If so, then I agree.





I'd kill for 43% humidity.

You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

@ 93: it usually hits triple digits out in eastern Montana every summer, but it's in a little less common in the western part of the state.

What's the humidity? I've done triple digits in Phoenix and that was hot, but not as intolerable as the heat and humidity here.


Btw, just looked at Weather.com. It shows Missoula being 88 degrees but feels like 86. 88 with 25% humidity, that's lovely. That's springtime here. But that is to be expected. We're closer to the equator than you. It's been raining everyday for 1.5 weeks here and the temp is 84 degrees (feels like 91) with 75% humidity.

[AZGrizFan]

You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

He wouldn't last 10 minutes INDOORS on the Highline in January.

[Ibanez]

You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

He wouldn't last 10 minutes INDOORS on the Highline in January.

Anyone can last 10 minutes on a rooftop in New York City. Hell, I did it in January when the temp was 12 degrees. I lasted longer outside in the 115 degree Phoenix weather than those native pussies did. That's my favorite story, these guys from Arizona come out to Charleston and we warned them that it was getting hot, about 90 degrees. "Oh, we can handle it. We get into the 100's. back home" Those guys were bitching within 45 minutes

Spoiler: show

I know you're talking about the Border of 'Merica and our Hat.